When can we expect to see Crysis (2007) level of visuals ?

[MTDEW]

of course Crysis 1 had that too but its a much older game. I was just saying that Crysis 2 even in DX11 and with "hi res texture pack" has some ass ugly textures. overall the game looks mediocre coming from a company that used to push the visuals. there were very few spots that I ever found myself impressed with the graphics.

What people seem to miss is that Crysis 1 and Skyrim have a lot longer draw distance than games like Crysis 2 and the Witcher 2.
The latter two games do have great graphics/textures , but they sacrifice draw distance to achieve that feat.
Also, Crysis 1 had a great draw distance and excellent cpu physics.

Now i'm not stating one is better than the other, its just we ARE NOT comparing APPLES to APPLES when we compare what these games achieve graphic wise.

The long story short, is consoles is where the money is, and their limited ram only allows so much draw distance, so modern games are optimized for those limitations first.

And who can blame any game developer for trying to be profitable?

I mean i don't like it as much as any "High End" pc-gamer, buts it is reality and it is better than those games not being made at all.

 

[Gordon Freemen]

I have no issues with origin. I don't see the problem. I load it up, click my game, my game starts. OMG...the horror.

Don't believe everything you read on the forums littered with people who haven't defragged their HDD in 3 years and have 1GB of memory with 10 programs open and origin crashes.

It's almost like people just hate origin because EA made it. Like it or not every game published by EA will use it. It works and that's all I care about. Steam is more established though so there's a lot more content there.

It's not so much that EA is such a terrible service it's more or less I don't want to support there business philosophy and practices and I like a free and open Internet and I don't want my HDDs mined thanx very much so I choose to practice consumer advocacy instead.

 

[Grooveriding]

Crysis 2 really was nothing special. It looked like a console port with some visual upgrades on the PC. So it has DX11, giving it POM and tessellation, which Crysis/Warhead does not. What does that even mean though ?

To me it translated to a hefty performance hit for nothing all that great. The game by no means looks bad, but Crysis/Warhead taken as a whole look better than the whole that is Crysis 2. About the only thing I liked in Crysis 2 was the water and the lighting at times, at other times the lighting was just overdone console style bloom in C2 though.

The only game I've seen that holds a candle to C1/Warhead is BF3. The lighting in BF3 is better and there are portions of the single player campaign that look amazing. BF3 certainly does urban, city and vehicles better than Crysis as well.

In terms of outdoors and vast landscapes, Crysis still takes it. Even the stock game on Very High is being governed via the ini files. You can open that engine up even more with tweaks and texture mods and it just looks amazing. It's important to remember that Cryengine 2 was designed solely for the PC platform. Cryengine 3 is designed to create a game that can be easily put on a 360, PS3 and a PC. I think we could of seen a lot more out of Crysis 2 if Cryengine 3 was made just for the PC.

 

[2is]

At that setting the game will be a slideshow unless you're running a trio of 7970s/680s or something.


A few of the indoor areas had nice lighting, but most of it was bland, especially the snowing outdoor areas. I was never impressed with the visuals in that game.

Other games that have comparable outdoor visuals to Crysis: Serious Sam 3, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Bulletstorm (background city landscape areas), Stalker 3 during the day, Aliens vs Predator 3.

I dont think Metro 2033 looks very good either. High GPU requirements but doesn't seem justified at all.

 

[Lonbjerg]

I dont think Metro 2033 looks very good either. High GPU requirements but doesn't seem justified at all.

Some people still confuse the visual theme/art with I.Q....*sigh*

 

[toyota]

I dont think Metro 2033 looks very good either. High GPU requirements but doesn't seem justified at all.

besides a few blurry textures here and there, Metro 2033 is very good looking game.

 

[cmdrdredd]

It's not so much that EA is such a terrible service it's more or less I don't want to support there business philosophy and practices and I like a free and open Internet and I don't want my HDDs mined thanx very much so I choose to practice consumer advocacy instead.

Hdd mined??? Lol

I know it collects info on your installed games and such but its all anonymous. I have never seen it put the way you did though lol. I guess if it bothers you then don't play BF3. It's about all you can do.

 

[2is]

besides a few blurry textures here and there, Metro 2033 is very good looking game.

I'm just not as impressed by it as you are.

 

[DrBoss]

OP / Everyone... have you seen the Watch Dogs gameplay trailer from E3?
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-watch-dogs/731081
Them's some nice graphics

 

[toyota]

OP / Everyone... have you seen the Watch Dogs gameplay trailer from E3?
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-watch-dogs/731081
Thems some nice graphics

that looked weird. sometimes it had stunning graphics and then it looked washed out and low res.

 

[DrBoss]

that looked weird. sometimes it had stunning graphics and then it looked washed out and low res.

true, but it is a tech demo for a game that doesn't have a release date (perhaps they will polish the handful of low res textures).

i thought the shootout scene at the end was insane!

 

[Insomniator]

This thread makes me want to upgrade my GTX470

 

[Gordon Freemen]

Hdd mined??? Lol

I know it collects info on your installed games and such but its all anonymous. I have never seen it put the way you did though lol. I guess if it bothers you then don't play BF3. It's about all you can do.

EA games mines your HDDs for any and all personal information they can use then they sell it to the highest bidders on the open market. When you signed up for an online BF3 account and DLed Origins you AGREED by cliking yes on the EULA agreement to let EA sell any of your personal info that is stored on your HDD's not unlike what Facebook does when you post messages but to a more creepy and severe degree than Facbook. EA games is also pro SOPA read - http://www.complex.com/video-games/2012/01/ea-refuses-to-oppose-sopa-despite-over-130000-that-do

 

[StinkyPinky]

What's amazing about Skyrim is how small the install it. 7 gigs with the high res texture pack, and that's for a huge world.

