What is it about Android that makes it more "advanced"?

[mikegg]

No, they can't.

I found widgets on Android useless. The drop down on iOS has replaced the only widget worth having - time/weather.

 

[openwheel]

Yea, please find posts where I've shown that I'm a fanboy.

I don't use any Apple stuff except the iPhone. I've used a Galaxy Nexus for 7 months. I've used a Nexus 7 for 4 months. How am I even biased?

I've criticized both Apple and Android. What I find funny is that Android users thinks iOS is inferior because it's designed differently.

it's inferior because it's locked down. If the user like Apple's rules in technology, then the iOS is for him/her.

If you want "smoothness", then nothing beats WM8.

 

[mikegg]

it's inferior because it's locked down. If the user like Apple's rules in technology, then the iOS is for him/her.

If you want "smoothness", then nothing beats WM8.

That's not a valid reason for being inferior. Apple locked down on a few things that Android leaves open but the default things can be better than whatever you customized on Android.

Never used WM8 but I noticed no slowdowns at all on iOS like I have on Android using Galaxy Nexus.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

it's inferior because it's locked down. If the user like Apple's rules in technology, then the iOS is for him/her.

If you want "smoothness", then nothing beats WM8.

it's statements like these that make a person a fanboy. it's not like Google does't make decisions for you.

Google says that you don't get SD cards. Google says that you don't get capacitive keys anymore. Your 4.7" is not 4.7" It's 4.5". Too bad. When Google makes decisions that you have to accept it's fine, but when Apple does it, it's the most evil thing in the world. At least Apple thinks about what works well and what doesn't.

When Google said that 256mb onboard memory is fine and it's meant to curtail pirating, tell those Droid users who couldn't install crap worth apps unless they moved Dalvik to SD. And even then that brought their onboard memory up to like 220mb only. Apps2sd doesn't solve it if that's what you're thinking because certain apps require storage on the SD card.

It took phone makers months to realize this (SGS1) before it was corrected. But of course Google can make calls like that and not be made fun of.

Since 4.1 your phone vibrates regardless of the app setting. Gmail vibrates on every new email in vibrate mode despite the vibrate button being unchecked inapp. IT's a global setting Google applies across apps. Glad they really care for customization.

 

[Red Storm]

I found widgets on Android useless. The drop down on iOS has replaced the only widget worth having - time/weather.

I'm sorry to hear that. If iOS works for you great, but you've never once responded to my original post (or other people's) about actual things that are more advanced on Android. I think you aren't interested in an actual answer.

 

[JD50]

it's statements like these that make a person a fanboy. it's not like Google does't make decisions for you.

Google says that you don't get SD cards. Google says that you don't get capacitive keys anymore. Your 4.7" is not 4.7" It's 4.5". Too bad. When Google makes decisions that you have to accept it's fine, but when Apple does it, it's the most evil thing in the world. At least Apple thinks about what works well and what doesn't.

When Google said that 256mb onboard memory is fine and it's meant to curtail pirating, tell those Droid users who couldn't install crap worth apps unless they moved Dalvik to SD. And even then that brought their onboard memory up to like 220mb only. Apps2sd doesn't solve it if that's what you're thinking because certain apps require storage on the SD card.

It took phone makers months to realize this (SGS1) before it was corrected. But of course Google can make calls like that and not be made fun of.

The term "locked down" refers to software, not hardware.

 

[JD50]

I found widgets on Android useless. The drop down on iOS has replaced the only widget worth having - time/weather.

Everything that you've brought up so far amounts to personal opinion.

 

[ponyo]

That's not a valid reason for being inferior. Apple locked down on a few things that Android leaves open but the default things can be better than whatever you customized on Android.

Never used WM8 but I noticed no slowdowns at all on iOS like I have on Android using Galaxy Nexus.

It can't slowdown when it can't do it in the first place. Ever use JB iOS device? You'll see plenty of slowdown and reboot.

 

[sze5003]

it's statements like these that make a person a fanboy. it's not like Google does't make decisions for you.

Google says that you don't get SD cards. Google says that you don't get capacitive keys anymore. Your 4.7" is not 4.7" It's 4.5". Too bad. When Google makes decisions that you have to accept it's fine, but when Apple does it, it's the most evil thing in the world. At least Apple thinks about what works well and what doesn't.

When Google said that 256mb onboard memory is fine and it's meant to curtail pirating, tell those Droid users who couldn't install crap worth apps unless they moved Dalvik to SD. And even then that brought their onboard memory up to like 220mb only. Apps2sd doesn't solve it if that's what you're thinking because certain apps require storage on the SD card.

