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You God has been replaced by the FSM.
Your soul shall be lifted into the sweet sauce of the afterlife.
R’Amen
Your soul shall be lifted into the sweet sauce of the afterlife.
R’Amen
Dear readers, please read first the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
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Dear readers, and dear my opponents here who are deniers of God's existence, this morning I will concentrate on the universe, the one which is mentioned in my concept of God, namely:
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
Here is one poster, BoomerD, who has several questions addressed to me, one of them is the following:
Dear BoomerD:
My God is co-extensive with existence, now existence is greater than the universe, the universe that is studied by scientists.
So, there is the realm of existence and there is the realm of the universe, that universe which scientists study: and the universe is just a part of existence of which God is also the master as He is the master of existence.
Before God created the universe there was no universe, but there is already existence: and God is co-extensive with existence, or existence is co-extensive with God, except that God is in charge and in control of existence, i.e. God is the master of existence.
There, does that answer your question, dear BoomerD?
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
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Dear readers, and dear my opponents here who are deniers of God's existence, this morning I will concentrate on the universe, the one which is mentioned in my concept of God, namely:
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
Here is one poster, BoomerD, who has several questions addressed to me, one of them is the following:
Dear BoomerD:
My God is co-extensive with existence, now existence is greater than the universe, the universe that is studied by scientists.
So, there is the realm of existence and there is the realm of the universe, that universe which scientists study: and the universe is just a part of existence of which God is also the master as He is the master of existence.
Before God created the universe there was no universe, but there is already existence: and God is co-extensive with existence, or existence is co-extensive with God, except that God is in charge and in control of existence, i.e. God is the master of existence.
There, does that answer your question, dear BoomerD?
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
BudAshes
Lifer
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Dear readers, please read first the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
_________________________
Dear BudAshes, as I say God and existence are co-extensive, except that God is master of existence: He is in charge and in control of existence.
How did God come to be? Simple: He is self-existent.
See if you can and will think honestly intelligently productively on this dictum from me:
Existence is the default status of reality.
So, your question should concentrate on what or who brought about the existence of the universe, the universe which scientists study.
But I also say* that God created the universe, so that before God created the universe there was no universe.
Tell you what, read what scientists say about existence, and report here, okay?
*
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
_________________________
Dear BudAshes, as I say God and existence are co-extensive, except that God is master of existence: He is in charge and in control of existence.
How did God come to be? Simple: He is self-existent.
See if you can and will think honestly intelligently productively on this dictum from me:
Existence is the default status of reality.
So, your question should concentrate on what or who brought about the existence of the universe, the universe which scientists study.
But I also say* that God created the universe, so that before God created the universe there was no universe.
Tell you what, read what scientists say about existence, and report here, okay?
*
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
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A great boil followed by the infinite pasta sauce.
May his spicy seasonings bless you all.
R'Amen
Captante
Lifer
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BudAshes
Lifer
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BudAshes
Lifer
- Jul 20, 2003
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Dear readers, please read first the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
________________________
Now, readers, and in particular my opponents here who are deniers of God's existence, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, yesterday I proposed to BudAshes:
So, this morning I decided to google(all) the following two sentences:
scientists investigate existence
philosophers investigate existence
And you know what I read on the numbers of hits by google(all) for each sentence? Here, see below:
scientists investigate existence
About 80,400,000 results (0.48 seconds)
philosophers investigate existence
About 228,000,000 results (0.33 seconds)
My suspicion from the hits of google is that scientists do not investigate existence as much as philosophers do.
And why? Simple: because scientists are reluctant to go into the biggest subject of all human endeavor to attain the fullest knowledge of reality - because they know that with investigating existence they feel like the proverbial three blind mice.*
In the case of my opponents here, they are completely into taboo and/or phobia on investigating existence, because they know that they will see God eyeball to eyeball when they do investigate existence.
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
*Three blind mice. Three blind mice.
See how they run. See how they run.
They all ran after the farmer’s wife,
Who cut off their tails with a carving knife,
Did you ever see such a sight in your life,
As three blind mice?