And then a game like Diablo is 9 gigs and you wonder wtf. It must be those cut scenes.

 

[cmdrdredd]

EA games mines your HDDs for any and all personal information they can use then they sell it to the highest bidders on the open market. When you signed up for an online BF3 account and DLed Origins you AGREED by cliking yes on the EULA agreement to let EA sell any of your personal info that is stored on your HDD's not unlike what Facebook does when you post messages but to a more creepy and severe degree than Facbook. EA games is also pro SOPA read - http://www.complex.com/video-games/2012/01/ea-refuses-to-oppose-sopa-despite-over-130000-that-do

So what do you want me to do? Stop playing the best multiplayer shooter on the planet because you think EA might know i just installed max payne 3 and watched star wars yesterday?

I don't wear a tinfoil hat, and I don't believe the government covered up roswell either. I keep politics out of my video gaming habit if the game is worth it.

 

[PowerK]

Just bought Witcher 2 from GOG. Thanks to 40% sale and DRM free.
Thanks for the recommendations guys!

Ok. Played Witcher 2 last night for a few hours.
Indeed, this is one beautiful game. Pure eye candy.

I ran everything maxed out @ 2560x1600. With ubersampling enabled, frame rates were essentially halved, it seemed. However, with occasional drop below 60fps, the game was still smoothly playable.

I've toggled ubersampling on and off and I had hard time noticing any differences. Not sure what ubersampling exactly does.

Also this game gave me the highest record on GPU temp so far (~95C) wow.
GPU scaling seems to be excellent. Utilization on all 4 GPUs were always hovering around 95~99%.

 

[Gordon Freemen]

So what do you want me to do? Stop playing the best multiplayer shooter on the planet because you think EA might know i just installed max payne 3 and watched star wars yesterday?

I don't wear a tinfoil hat, and I don't believe the government covered up roswell either. I keep politics out of my video gaming habit if the game is worth it.

You should know and understand what products you are supporting directly and indirectly but I don't understand where you get all conspiracy scary about EA wanting to maximize profit LOL.

 

[Gordon Freemen]

Ok. Played Witcher 2 last night for a few hours.
Indeed, this is one beautiful game. Pure eye candy.

I ran everything maxed out @ 2560x1600. With ubersampling enabled, frame rates were essentially halved, it seemed. However, with occasional drop below 60fps, the game was still smoothly playable.

I've toggled ubersampling on and off and I had hard time noticing any differences. Not sure what ubersampling exactly does.

Also this game gave me the highest record on GPU temp so far (~95C) wow.
GPU scaling seems to be excellent. Utilization on all 4 GPUs were always hovering around 95~99%.

@ 1600P you probably wont notice Uber sampling because what it does is add a very EXTREME high quality level of AA so being that you use 1600P the image lines are already so sharp and defined it really can't get a whole lot better than that. With Uber sampling on in the Witcher 2 it looks absolutely stunning @ 1050P or 1080P but framerate takes a dive so most people play with it off.

 

[Bman123]

Real life has crappy graphics LOL !

Awesome post!!!

 

[PowerK]

@ 1600P you probably wont notice Uber sampling because what it does is add a very EXTREME high quality level of AA so being that you use 1600P the image lines are already so sharp and defined it really can't get a whole lot better than that. With Uber sampling on in the Witcher 2 it looks absolutely stunning @ 1050P or 1080P but framerate takes a dive so most people play with it off.

Interesting.

Coincidentally, I just saw Ubersampling on vs off comparison screenshot posted at Rage3D. http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost.php?p=1336923118&postcount=3383
The difference in those screenshots are very noticeable. However, they're at 1680x1050 resolution. I asked him a few minutes ago whether 1680x1050 was the resolution he played at for those screenshot comparison.

 

[PowerK]

According to Witcher 2 ubersampling description, (from GOG forum)

"Ubersampling: high quality rendering mode under which whole scenes are rendered multiple times to provide the best possible textures, object details and anti-aliasing (superior to anti-alias and anisotropy even on the highest settings). Use with caution, only on top-end computers (best possible in terms of both GPU and CPU)."

It says.. "whole scenes are rendered multiple times....."

I wonder what it exactly means. If it means...rendered in multiple factor of (read higher) resolutions, it sounds just like super-sampling AA, right ?

If it's not what it means.. then I don't understand what it exactly mean by "whole scenes are rendered multiple times....."

 

[borisvodofsky]

According to Witcher 2 ubersampling description, (from GOG forum)



It says.. "whole scenes are rendered multiple times....."

I wonder what it exactly means. If it means...rendered in multiple factor of (read higher) resolutions, it sounds just like super-sampling AA, right ?

If it's not what it means.. then I don't understand what it exactly mean by "whole scenes are rendered multiple times....."

It can't be too different.

They probably just render it at a slightly different camera arc, and take the difference. LOL :whiste:

yea i'm just makin' shit up.

 

[boxleitnerb]

I'm pretty sure ubersampling is OGSSAA.

 

[PowerK]

I don't think it's OGSSAA.

If it was OGSSAA, there would be enormous difference in VRAM usage.

I can't recall from my brief play last night. But I don't think I saw substantial difference in VRAM usage with ubersampling on/off.

I'll check again this weekend.

 

[moonbogg]

I just played crysis the other day to test my 670's and I was not impressed. It looked like a 3 year old game compared to some of the newer titles. I remember it looking so much better. Maybe since it was running at 80fps I lost respect for it?