what the palestinians teach their kids

[tnitsuj]

That is a celebration for Baruch Goldstein. They just have the Amir bumper sticker because he is another one of thier heros.

I got kicked out of Hebrew school and am not welcome in Pikesville anymore, and am only 1 1/2 semesters into Arabic, but anyone who can read it would tell you that.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

You did the right thing. Be proud of yourself for standing up for your Aryan heritage, against the insults and threats of this non-pure-blooded brown infidel.

Zephyr

i am sorry to burst your somewhat idiodic/stereotypcial bubble...but you obviously did not read the post.

i am a CHEROKEE. the story of that incedent is from that perspective.

besides "arayan" is a SANSKRIT word in origin and orginally meant people in northern india and the surrounding region look up "iran" it means the same thing and the name iran is actually older than persia. hitler used to to his own purposes but those of scandinavian stock are not actual aryans, people they would refer to as "darkies" would!

BTW zephyr, where did you get your stereotypical racist impression?

and to bring us back on topic...another linky!

 

[Zephyr106]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

You did the right thing. Be proud of yourself for standing up for your Aryan heritage, against the insults and threats of this non-pure-blooded brown infidel.

Zephyr

i am sorry to burst your somewhat idiodic/stereotypcial bubble...but you obviously did not read the post.

i am a CHEROKEE. the story of that incedent is from that perspective.

besides "arayan" is a SANSKRIT word in origin and orginally meant people in northern india and the surrounding region look up "iran" it means the same thing and the name iran is actually older than persia. hitler used to to his own purposes but those of scandinavian stock are not actual aryans, people they would refer to as "darkies" would!

BTW zephyr, where did you get your stereotypical racist impression?

and to bring us back on topic...another linky!

Obviously when you said Indian earlier I thought you were referring to the Aryans of Northern India.

Zephyr

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
That is a celebration for Baruch Goldstein. They just have the Amir bumper sticker because he is another one of thier heros.

I got kicked out of Hebrew school and am not welcome in Pikesville anymore, and am only 1 1/2 semesters into Arabic, but anyone who can read it would tell you that.

like is aid before, i only know a smattering of hebrew(spoken). i agree that what baruch goldstien did was wrong, there is no excuse for acting like a palestinian extremist.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

You did the right thing. Be proud of yourself for standing up for your Aryan heritage, against the insults and threats of this non-pure-blooded brown infidel.

Zephyr

i am sorry to burst your somewhat idiodic/stereotypcial bubble...but you obviously did not read the post.

i am a CHEROKEE. the story of that incedent is from that perspective.

besides "arayan" is a SANSKRIT word in origin and orginally meant people in northern india and the surrounding region look up "iran" it means the same thing and the name iran is actually older than persia. hitler used to to his own purposes but those of scandinavian stock are not actual aryans, people they would refer to as "darkies" would!

BTW zephyr, where did you get your stereotypical racist impression?

and to bring us back on topic...another linky!

Obviously when you said Indian earlier I thought you were referring to the Aryans of Northern India.

Zephyr

sure you did.

oh and "cherokee" are not from india, columbus had much the same difficulty of discernment you had...BTW i did not say "indian" i said "native american" re-read the UNEDITED post where i said it.

if i were the type to try and brand people as racist simply becuase of dogmatic differences, i would say we had just seen some on your part...

 

[drewshin]

this is what americans teach their kids:

Looking for 10-20 year olds

 

[lozina]

I am appalled someone would come up with such a scathing, generalized statement and have the audacity to proclaim it's validity based on a few videos and political cartoons!

It follows the same logic as, look what the Israelis do to innocent civilians!. See that- now my idiotic prejudiced statement is validated by that one incident, right?!

But I guess I shouldn't be too surprised you'd come up with this- afterall, aren't you the one who once said Palestinians don't have a culture?

Can't get much more prejudiced than that, I think.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: drewshin
this is what americans teach their kids:

Looking for 10-20 year olds

i understand what your trying to do (ignore the point and camouflage by producing counterpoint) but it does not quite work. i do not condone the KKK (for obvious reasons! LOL!) in fact i would liken them to the palestinian extremist who teach racism and genocide.


you lefties just do not have a strategy for handling a non-white conservative do you?

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: drewshin
this is what americans teach their kids:

Looking for 10-20 year olds

i understand what your trying to do (ignore the point and camouflage by producing counterpoint) but it does not quite work. i do not condone the KKK (for obvious reasons! LOL!) in fact i would liken them to the palestinian extremist who teach racism and genocide.


you lefties just do not have a strategy for handling a non-white conservative do you?