It took phone makers months to realize this (SGS1) before it was corrected. But of course Google can make calls like that and not be made fun of.

Since 4.1 your phone vibrates regardless of the app setting. Gmail vibrates on every new email in vibrate mode despite the vibrate button being unchecked inapp. IT's a global setting Google applies across apps. Glad they really care for customization.

I'm in 4.1 on my HTC rezound and none of my apps are set to vibrate on notifications or emails. It did at first, I went to settings, notifications, turned that off. Never vibrated after that no matter how many messages I got.

 

[ElFenix]

So it's quite fair to use subsidized prices as that is what the majority here do.

in the US. which i'm guessing doesn't make up even half of daily android activations.

 

[gorcorps]

I found widgets on Android useless. The drop down on iOS has replaced the only widget worth having - time/weather.

That's because people don't use widgets to their potential. Most people just dump them on their boring grid homescreen and call it good. Go to mycolorscreen.com and see what type of UI mods are capable if you know what you're doing with widgets.

 

[openwheel]

I'm in 4.1 on my HTC rezound and none of my apps are set to vibrate on notifications or emails. It did at first, I went to settings, notifications, turned that off. Never vibrated after that no matter how many messages I got.

:thumbsup:
I haven't used this word for 5 years since college, but "pwned" comes to mind.

 

[openwheel]

it's statements like these that make a person a fanboy. it's not like Google does't make decisions for you.

Google says that you don't get SD cards. Google says that you don't get capacitive keys anymore. Your 4.7" is not 4.7" It's 4.5". Too bad. When Google makes decisions that you have to accept it's fine, but when Apple does it, it's the most evil thing in the world. At least Apple thinks about what works well and what doesn't.

When Google said that 256mb onboard memory is fine and it's meant to curtail pirating, tell those Droid users who couldn't install crap worth apps unless they moved Dalvik to SD. And even then that brought their onboard memory up to like 220mb only. Apps2sd doesn't solve it if that's what you're thinking because certain apps require storage on the SD card.

It took phone makers months to realize this (SGS1) before it was corrected. But of course Google can make calls like that and not be made fun of.

Since 4.1 your phone vibrates regardless of the app setting. Gmail vibrates on every new email in vibrate mode despite the vibrate button being unchecked inapp. IT's a global setting Google applies across apps. Glad they really care for customization.

so wrong on so many levels, as proven above. I'll just touch your first point. I see plenty of capacitive buttons on Android phones.

There, Google doesn't make that decision for me. Since your first point is completely invalid, I will skip the rest of none-sense as I always do.

 

[openwheel]

The term "locked down" refers to software, not hardware.

:thumbsup:

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

:thumbsup:
I haven't used this word for 5 years since college, but "pwned" comes to mind.

He's talking about some HTC phone that probably runs sense. But maybe instead of dancing around this forum as the biggest fanboy with NO quality in any of your posts, how about you eat your words:

Issue 39592: 4.2 -- phone vibrates on email receipt even when setting is to "no vibration" in both gmail and mail

Issue 40538: Android 4.2 on Galaxy Nexus - phone vibrates on all notifications even if vibrations are off

Jelly Bean & vibrate for notifications

Look, HTC might have realized what a big issue this was and fixed it. It's a non issue on my SGS2 with CyanogenMod 10. The point remains that developers figured that people do want control on when vibrate does kick in. Google botched something up since 4.1. Hopefully CM 10.1 again fixes the stupid problems Google overlooks.

 

[jpeyton]

Google says that you don't get SD cards.

Then why do we have Android devices with SD card slots?

Google says that you don't get capacitive keys anymore.

Then why do we have Android devices with capacitive keys?

Your 4.7" is not 4.7" It's 4.5".

Or 4", 4.3", 4.8", 5", 5.5". Did you just try to use screen size as an argument against Android?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

so wrong on so many levels, as proven above. I'll just touch your first point. I see plenty of capacitive buttons on Android phones.

There, Google doesn't make that decision for me. Since your first point is completely invalid, I will skip the rest of none-sense as I always do.

1) You didn't prove jack shit. You just danced around some post some guy made. You made zero effort to verify claims, and I just pretty much shot your crap down by posting the same problem described on Google forums and XDA.