{End of post}
________________________
Now, readers, and in particular my opponents here who are deniers of God's existence, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, yesterday I proposed to BudAshes:
So, this morning I decided to google(all) the following two sentences:
scientists investigate existence
philosophers investigate existence
And you know what I read on the numbers of hits by google(all) for each sentence? Here, see below:
scientists investigate existence
About 80,400,000 results (0.48 seconds)
philosophers investigate existence
About 228,000,000 results (0.33 seconds)
My suspicion from the hits of google is that scientists do not investigate existence as much as philosophers do.
And why? Simple: because scientists are reluctant to go into the biggest subject of all human endeavor to attain the fullest knowledge of reality - because they know that with investigating existence they feel like the proverbial three blind mice.*
In the case of my opponents here, they are completely into taboo and/or phobia on investigating existence, because they know that they will see God eyeball to eyeball when they do investigate existence.
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
*Three blind mice. Three blind mice.
See how they run. See how they run.
They all ran after the farmer’s wife,
Who cut off their tails with a carving knife,
Did you ever see such a sight in your life,
As three blind mice?
{End of post}
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the bot is quoting nursery rhymes now.
This bot has failed. Time to retire this one and create another bot that does a better job of spamming.
This bot has failed. Time to retire this one and create another bot that does a better job of spamming.
Dear readers, please read first the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
________________________
Okay, dear readers, and in particular you my dear opponents here, you who deny God's existence, you will recall yesterday that I addressed this text below to you:
Dear readers, it is impossible for humans to resolve an issue unless they first work together: as to concur on the premises involved in understanding the issue of concern.
Now, the present issue in this thread is whether God exists or not.
So, I invite again as I had done earlier, my opponents here, to bring up one premise which they will require me to work with them: as to concur on an end result on the draft of a first premise, just for a first premise - afterwards it will be my turn to propose the next premise for us to work on as to reach agreement on the draft of my proposed premise.
Wherefore, Oh ye my opponents here, Do you have the courage of good faith and intellectual cognitive training and thus skills: to undertake my proposal, that you and I we work together on arriving at concurred on premises: to resolve the issue, God exists or not?
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
________________________
Okay, dear readers, and in particular you my dear opponents here, you who deny God's existence, you will recall yesterday that I addressed this text below to you:
Dear readers, it is impossible for humans to resolve an issue unless they first work together: as to concur on the premises involved in understanding the issue of concern.
Now, the present issue in this thread is whether God exists or not.
So, I invite again as I had done earlier, my opponents here, to bring up one premise which they will require me to work with them: as to concur on an end result on the draft of a first premise, just for a first premise - afterwards it will be my turn to propose the next premise for us to work on as to reach agreement on the draft of my proposed premise.
Wherefore, Oh ye my opponents here, Do you have the courage of good faith and intellectual cognitive training and thus skills: to undertake my proposal, that you and I we work together on arriving at concurred on premises: to resolve the issue, God exists or not?
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
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I thought I'd give it a try.
I don't find it very satisfying.
Dear readers, please read first the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
____________________________________
This morning, dear readers, and in particular my dear opponents, as usual I am very disappointed that you my opponents have not the courage to accept my challenge to you, namely, that you and I undertake the common task to work as to concur on the premises we will agree on, by which we will in complying with, definitively resolve the issue of this thread, namely: God exists or not.
Here is my challenge to you from yesterday's post:
At any event, my dear readers, I will present to you this premise for you to consider - whether you can and will concur with me, on it as one premise which we all human beings which are known as homines sapientes, we must agree on and apply in any exchange of thoughts at all, to wit:
There has always been existence even before the Big Bang and if ever after the Big Bang universe.
In other words, existence is eternal and not subject to any extinction whatsoever, wheresoever, howsoever, etc.
So, dear my opponents here, you are also in all my good faith, invited most keenly from my part: to apply your brain power if any, to think on this premise, namely again:
There has always been existence even before the Big Bang and if ever after the Big Bang universe.
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
____________________________________
This morning, dear readers, and in particular my dear opponents, as usual I am very disappointed that you my opponents have not the courage to accept my challenge to you, namely, that you and I undertake the common task to work as to concur on the premises we will agree on, by which we will in complying with, definitively resolve the issue of this thread, namely: God exists or not.