So why don't you edit your thread title to state Palestinian extremists instead of Palestinians.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: lozina
I am appalled someone would come up with such a scathing, generalized statement and have the audacity to proclaim it's validity based on a few videos and political cartoons!

actually there are more than a few, and the hatred they teach is in schoolbooks, on mainstream tV and preached in the mosques.

Originally posted by: lozina
It follows the same logic as, look what the Israelis do to innocent civilians!. See that- now my idiotic prejudiced statement is validated by that one incident, right?!

no, not quite for reasons stated above, but i remember seeing many, many leftists doing that exact same thing.

Originally posted by: lozina
But I guess I shouldn't be too surprised you'd come up with this- afterall, aren't you the one who once said Palestinians don't have a culture?

actually i said they did not have a culture any different than surrounding arabs, that there never..ever was a nation called "palestine" and pointed out even arafat is an egyptian, all of which is factually accurate.

Originally posted by: lozina
Can't get much more prejudiced than that, I think.

ahhh the leftist version of mccarthyism! what fun!


"look at Shad0hawK! he posted videos of kids learning hatred of another ethnic group in school, on mainstream TV, and in mosques, but HE is the one that is a bigot and not them!

ROFL!

for all the people that call and like to think of yourselves" open minded"...not ONE...not a one of you has said what these palestinians are doing is wrong(one came kinda sorta close) but only attacked me for presenting it.

that is sad, but par for the course.

here is another link to piss you off



linky

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: drewshin
this is what americans teach their kids:

Looking for 10-20 year olds

i understand what your trying to do (ignore the point and camouflage by producing counterpoint) but it does not quite work. i do not condone the KKK (for obvious reasons! LOL!) in fact i would liken them to the palestinian extremist who teach racism and genocide.


you lefties just do not have a strategy for handling a non-white conservative do you?

So why don't you edit your thread title to state Palestinian extremists instead of Palestinians.

because the extremists control the palestinian government(from arafat on down), and schools which spread this. it is not a "small percentage" of palestinians, it is the mainstream.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What is sad that people are forgetting that both sides are losing innocents. This whole thing is obscene, yet there is no will on either side to stop it. Too bad.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
What is sad that people are forgetting that both sides are losing innocents. This whole thing is obscene, yet there is no will on either side to stop it. Too bad.

Well, not with people like Shad0hawK spewing garbage that only promotes hatred and misunderstanding.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
What is sad that people are forgetting that both sides are losing innocents. This whole thing is obscene, yet there is no will on either side to stop it. Too bad.

Well, not with people like Shad0hawK spewing garbage that only promotes hatred and misunderstanding.

do personal attacks fall into that catagory?

i agree what the palestinians teach in thier schools, show on thier TV, and preach in thier mosques is "garbage" why some here just cannot admit it is wrong is beyond me though.

so how exactly am i the one promoting "hatred and misunderstanding" when i am showing film audio clips and examples of palestinian schoolbooks that teach genocide and racism?

as usual the left can only make impotent personal attacks that show their true colors....

 

[0roo0roo]

the fact is that stuff is in mainstream palestinian press/media, it is pervasive. to deny so is to live in a world of fantasy. course some people have to live in such a fantasy world apparently.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the fact is that stuff is in mainstream palestinian press/media, it is pervasive. to deny so is to live in a world of fantasy. course some people have to live in such a fantasy world apparently.

last post of the night for me

i agree. with childrens heads being filled with the propaganda arafat(the egyptian) bombards them with, there will never be peace. it will only get worse until one side wins in a bloodbath that shocks even the most jaded young american. but some seem to expect them to hold hands and sing "why can't we be friends" just because the UN says so.

 

[0roo0roo]

Well, not with people like Shad0hawK spewing garbage that only promotes hatred and misunderstanding.

no solutions can be found if one denies reality. the reality is just this, that such things are main stream. western minds do not want to think such things can be still true, it doesn't go well with the fantasy ideal of a struggling under dog they so desperately want to believe in. its simply not a reality they like to recognize., its simply not pc. one must instead always stress its the extremists only that do bad things etc, as people do when talking of islamic terror, always fearing the label of racist or bigot. pointing out corruption of societies is not allowed. we've been tought to look at everything in a relativistic sense. to judge another society as flawed? oh no, thats ethnocentric bias......

the simple fact is that hatred of such a level pervades all levels of their media, all levels of their government, their government religious leaders etc. arafats own wife living in luxury in paris has been quoted as saying she would be proud if her son became a suicide bomber.

to ignore such facts so one can have a feel good view of the world is the promotion of misunderstanding. it is the promotion of ignorance, the avoidance of reality to base opinions off fantasy.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: drewshin
this is what americans teach their kids:

Looking for 10-20 year olds

i understand what your trying to do (ignore the point and camouflage by producing counterpoint) but it does not quite work. i do not condone the KKK (for obvious reasons! LOL!) in fact i would liken them to the palestinian extremist who teach racism and genocide.


you lefties just do not have a strategy for handling a non-white conservative do you?

