When can we expect to see Crysis (2007) level of visuals ?

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cmdrdredd

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Mirrors Edge not a full game? um okay and MOST people found the Batman games to be great. how many great games used Cryengine? lol

ONE! lol

Nah I didn't beat mirror's edge. I did play it and never got into it. Didn't like it at all.

Batman on the other hand...absolutely one of the best action games of the last 2 years. Also somewhat of a sandbox game with Arkham City.
 

Gordon Freemen

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Mirrors Edge not a full game? um okay and MOST people found the Batman games to be great. how many great games used Cryengine? lol
First I will stop you right there because nobody said anything about Cryengine well at leased I didn't and second most people find many stupid things to be great like Mcdonalds and PS3 and Apple product. Like I said Batman Arkham City won button masher of the year and I could play it with my eyes closed literally I tried it and I still won and the graphics were decent but nothing special albeit buggy LOL.
 

cmdrdredd

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First I will stop you right there because nobody said anything about Cryengine well at leased I didn't and second most people find many stupid things to be great like Mcdonalds and PS3 and Apple product. Like I said Batman Arkham City won button masher of the year and I could play it with my eyes closed literally I tried it and I still won and the graphics were decent but nothing special albeit buggy LOL.

Wait what? What's wrong with a PS3 and what's wrong with Apple products?

If you go into politics to explain either, you failed.

But don't even answer...I know what you're gonna say...the same generic answer as everyone else who is a hater "greedy corporation".

What you said about Batman...ridiculous.
 

2is

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First I will stop you right there because nobody said anything about Cryengine well at leased I didn't and second most people find many stupid things to be great like Mcdonalds and PS3 and Apple product. Like I said Batman Arkham City won button masher of the year and I could play it with my eyes closed literally I tried it and I still won and the graphics were decent but nothing special albeit buggy LOL.

"you're" going to stop him right there? Lol he actually stopped there on his own. I'd like to know what's wrong with PS3 and Apple products too. Then again, you think BD is a good processor so.... Yeah. :rolleyes:
 

Gordon Freemen

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Wait what? What's wrong with a PS3 and what's wrong with Apple products?

If you go into politics to explain either, you failed.

But don't even answer...I know what you're gonna say...the same generic answer as everyone else who is a hater "greedy corporation".

What you said about Batman...ridiculous.
Yes Corps are greedy but you said that not me LOL none the less it is very very true but not the reasoning which I would suggest is the neurosis behind people being attracted to JUNK product. Hundereds of Millions of people are addicted to Crack "Rock" Cocaine they tell me it's great and wonder why I think something is wrong with it LOL.
 

Gordon Freemen

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"you're" going to stop him right there? Lol he actually stopped there on his own. I'd like to know what's wrong with PS3 and Apple products too. Then again, you think BD is a good processor so.... Yeah. :rolleyes:
BD is all RIGGHT but I am on a Phenom II x4 B55 @ 3.5Ghz and it does everything I need/want to with no problems or concerns so an 8150 would be an astronomical leap in performance for me when I OC it albeit a leap I don't need/want at this point in time. If you haven't yet figured out whats up and wrong with Apple and Console gaming at leased in a general sense then I suggest you just go join the Army LOL. All the best :)
 

cmdrdredd

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Yes Corps are greedy but you said that not me LOL none the less it is very very true but not the reasoning which I would suggest is the neurosis behind people being attracted to JUNK product. Hundereds of Millions of people are addicted to Crack "Rock" Cocaine they tell me it's great and wonder why I think something is wrong with it LOL.

I'm not even going to bother...

Compare the PS3 or the iPad to crack? I own an iPad because I wanted a tablet and it is still the most supported one out there with the most software and apps. It doubles as my e-reader. Apple has products that appeal to some people. I like the iPad but hate the iPhone. You are allowed to do that.

You also just dissed the military...what is wrong with you? Are you just trying to up your post count?

Way Way off topic anyway.
 

2is

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BD is all RIGGHT but I am on a Phenom II x4 B55 @ 3.5Ghz and it does everything I need/want to with no problems or concerns so an 8150 would be an astronomical leap in performance for me when I OC it albeit a leap I don't need/want at this point in time. If you haven't yet figured out whats up and wrong with Apple and Console gaming at leased in a general sense then I suggest you just go join the Army LOL. All the best :)

I suggest you come up with arguments that make some sense. As it stands now, the only person that might know what you're trying to say is you, and even that's highly questionable.
 

Jaydip

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Too much Beer perhaps :p or a long day grinding worthless junk in Diablo 3 like me :D
 

Gordon Freemen

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I suggest you come up with arguments that make some sense. As it stands now, the only person that might know what you're trying to say is you, and even that's highly questionable.
Don't be sore cause it's over your head. Read a book it might help you comprehend whats taking place everyday around us all in the real world "AFK" LOL :)
 
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Gordon Freemen

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Too much Beer perhaps :p or a long day grinding worthless junk in Diablo 3 like me :D
D3 sucks IMHO and although I can understand and respect what D2 brought to the table & accomplished back in it's day I for one did not get into PC gaming and tech until 06 so D2 was quite a bit before my time as a PC gamer although I would have loved it back in it's prime day. D2 was great back in the day cause Internet was suckey and expensive but D3 cannot hide under the coattails of an era passed and be acceptable in today's day and age IMHO.
 

2is

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Don't be sore cause it's over your head. Read a book it might help you comprehend whats taking place everyday around us all in the real world "AFK" LOL :)

Except I'm not the only one calling you out. Guess that means your the one with the problem. Though I'm sure you already knew that.
 

Gordon Freemen

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Except I'm not the only one calling you out. Guess that means your the one with the problem. Though I'm sure you already knew that.
Oh you must be referring to the Mantra currently being sang around here about "7850" in that case I don't feel so bad LOL !
 

