What's going on in TN?

[HomerJS]

If that's how you take the facts, you're not doing much better than they are.

I will reiterate that I understand their protest, and I oppose the Republican's response. Nevertheless, your conclusions are clouded in your own hatred.

I guess we should have love and admiration for these Republicans in the Tennessee legislature. Seems I'm the one in error.

from Gloria Johnson to which one of the GOP Rep was forced to confess

“You know, I’ve been sitting in that body for a while. I hear racist statements all the time. And it was just a few weeks ago that one of my colleagues in our criminal justice committee, we were — we had a bill. They have a bill to bring back the firing squad and the electric chair and one of my colleagues said, ‘I think we should bring back hanging by a tree.’ He literally suggested lynching. I think it’s very clear. There have been statements in committee for years, and they’ve made themselves clear. If you heard the questioning of those two young men compared to my questioning, you definitely heard racially tinged questions. It’s blatant, quite frankly.”

Tennessee Rep. Gloria Johnson Tells Don Lemon ‘I Hear Racist Statements’ in State House ‘All the Time’

Rep. Gloria Johnson revealed to CNN's Don Lemon that she has heard racist statements "all the time" in the Tennessee State House where she serves.

www.mediaite.com

 

[Pohemi]

And of course, the racist assholes have to attempt to exert control and power over dat derr colored boy...

His reply is perfect.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/12k62j0

 

[hal2kilo]

If that's how you take the facts, you're not doing much better than they are.

She survived by a single vote. Almost all of them voted for her to be removed. Less than a handful voted differently.
But there is a major difference in their actions, which SHOULD dictate the results. She merely walked with the men. Basically she did absolutely nothing wrong with regards to rules and decorum. The two men took all the disruptive action and "paid a price" for it. But with reinstatement that has now been mooted at worst, or better yet, become a badge of honor. Just another notch on the culture war as we still pretend to be a civil society.

I will reiterate that I understand their protest, and I oppose the Republican's response. Nevertheless, your conclusions are clouded in your own hatred.

Something's cloudy allright.

 

[HomerJS]

If that's how you take the facts, you're not doing much better than they are.

I will reiterate that I understand their protest, and I oppose the Republican's response. Nevertheless, your conclusions are clouded in your own hatred.

Even Forbes a right leaning publication admitted racism was the cause of the expulsion of the 2 black legislators

The ‘All Things Being Equal Test’ Part II: Blatant Racism In The Tennessee House

The shocking but not surprising expulsion of two young Black men by the Tennessee State Legislature while their 60-year-old White colleague was spared ouster despite breaking house rules in the exact same way is a blatant display of racism, pure and simple.

www.forbes.com

If anyone thinks my ire is misplaced when it comes to Tennessee take a look at this. Took these rednecks until 2018 to remove this mural from an elementary school. While worried so much about CRT imagine the trauma little black kids must have felt looking at that everyday. But, we don't care about them.

Tennessee school removes Confederate flag, lynching murals | CNN

A painting of a Confederate flag and a mural depicting a lynching have been removed from the walls of a Tennessee school gymnasium.

www.cnn.com

In spite of all that I'm the one with the problem. I have no reason to harbor a level of hate for Republicans in Tennessee. My admitted emotional reaction to those people is completely unfounded?

 

[HomerJS]

If that's how you take the facts, you're not doing much better than they are.

I will reiterate that I understand their protest, and I oppose the Republican's response. Nevertheless, your conclusions are clouded in your own hatred.

More model behavior from Tennessee Republicans.

Republicans for years refused to remove a bust of a the first KKK Grand Wizard. Democrats wanted it removed but of course the white people objected.

Protesters filled the halls week after week, year after year, calling for the removal of the bust of the Ku Klux Klan’s first Grand Wizard, a piece of art featured prominently between the House and Senate chambers. Democrats pushed for its removal, while Republicans resisted.

No One Should Be That Shocked by What’s Happening in Tennessee

I covered the statehouse for years. It’s been heading in this direction for a while.

www.politico.com

White Republicans called one of the expelled black legislators a "baboon".

unnamed Republican lawmaker in Tennessee reportedly called Rep Justin Jones and another Black legislator “baboons” during the summer of 2020.

MSN

www.msn.com

Again, I guess the problem is me. Clearly I'm overreacting.

 

[woolfe9998]

To whatever extent racism may or may not have been a factor in this, it was clearly a naked power grab from a political party that has become increasingly undemocratic and authoritarian. They won't stop so long as their base voters continue to reward them for their behavior.