2) The Nexus devices are lacking capacitive buttons, and newer phones are losing capacitive buttons. Google doesn't go out there and remove support for hard buttons, but it's pretty much dictating what the next generation of phones will be like. While you can argue phone manufacturers have leeway to do whatever they like, they tend to follow in Google's footsteps. So yes, Google IS making decisions. In fact its soft button decision is just dumb. So far the pros that people have pointed out aren't really pros, because capacitive buttons can be made to behave similarly. The only difference is in the Nexus 7 and 10 where the nav bar will rotate when you rotate the device. But a lot of people have said that's stupid as well because now you have 3 buttons stretched wide on a 10 inch nav bar that makes the screen even shorter.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Then why do we have Android devices with SD card slots?

You can always hope that someone will build a phone with SD cards, but the Nexus phones that everyone swears by here will never have an SD card. Do I have a choice for AOSP? Apparently not.

Then why do we have Android devices with capacitive keys?

See above.

Or 4", 4.3", 4.8", 5", 5.5". Did you just try to use screen size as an argument against Android?

???

 

[Sheep]

That's because people don't use widgets to their potential. Most people just dump them on their boring grid homescreen and call it good. Go to mycolorscreen.com and see what type of UI mods are capable if you know what you're doing with widgets.

Holee crap, how have I never heard of mycolorscreen.com? There are some freaking amazing designs on that site. I've been getting inspiration from Lifehacker's Featured Homescreen until now (http://lifehacker.com/Featured-android-home-screen/).

 

[cliftonite]

it's statements like these that make a person a fanboy. it's not like Google does't make decisions for you.

Google says that you don't get SD cards. Google says that you don't get capacitive keys anymore. Your 4.7" is not 4.7" It's 4.5". Too bad. When Google makes decisions that you have to accept it's fine, but when Apple does it, it's the most evil thing in the world. At least Apple thinks about what works well and what doesn't.

When Google said that 256mb onboard memory is fine and it's meant to curtail pirating, tell those Droid users who couldn't install crap worth apps unless they moved Dalvik to SD. And even then that brought their onboard memory up to like 220mb only. Apps2sd doesn't solve it if that's what you're thinking because certain apps require storage on the SD card.

It took phone makers months to realize this (SGS1) before it was corrected. But of course Google can make calls like that and not be made fun of.

Since 4.1 your phone vibrates regardless of the app setting. Gmail vibrates on every new email in vibrate mode despite the vibrate button being unchecked inapp. IT's a global setting Google applies across apps. Glad they really care for customization.

Sorry but my brand new Android device has SD card, > 4.7" phone, hardware buttons.

 

[jpeyton]

Holee crap, how have I never heard of mycolorscreen.com? There are some freaking amazing designs on that site. I've been getting inspiration from Lifehacker's Featured Homescreen until now (http://lifehacker.com/Featured-android-home-screen/).

This is one of my favorites:

And when you feel like looking at icons on a grid, just hit the app drawer icon.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Holee crap, how have I never heard of mycolorscreen.com? There are some freaking amazing designs on that site. I've been getting inspiration from Lifehacker's Featured Homescreen until now (http://lifehacker.com/Featured-android-home-screen/).

Absolutely, but for every one of those awesome screens I see, I see 200 other fuglyass screens on AndroidForums. Look, without a doubt people can customize, but how many people even have those screens? I'm not even remotely impressed with ANY of the screens people have put on Anandtech.

I agree customization can be cool. People used to skin the hell out of their PCs. But how many people do you run into a daily basis with some crazyass UI? My home computer used to be some sleek spaceship, but every other PC I touch is a standard PC with normal Luna skin (back in XP days).

It might make you happy, and you might get used to the UI, but at the end of the day, the Stock Android user really isn't missing out.

I like widgets too, don't get me wrong, but to act like the ability to customize your phone makes it the best feature ever is absurd. It's useful, but in no way is it some diehard necessity.

Additionally, do you realize how long it takes to customize some of those phones? Overlapping widgets, create custom PSDs, add 300 widgets, put 1 widget over another, 1 text widget, 1 graphic widget, download like 10 different apps to do this. Finally have a cool look, only to slave through and change it all over 3 weeks later. It's a pretty painful process, so while it looks cool, it's not many people's cup of tea. And by customize I don't mean adding 1 widget to your homescreen. I'm talking about the transformations people do on Mycolorscreen.

 

[openwheel]

DLeRium you are totally confusing Android as Google and Nexus, and people are picking you apart here. I thought you would realize after so many members pointing out the same thing to you....

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Dlerium is an android h8r

 

[openwheel]

I know that, but he sometimes makes good arguments. Maybe today is not his day...