So why don't you edit your thread title to state Palestinian extremists instead of Palestinians.

because the extremists control the palestinian government(from arafat on down), and schools which spread this. it is not a "small percentage" of palestinians, it is the mainstream.

Yes, Sharon is not extreme at all.

 

[maluckey]

Hamas, supported by Palestinian authority, has declared war. To sit back and expect the Hamas leaders to not attack is exactly what the Dems are screaming at Bush for supposedly doing with Al-Qaida. The Dems pretty much all state that if Al-Qaida declared war, why weren't we counter-attacking before 9/11?

Sharon is doing what American Dems are saying tha Bush and Co. should have done. If Al-Qaida had been dealt with, the problems facing the U.S. could theoretically have been averted. At least that's their theory.

Extreme? Maybe. Necessary..........probably. Some things in life are distasteful, but must be dealt with nonetheless. If a war is on, then only one side can win. Either side of this war that wins will likely brutalize the other. The lesser of the two evils is likely Israel.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: lozina
It follows the same logic as, look what the Israelis do to innocent civilians!. See that- now my idiotic prejudiced statement is validated by that one incident, right?!

no, not quite for reasons stated above, but i remember seeing many, many leftists doing that exact same thing.

No, it is exactly the same strategy you are using. Explain how it is any different, as I do not see you refuting that anywhere in the thread.

For example, I looked at one of your videos: the boy being interviewed by a reporter. Can you explain how a reporter who happens to shake her head is 'teaching' the Palestinian kids anything? How do 5 second interviews from a journalist in general, teach children?

Then you try and say this is 'mainstream', but that word is loaded- as mainstream implies "Representing the prevalent attitudes, values, and practices of a society or group". How can you claim this 'attitude' is prevalent among Palestinian children? Do you have perhaps a poll by a reputable organization to back up this claim? Otherwise, you cannot automatically suggest this is 'mainstream' even if it is on public television, there are countless examples in our public media which would contradict that.

And what about those cartoons on the site? Those are political cartoons that a child cannot even comprehend since they are so vague. For example: a shark labelled Gaza biting the ass of Sharon. What's a 10-year old supposed to 'learn' form that? Those are cartoons for adults!

But let me ask you something, I haven't searched yet, but let's say I find a few examples of political cartoons in Israel showing Palestinians in a bad light- something similar to a shark biting the ass of Arafat perhaps. Would I then be able to make any conclusions on what Israel 'teaches their kids'?

Or you mentioned mosque... do you think we cannot find any examples of anythign bad said about Palestinians from Jewish figures or religious texts?

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Hamas, supported by Palestinian authority, has declared war. To sit back and expect the Hamas leaders to not attack is exactly what the Dems are screaming at Bush for supposedly doing with Al-Qaida. The Dems pretty much all state that if Al-Qaida declared war, why weren't we counter-attacking before 9/11?

Sharon is doing what American Dems are saying tha Bush and Co. should have done. If Al-Qaida had been dealt with, the problems facing the U.S. could theoretically have been averted. At least that's their theory.

Extreme? Maybe. Necessary..........probably. Some things in life are distasteful, but must be dealt with nonetheless. If a war is on, then only one side can win. Either side of this war that wins will likely brutalize the other. The lesser of the two evils is likely Israel.

Actually, you're wrong. Hamas has not officially 'declared war on us' such as Al Qaeda has. Al Qaeda held a 'press-conference' declaring war on us. All you have is an anonymous fax claiming to be a Hamas spokesperson who threatened the USA. And now we have official statements from the Hamas organization disputing that original transcript and clarifying that US is not a target.

 

[Aimster]

Shad0hawK = Arab hating Pro Israeli.
Posting things to get people to hate Palestinians ... especially on Anandtech is not going to achieve your goal. Israel has their own terrorist organizations and hate groups just like the Palestinians.

I don't care for either side but if someone came and destroyed your home and told you when you could leave your house what would you tell your children when they asked why they couldn't go outside at 7 when it was dark because they wanted to go play with their friends. What would you tell them when their school was destroyed and the place they worshipped was detroyed? If you think the Israeli people have any feelings for the Palestinian people you are wrong. They look at them as animals and that is why they get shot for throwing rocks at tanks because they simply don't care for the innocent children getting killed.

