What I have found out about God.

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Marius Dejess

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Dear readers, please read the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
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See? Dear readers, no opponents like one Occams have dared to appear and throw objections on my concept of God, namely:

God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

Why? Because they are so busy running away from honest intelligent productive thinking, and throwing up smoke screen with vulgarities, obscenities, and profanities, anal, genital, and oral morbidities.


Now let us resume our examination of my concept of God, namely:

God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

You notice I am sure that there is that phrase, in concept: why is it so important?

Simple, because the phrase in concept is a call to honest intelligent productive homines sapientes to think with their nature endowed brain/mind.

So, as my opponents here who are deniers of God's existence have their brain/mind all suppurated with vulgarities, obscenities, and profanities, anal, genital, and oral morbidities,* how can they ever get to do honest intelligent productive thinking at all?

The differential correlative of the phrase "in concept" is the phrase "in object".

For example, in concept a bullet is the projectile that is blasted out from the barrel of a gun, in object it is the projectile that will pierce into the brain of a brainless person - who thought of testing his loaded gun by looking into the barrel of his gun and pulling the trigger.


Now, in the case of the concept of God, namely: God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, with that concept in our mind, we go forth into the realm of reality outside our mind and independent of our mind, to search for the object or entity corresponding to the concept in our mind, using the concept as a guide in our search.

I ask my opponents here, what is wrong with the procedure by which I come to the existence of God, by transiting from concept to object?

My brainless opponents might think that they are pretty smart, with telling me that if God is a bullet and I shoot God into my brain, nothing will happen.

Okay, my dear opponents, prove to me that nothing will happen if you shoot the God bullet into your brain.


*I should already abstain from mentioning the vulgarities, obscenities, and profanities, anal, genital, and oral morbidities suppurating in the brain of my opponents here, it's enough that they continue to remind readers that those unclean matters are festering inside their brain.



{For your orientation}

God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And here is the OP:
Marius Dejess said:
Title of thread: What I have found out about God.

I have found out that God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And how did I find that out?

By reasoning on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

What is the benefit to me from the concept of God as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning?

It brings me to the certain knowledge that God exists, whereas before I had only the belief that God exists, but not the certain knowledge.

Still I can't get God to talk with me.

{End of post}
 

Iron Woode

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looks like Marius-bot hasn't gotten the point yet:

No one here cares about your religious bot posts.

now go away.
 

ringtail

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Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, 'Lo, it is here!' or 'Lo, it is there!' For behold, the Kingdom of God is within you.”

Gospel of Thomas Saying 113

His disciples said to him: On what day will the kingdom come? <Jesus said:> It will not come while people watch for it; they will not say: Look, here it is, or: Look, there it is; but the kingdom of the father is spread out over the earth, and men do not see it.

 

Marius Dejess

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Dear readers, please read the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
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Dear readers and dear my opponents here, you must be aware that I could be lapsing into the fallacy of illicit transit, namely, passing from the realm of concepts in my mind, to the realm of reality outside and independent of my mind, man's mind.

That is the correlative controversial claim of St. Anselm, that from the concept of God as the being greater than which no other can be conceived, it follows that God exists.

Anselm's argument for the existence of God:
Anselm claims to derive the existence of God from the concept of a being than which no greater can be conceived. St. Anselm reasoned that, if such a being fails to exist, then a greater being - namely, a being than which no greater can be conceived, and which exists - can be conceived.


The difference between St. Anselm and yours truly is that St. Anselm sticks to thoughts inside his mind, but yours truly go forth into the realm of reality outside and independent of my mind, man’s mind: to look for i.e. search for evidence to the existence of God, in concept - not as the most perfect being, but in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.


{For your orientation}

God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And here is the OP:
Marius Dejess said:
Title of thread: What I have found out about God.

I have found out that God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And how did I find that out?

By reasoning on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

What is the benefit to me from the concept of God as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning?

It brings me to the certain knowledge that God exists, whereas before I had only the belief that God exists, but not the certain knowledge.