Here is my challenge to you from yesterday's post:
At any event, my dear readers, I will present to you this premise for you to consider - whether you can and will concur with me, on it as one premise which we all human beings which are known as homines sapientes, we must agree on and apply in any exchange of thoughts at all, to wit:
There has always been existence even before the Big Bang and if ever after the Big Bang universe.
In other words, existence is eternal and not subject to any extinction whatsoever, wheresoever, howsoever, etc.
So, dear my opponents here, you are also in all my good faith, invited most keenly from my part: to apply your brain power if any, to think on this premise, namely again:
There has always been existence even before the Big Bang and if ever after the Big Bang universe.
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
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I think the only Big Bang you know involves several men and some livestock.
Dear readers, please read first the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
____________________________________
So, what do I have for you all, dear readers, and of course my silent opponents who deny God to exist.
First, please read the excerpt below of my yesterday's post, then I will bring you to a new adventure.
What is our adventure for today?
Here it is, a thought experiment - so my opponents if you are thoughtless, then I will understand why you keep silent al the time.
Here is the thought experiment:
1. We all know that physical cosmologists keep on and on and on dividing the universe into more and more and more... parts, all kinds of parts.
2. That is all with their terrific imagination aided with mathematics.
3. From our part let us imagine that they can also extinguish in their imagination aided with mathematics: every components whatsoever at all, like subatomic particles of all sorts, and even laws of physics of their definitions and axiomatizations and forces.
4. Okay, here is what we will tell them.*
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
*Hint, ask them what will happen to existence?
____________________________________
So, what do I have for you all, dear readers, and of course my silent opponents who deny God to exist.
First, please read the excerpt below of my yesterday's post, then I will bring you to a new adventure.
What is our adventure for today?
Here it is, a thought experiment - so my opponents if you are thoughtless, then I will understand why you keep silent al the time.
Here is the thought experiment:
1. We all know that physical cosmologists keep on and on and on dividing the universe into more and more and more... parts, all kinds of parts.
2. That is all with their terrific imagination aided with mathematics.
3. From our part let us imagine that they can also extinguish in their imagination aided with mathematics: every components whatsoever at all, like subatomic particles of all sorts, and even laws of physics of their definitions and axiomatizations and forces.
4. Okay, here is what we will tell them.*
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
*Hint, ask them what will happen to existence?
Dear readers, please read first the quote below under the caption {For your orientation}, you will know what the thread is all about.
____________________________
Yesterday I was challenging everyone, and in most particular my opponents here who are deniers of God's existence, to undertake the thought experiment, see the post excerpt as follows:
I forgot yesterday to mention the multiverse which is a figment of scientists' i.e. physical cosmologists' explanation for the existence of the universe which is our home.
According to their imagination aided with mathematics, in their arbitrary speculation of an 'infinite' number of universes making up the multiverse, it is inevitable that one of them will be our universe.
Voilà, there is the explanation for the existence of our universe.
It is like that in the 'infinite' number grains of sand in the beaches of earth, it is inevitable from probability that one of them will be a grain of gold.
Okay, what do I say about that kind of an argument?
I say, it is pure hogwash.
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
____________________________
Yesterday I was challenging everyone, and in most particular my opponents here who are deniers of God's existence, to undertake the thought experiment, see the post excerpt as follows:
I forgot yesterday to mention the multiverse which is a figment of scientists' i.e. physical cosmologists' explanation for the existence of the universe which is our home.
According to their imagination aided with mathematics, in their arbitrary speculation of an 'infinite' number of universes making up the multiverse, it is inevitable that one of them will be our universe.
Voilà, there is the explanation for the existence of our universe.
It is like that in the 'infinite' number grains of sand in the beaches of earth, it is inevitable from probability that one of them will be a grain of gold.
Okay, what do I say about that kind of an argument?
I say, it is pure hogwash.
{For your orientation}
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.
And here is the OP:
{End of post}
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Captante
Lifer
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The Great ATOT God-Bot Challenge!
Unfortunately there are no winners and its really not that great....
- Oct 10, 1999
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I will see your challenge but it is to be done 1-on-1 in death-match mode using UT99.
Are you up for the challenge, bot?
Captante
Lifer
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