 

[HomerJS]

To whatever extent racism may or may not have been a factor in this, it was clearly a naked power grab from a political party that has become increasingly undemocratic and authoritarian. They won't stop so long as their base voters continue to reward them for their behavior.

I guess we just don't have enough evidence. I'll work on getting more. Knowing these people I'm sure I'll find it.

 

[alien42]

To whatever extent racism may or may not have been a factor in this, it was clearly a naked power grab from a political party that has become increasingly undemocratic and authoritarian. They won't stop so long as their base voters continue to reward them for their behavior.

racism, sexism and christianity are the core of Republican politics, all one has to do is look at Congress.

 

[woolfe9998]

racism, sexism and christianity are the core of Republican politics, all one has to do is look at Congress.

I'm not saying there is no racism among republicans, that it isn't a animating motive behind many republican decisions.

But today's GOP leaders are motivated by power above all else.

And their voters want their side to "win." Which is why they will sometimes show up and elect a black republican, who they would vote for any day of the week and twice on Sundays over a white democrat. If racism overrides everything else, that would never happen.

 

[woolfe9998]

I guess we just don't have enough evidence. I'll work on getting more. Knowing these people I'm sure I'll find it.

Jaskalas has a fair point about the expulsion vote being close. Why would the majority of GOP in that body vote to expel the white democrat if this is mainly about racism?

Your Forbes article, BTW, is entirely based on ignoring this fact, not mentioning it.

What this is about is the GOP testing the waters to see how much power they can grab by unethically using the power of their own office to damage the opposing political party. This kind of behavior is trending right now. And it's only going to get worse.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Jaskalas has a fair point about the expulsion vote being close. Why would the majority of GOP in that body vote to expel the white democrat if this is mainly about racism?

Your Forbes article, BTW, is entirely based on ignoring this fact, not mentioning it.

What this is about is the GOP testing the waters to see how much power they can grab by unethically using the power of their own office to damage the opposing political party. This kind of behavior is trending right now. And it's only going to get worse.

Its an exceptionally weird argument for you to go "you're ignoring that they mostly voted to expel her!" like it was some gotcha while you ignore they literally did not fucking expel her but did expel the 2 black men.

Your entire post, beeteedubs, is entirely based on ignoring this fact, not mentioning it. Also, by the way, you sound like a fucking moronic conservative by trying to be a condescending asshole while you shit all over your own (and Jackasslass') stupid argument.

Hmm, I don't know, maybe its partisan politics, racism, and sexism? It doesn't have to be just one you know? But I don't know, let's see, if they didn't expel the white woman Democrat, but did expel the 2 black Democrat men, hmm, what's the differentiator there? Let me guess, you'll be arguing that its reverse sexism next?

Also bizarre is that you're essentially going "sure they're racist, but this is about power" like that's a better argument to make for why people should oppose the fucked up racist power grabbing that conservatives the world over are doing. Cause I guess racism isn't a good enough reason. And apparently you think grabbing power can't also be due to racism, for some reason.

It doesn't even matter, as all of this shit behavior converges on the same shitty people. They are racist, sexist, and power hungry lunatic assholes. Arguing about which specific aspect is causing them to be shitty is pointless, since its basically always because of all 3.

 

[cytg111]

Francis off his meds again.

 

[HomerJS]

Jaskalas has a fair point about the expulsion vote being close. Why would the majority of GOP in that body vote to expel the white democrat if this is mainly about racism?

Your Forbes article, BTW, is entirely based on ignoring this fact, not mentioning it.

What this is about is the GOP testing the waters to see how much power they can grab by unethically using the power of their own office to damage the opposing political party. This kind of behavior is trending right now. And it's only going to get worse.

I'm not discounting that point but it doesn't explain all the other shit like the lynching mural being left up in an elementary school until 2018? I thought they are about protecting kids? Clearly, they mean protecting white kids. That's why it stayed up so long.

 

[woolfe9998]

I'm not discounting that point but it doesn't explain all the other shit like the lynching mural being left up in an elementary school until 2018? I thought they are about protecting kids? Clearly, they mean protecting white kids. That's why it stayed up so long.

Yes other anecdotes means there's some racism there. Racism, especially in southern politics, is old as the hills. But what I'm discussing is the motivation for this particular act. And the reason I'm discussing it is because I think it's important not to misdiagnose what is going on with the GOP, because it's dangerous.