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@ 1600P you probably wont notice Uber sampling because what it does is add a very EXTREME high quality level of AA so being that you use 1600P the image lines are already so sharp and defined it really can't get a whole lot better than that. With Uber sampling on in the Witcher 2 it looks absolutely stunning @ 1050P or 1080P but framerate takes a dive so most people play with it off.
Ok. It seems it is definitely a form of super-sampling AA. (highly likely to be OGSSAA, too.)

From GeForce.com - Witcher 2 tweak guide.
http://www.geforce.com/Optimize/Guides/witcher-2-tweak-guide/#9
Ubersampling - This setting controls a special mode which, when enabled, improves image quality through the performance-draining technique of rendering the same scene multiple times before displaying the final result. The practical effect of this Supersampling technique is that textures become clearer, and jagged lines are smoothed out further. However it requires both a high-end CPU and a high-end GPU to obtain remotely playable framerates.

Gordon Freemen,

You're right. I played around with Ubersampling on vs off.

The difference is just not easily noticeable at 2560x1600.

During gameplay, I could tell whether it's on or off by frame rate counter, not by image quality.
For this, I had to disable AfterBurner framerate limiter. Otherwise, I couldn't tell the difference as framerate would be always locked at 60fps.

With off, fps usually hovers around 150~160. With Ubersampling on, it hovers around 70~80 with occasional drop below 60 (into 50s).

These are in lossless PNG. Files sizes are about 7~8MB each.

#1 Ubersampling OFF
http://i.minus.com/i5IB438Ci4idv.png

#1 Ubersampling ON
http://i.minus.com/i0Hj5uoPe5caW.png

#2 Ubersampling OFF
http://i.minus.com/iEyhpDQA4MqF2.png

#2 Ubersampling ON
http://i.minus.com/iGi9bNW4Ol9mW.png

#3 Ubersampling OFF
http://i.minus.com/iHWZewaeTJvE2.png

#3 Ubersampling ON
http://i.minus.com/iGDJLvrPFyE5P.png
 

2is

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From those last two shots it looks like Upersampling gives more realistic lighting. The leaves on the tree are a more natural looking green vs looking like they are radioactive in the first pic. Unless the game has day/night cycles and they were taken at different times of day.
 

Dankk

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From those last two shots it looks like Upersampling gives more realistic lighting. The leaves on the tree are a more natural looking green vs looking like they are radioactive in the first pic. Unless the game has day/night cycles and they were taken at different times of day.

The game does have day/night cycles.
 

PowerK

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Yes, the game has day/night cycles. But those screenshots were taken at the same time of day.

I don't quite understand the lighting difference mentioned, though. *If* Ubersampling is just a form of super-sampling AA, there should not be any differences in terms of lighting. Am I missing something here ?
 

Red Hawk

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yeah Mirrors Edge, Batman Arkham Asylum, Batman Arkham City, Bioshock 1 and 2 were all just crappy games...

Don't forget the Mass Effect trilogy, Borderlands, and Bulletstorm.

BD is all RIGGHT but I am on a Phenom II x4 B55 @ 3.5Ghz and it does everything I need/want to with no problems or concerns so an 8150 would be an astronomical leap in performance for me when I OC it albeit a leap I don't need/want at this point in time. If you haven't yet figured out whats up and wrong with Apple and Console gaming at leased in a general sense then I suggest you just go join the Army LOL. All the best :)

Uh, BD is worse than Phenom II. Anyways, I really don't know what you're on about, and I doubt you even know yourself.
 

Gordon Freemen

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Don't forget the Mass Effect trilogy, Borderlands, and Bulletstorm.



Uh, BD is worse than Phenom II. Anyways, I really don't know what you're on about, and I doubt you even know yourself.
Actually you might want to do some research instead of following noobs that solely rely on hype and propaganda to fuel there fanboy antics instead of the facts so to you I say LINKS PLEASE !
 

2is

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Actually you might want to do some research instead of following noobs that solely rely on hype and propaganda to fuel there fanboy antics instead of the facts so to you I say LINKS PLEASE !

He's actually basing it in reviews, your basing your opinion on overclock ability. I'd say he's more in the right than you are. For most games, stock vs stock or clock vs clock he is correct.
 

toyota

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Actually you might want to do some research instead of following noobs that solely rely on hype and propaganda to fuel there fanboy antics instead of the facts so to you I say LINKS PLEASE !
you dont want facts though. it has been mentioned in many reviews that Bulldozer is slower clock for clock than Phenom 2 which hurts it in gaming.

AMD FX processors are definitely not cut for gaming. They not only get completely destroyed by Intel’s Core i5 and Core i3, but also yield even to their own predecessors from the Phenom II family.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8120-6100-4100_6.html#sect0
 

Gordon Freemen

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you dont want facts though. it has been mentioned in many reviews that Bulldozer is slower clock for clock than Phenom 2 which hurts it in gaming.

AMD FX processors are definitely not cut for gaming. They not only get completely destroyed by Intel’s Core i5 and Core i3, but also yield even to their own predecessors from the Phenom II family.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8120-6100-4100_6.html#sect0
Of course them reviews are going to look bad on BD when they OC an i7 2600K to 5Ghz and leave the BD 8120 @ stock and claim it's a fair and legit comparo LOL.
 

2is

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Of course them reviews are going to look bad on BD when they OC an i7 2600K to 5Ghz and leave the BD 8120 @ stock and claim it's a fair and legit comparo LOL.

Except they weren't OCd. Now you're just trolling. Not worth damaging your credibility further to defend a processor. It's crap, the sooner you realize this the better off you'll be.