I don't get why people like you come to a tech form to try to spread your hate..
good luck with that

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
What is sad that people are forgetting that both sides are losing innocents. This whole thing is obscene, yet there is no will on either side to stop it. Too bad.

Well, not with people like Shad0hawK spewing garbage that only promotes hatred and misunderstanding.

do personal attacks fall into that catagory?

i agree what the palestinians teach in thier schools, show on thier TV, and preach in thier mosques is "garbage" why some here just cannot admit it is wrong is beyond me though.

so how exactly am i the one promoting "hatred and misunderstanding" when i am showing film audio clips and examples of palestinian schoolbooks that teach genocide and racism?

as usual the left can only make impotent personal attacks that show their true colors....

Heh, you can't even differentiate between what's a personal attack and stating facts. If I call you stupid, that's a personal attack, the statement that you are spewing garbage that promotes hatred and misunderstanding is just simple fact.

What you show here does not represent the official stand of Palestinian authorization. There are plenty of people in Palestinian who support peaceful struggle. Just in the news today

Palestinian Intellectuals, Officials Urge Restraint

And most importantly, you failed to mention or failed to understand the transgression Israel government and settlers have done in the past that caused extremist palestinians to act they way they act.

Throughout human history, there are only two ways to settle disputes. One is by negotiation and compromise and the other is by force and domination. Negotiation and compromise requires both side to understand the cause of the dispute and work to resolve the differences. Seems like there are plenty of hawks in this place that either lacks the intelligence to understand the cause of the dispute, are just plain arrogant that they feel they can dominate the Muslims and get whatever they wish.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Aimster

If you think the Israeli people have any feelings for the Palestinian people you are wrong. They look at them as animals and that is why they get shot for throwing rocks at tanks because they simply don't care for the innocent children getting killed.

...sorta like how they executed that Palestinian youth yesterday who arrived at a border checkpoint with a bomb strapped to his waist.

Palestinian apologists have a hard time accepting the fact that Israeli military action directed at the Palestinians is ALWAYS in response to or in an effort to prevent Palestinian terrorists from killing Israelis. Israel has no terrorists, just a well-trained professional army who is pretty damn effective at what they do. There are times unfortunately, when an Innocent Palestinian may be killed but it is damn near always the case that the soldiers were targeting terrorists when such an unfortunate incident occurs.

How else can you explain the fact that the Israelis have killed Palestinian terrorists with remarkable precision while Israeli casualties are overwhelmingly innocent civilians. One points to targeted elimination of terrorists while the other points to random acts of violence intended to kill as many persons as possible.

In addition, Palestinian propaganda is well documented. Their schools and cultures exudes virulent anti-semitism. The majority of Palestinians support suicide bombings. Yes, there are instances of Israeli propaganda also. However, the difference is that this is a tiny minority and routinely dismissed and unsupported by any significant amount of Israelis.

If one is willing to dismiss Palestinian propaganda as unlikely or exaggerated, then how is it possible to see little children,one hand holding their parents and the other holding a toy gun, marching in support of terror organizations? How is it possible to observe 30+ youths sent to be human bombs and to "die a martyrs death"? How is it possible that Palestinian parents routinely exclaim that it would be an honor for their children to become a suicide bomber?

You see, to deny these things are a result of some of the worst propaganda this world has seen since WWII, is to deny the Palistinians have a heart. You would, in essence, be saying that Palestinians are born with rage, hate and anti-semitism. In fact, it would be you Aimster, who is the Palestinian hater, since you are denying the very reasons Palestinian society is as morally depraved as it is. No one is claiming Palestinians are inherently a bad people, but rather we are claiming that vitriolic anti-semitic propaganda, corrupt leadership, and violence have crafted a very dangerous society.

 

[lozina]

Well, the truth is, bigots/racists wouldn't exist if they could see the error of their ways. I believe shadohawk truly believes that Palestinians are evil and want only to destroy Israel, so he will seek any tidbit of trite, anemic evidence to support his beliefs. Anything will suffice as long as it supports his conclusion that Palestinians are basically "out-to-get the Jews". I understand why he may feel this way, as Palestinians have caused alot of harm to Israelis, but he needs to realize the wind blows in both directions. I seriously doubt any reasoning will convince him otherwise, and he serves an example as to why peace is so difficult in the region, as both sides have become so polarized and demonize eachother to such an extent.