Still I can't get God to talk with me.

{End of post}
 

Marius Dejess

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Dear readers, please first read the second quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
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Okay, dear readers, and my opponents here who are deniers of God's existence, God in concept as the creator cause of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, please focus on the text below in bold and italic

[ . . . ]

The difference between St. Anselm and yours truly is that St. Anselm sticks to thoughts inside his mind, but yours truly go forth into the realm of reality outside and independent of my mind, man’s mind: to look for i.e. search for evidence to the existence of God, in concept - not as the most perfect being, but in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

[ . . . ]



I await with bated breath for my opponents here, to present from honest productive intelligence, their questions, or objections, or comments, on the text of concern above.

Wishing you, dear my opponents here, happy honest productive intelligent thinking, okay?



{For your orientation}

God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And here is the OP:
Marius Dejess said:
Title of thread: What I have found out about God.

I have found out that God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And how did I find that out?

By reasoning on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

What is the benefit to me from the concept of God as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning?

It brings me to the certain knowledge that God exists, whereas before I had only the belief that God exists, but not the certain knowledge.

Still I can't get God to talk with me.

{End of post}
 

dasherHampton

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The Hell paradox.

We "good, pious" individuals live our lives as God prescribes and are rewarded eternal life. Those who don't are banished to an eternal fiery hell.

But.... everyone who has ever lived knows someone who's going to hell per the rules. Every single one of us.

How could we possibly live out eternity in sublime grace knowing that someone we love is experiencing eternal hellfire?

Unless........ Our memories of life on earth are erased once we ascend to heaven. If that's the case - what was the fucking point of all of this pain we experienced down here?
 

sandorski

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The Hell paradox.

We "good, pious" individuals live our lives as God prescribes and are rewarded eternal life. Those who don't are banished to an eternal fiery hell.

But.... everyone who has ever lived knows someone who's going to hell per the rules. Every single one of us.

How could we possibly live out eternity in sublime grace knowing that someone we love is experiencing eternal hellfire?

Unless........ Our memories of life on earth are erased once we ascend to heaven. If that's the case - what was the fucking point of all of this pain we experienced down here?

Our purpose on Earth is to give money to the Preacher.
 

dasherHampton

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Why didn't God just start us off with eternal life instead of having having us meander around down here?

It would have made things so much easier.
 

JEDIYoda

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Our purpose on Earth is to give money to the Preacher.
she neverf mentioned anything about that...you were holding your own until you decided to play a Donald trump on her....
I just sitting back having popcorn and cold beer!!
 

Marius Dejess

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Dear readers, please read first the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
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Dear readers, and also my opponents here, I will just tell you that I agree perfectly with my opponents here, that there is no God, not as described by my opponents, who in imitation of Bertrand Russell their master of deceit (calling God an orbiting teapot in space), you my opponents here call God a flying spaghetti monster.

Now I invite us all to do genuinely honest intelligent productive thinking, in particular my opponents here, okay?

I state time and again that my concept of God is the following:

God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

What or which universe are we talking about?

Suppose we consult socalled physical cosmologists, these folks are scientists, okay?

So, I looked them up, and you all look them up also.

At the end of the day, whatever and however fantastic they get with their speculations aided by mathematics, they are talking about the universe of which we are part and parcel of, we who have a nose on our face, and who know that babies and roses are in the neighborhood - at least if you ask around.

They all agree that the universe the one where have home in, it has a beginning, some 13.8 billion years ago.*

Okay, dear readers, and in particular my opponents here, what do you say, does the universe we inhabit in have a beginning or not?



*Cf. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=does+the+universe+have+a+beginning


{For your orientation}

God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And here is the OP:
Marius Dejess said:
Title of thread: What I have found out about God.

I have found out that God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And how did I find that out?

By reasoning on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

What is the benefit to me from the concept of God as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning?

It brings me to the certain knowledge that God exists, whereas before I had only the belief that God exists, but not the certain knowledge.

Still I can't get God to talk with me.

{End of post}
 
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