We've got Ron DeSantis in Florida using the power of his office to punish a corporation for allegedly espousing views he doesn't agree with. We've got GOP everywhere trying to supress the democrat vote. We've got Gym Jordan using his power of office to harass a local DA. We had Trump threatening to hold up arms to Ukraine if they didn't pretend to start an "investigation" of Biden. And now we have this. These and many other things are corrupt abuses of power. It presages authoritarian rule if we're not careful.

 

[Meghan54]

I'm not saying there is no racism among republicans, that it isn't a animating motive behind many republican decisions.

But today's GOP leaders are motivated by power above all else.

And their voters want their side to "win." Which is why they will sometimes show up and elect a black republican, who they would vote for any day of the week and twice on Sundays over a white democrat. If racism overrides everything else, that would never happen.

So, you live in TN I take it?

 

[hal2kilo]

So, you live in TN I take it?

It's just not the point he's trying to make.

 

[HomerJS]

Yes other anecdotes means there's some racism there. Racism, especially in southern politics, is old as the hills. But what I'm discussing is the motivation for this particular act. And the reason I'm discussing it is because I think it's important not to misdiagnose what is going on with the GOP, because it's dangerous.

We've got Ron DeSantis in Florida using the power of his office to punish a corporation for allegedly espousing views he doesn't agree with. We've got GOP everywhere trying to supress the democrat vote. We've got Gym Jordan using his power of office to harass a local DA. We had Trump threatening to hold up arms to Ukraine if they didn't pretend to start an "investigation" of Biden. And now we have this. These and many other things are corrupt abuses of power. It presages authoritarian rule if we're not careful.

Have you considered answer may be both?

Republicans engage in a naked power grab AND they are a racist party.

 

[woolfe9998]

Have you considered answer may be both?

Republicans engage in a naked power grab AND they are a racist party.

Yes I've considered it, and it's quite probably true. I just don't think it's productive to view racism as primary in the GOP agenda right now, because there are too many other cases of GOP abuses of power that can't be linked to racism, but they are all part of the same pattern. I shouldn't have to point out the obvious here, but if we end up with a one party authoritarian state, people of color, as well as gays, trans, Muslims, liberals in general, as well as any turncoat republicans, are all in deep shit.

 

[MtnMan]

Tennessee House Leader Who Led Expulsion Effort May Be Breaking Residency Rules

State House Speaker Cameron Sexton’s child attends school in Nashville, two hours away from the lawmaker’s home district.

truthout.org

 

[MtnMan]

The republican speaker of the TN House is such a douche canoe that even christians are demanding he resign.

Thousands of outraged Christians demand Tennessee Republican's resignation

Tennessee GOP legislators have been criticized in recent weeks as the public calls for stricter gun laws following a school shooting that killed six people.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Pens1566]

Uh oh, looks like Sexton has some more info coming out about him cheating on wife #2 (who he cheated on wife #1 with) with a TN lobbyist. And that lobbyist happens to be married to the Comms director for Gov. Lee.

 

[HomerJS]

Mark my words, be on the lookout for Republicans across the country passing laws that disproportionately make it harder for young people to vote. Esp in colleges and inner cities

Wait how for it

Told you so...
told you so...
told you so...
told you so...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...id=63177b71c8654c67bc21b56f6eb0266c&ei=10told you so...

 

[fskimospy]

Lol. The dominos keep falling. This was such an incredible self-own by the GOP.

REVEALED: GOP leader, who voted to expel TN Three, resigns; found guilty of sexually harassing interns

A member of Republican leadership in the Tennessee House of Representatives was found guilty of sexually harassing legislative interns by an ethics subcommittee acting in secret

www.newschannel5.com

 

[HomerJS]

Lol. The dominos keep falling. This was such an incredible self-own by the GOP.

REVEALED: GOP leader, who voted to expel TN Three, resigns; found guilty of sexually harassing interns

A member of Republican leadership in the Tennessee House of Representatives was found guilty of sexually harassing legislative interns by an ethics subcommittee acting in secret

www.newschannel5.com

You mean it wasn't the black people who should have been pushed out of the Legislature?

While the political lynching was underway the transgressions by the GOP leader were known.

 

[HomerJS]

Mark my words, be on the lookout for Republicans across the country passing laws that disproportionately make it harder for young people to vote. Esp in colleges and inner cities

Wait how for it

Yet another round of me telling y'all

I told you so

Top Republican lawyer tells donors conservatives should work to limit voting on college campuses

A top Republican lawyer told donors at a Republican National Committee (RNC) retreat last weekend that conservatives should work to limit voting on college campuses. Cleta Mitchell, a GOP lawyer who assisted former President Trump in his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, called on Saturday...

www.yahoo.com