Who cares Phenom II games just fine so does BD in fact the BD 4170 is at the top of the pile for "game ability" according to "Tom's Hardware" gaming CPU hierarchy chart may 2012 - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html Now this would be an upgrade from my X4 955 which play any game just fine maxed out on a good GPU.
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so now its "who cares" when you are wrong? an since you like toms how about this...http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-10.html
With the sub-$100 Pentiums performing so well, Intel's $125 Core i3-2100 easily beats more expensive Phenom II and FX models. And the $190 Core i5-2400 dominates the sub-$200 landscape without challenge, really. As such, we're almost-shockingly left without an AMD CPU to recommend at any price point.
While it’s true that AMD’s multiplier-unlocked models appeal to tweak-happy power users, the company's overclocked game performance manages to either hang close to or fall just behind Intel's stock Core i3-2100. Pumping up voltage, multipliers, and, consequently, power usage seems like a futile exercise just to keep pace with an efficient $125 budget-oriented chip running at its default settings.
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People who dont want a crap processor care. That group may not include you, but you did ask, so now you know. 
How am I wrong BD is a decent proc for many uses including one being gaming lets see how it compare to i5 2500K in a gaming scenario -
Now we all know that typical there are a few games where Intel will do better but that has more to do with developer relations than anything is most cases but let us take a look and see some typical scaling as observed in a chart format and Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4dvLJQP4
So as we can see the scaling between Intel and AMD is fairly similar and nothing to get all excited about in a typical gaming scenario.
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you said you wanted links showing BD could be worse than Phenom 2 in gaming and got one. now you change your arguments and even claim the Intel cpus were oced. I have never seen one person look so foolish in such a short amount of time. you are stubborn and can never admit when you are wrong about anything so you simply try to twist the conversation into something else.
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Fine, one Bulldozer processor (that wasn't released until way after Bulldozer's main launch) edges out Phenom IIs in game performance thanks to its higher clock speed (which the 8150/8120 lacks). But with the 4170 you're giving up multithreaded performance by going down to 4 threads/2 Bulldozer modules, losing one of Bulldozer's few strong points. And it should be pointed out that the 4170 is still lower than any mainstream Intel Sandy Bridge processor.
You've done a fine job derailing this thread, btw.
Phenom II X4 955 is far from crap friend
Except we are talking about BD which is crap. What Toyota said above pretty much nails how your behaving. I don't understand this blind allegiance and never will. I ran AMD in the socket 939 days because they had the better CPU. Started out with a single core 3700+ and eventually upgraded to an X2 4400+ absolutely loved both processors. When it was time for a new build it was right around the time the original phenoms were about to be released. I waited for them, they turned out to be shit and so I went Intel with a Q6600, because it was the better processor. I'm just glad I don't get the level of excitement you get when there's a sub-par product out there.
So why are you still recommending BD? I know you aren't foolish enough to claim BD is on par with Intels offerings.
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That's quite true....however....Reality and Unbiased performance numbers do.:whiste:
More ^ "False Dichotomy & Rhetoric" sorry for raining on your Intel Mantra pal LOL.
Its cheaper. At least you got that part right. Too bad the price difference is pretty negligible.
Your value driven, I understand. Im sure if AMD pulls off a miracle and kicks Intels ass with PD and decides to charge a little more you'd move to intel for your next build. Since you know, you're all about cost.
Your value driven, I understand. Im sure if AMD pulls off a miracle and kicks Intels ass with PD and decides to charge a little more you'd move to intel for your next build. Since you know, you're all about cost.
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As far as gaming is concerned unless you are after the most 3DMARKs AMD is great LOL me I just play the games and have never yet needed an Intel to run any game Flawlessly.
I am not as you say "Value driven" it was just at the time I needed a CPU I had money for a solid x4 955 for I like to eat very nice food and spend my money on other things as well plus there's also life that kinda get's in the way that's always kinda a reality bummer LOL.
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Way to not at all address the post you quoted. It's ok, we all understand.
Playing ME2 today for the first time and it's decent looking for an old Unreal engine 3 game and all plus I loved the first game and I am liking this second one as well so far 4hrs into it and never dropped below 60fps maxed out 1680x1050 I love optimized graphical engines.
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