What I have found out about God.

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mopardude87

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100% plus we know from back then that some parts of the planet was pretty advanced while at other places it was still caves and slinging feces. The potential is there... was there... is here... fuck!

A example for my case the first battery. Why would these people need such a object? I think something like this was found in ancient egypt as well.

 
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mopardude87

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God? peiople believe in the almighty mostly out of conditioning, and fear.

Both combined are deadly.

I always preach this, free thinkers are very rare these days. People are now conditioned to believe whatever someone else says. I say fuck all that shit and dogmatism.
 

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Nothing else needs to be said, but that i proudly wear my pentacle and smile when they back up. Why would i want people like this getting close to me at this time?


That catholic who had on no mask and gave me that look who got REAL close before seeing my pendent. One name lady. Kramer you stupid bitch. The man has perhaps the second most deaths under his belt next to hitler. A woman as much as sneeezed and she was murdered as a witch during his time.

 
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If you could find a tribe of humans on planet earth untouched by the information age, how hard would it be make them worship you like a god? Make it “The Truman Show 2.0”? We could all watch this reality show where we would all get to identify as gods, have live polls as to what to what trials to put our subjects through, who needs to sacrifice what son brother etc.... It would be grand.

If we want to laugh at stupid people who believe in fake gods aren't there enough of them here? There's no need to fuck with innocent tribes.
 
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Marius Dejess

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Dear readers, I have decided to put the core thoughts I want to share with you everytime I write a new post, below, see { For your orientation } - instead of at the very top of every post I add to the thread.

The reason is because I am eager to write right away my current ideas to share them with you.

So this morning as I write, it is now May 31, 2020 Sunday, 0719 hours, in my location, and I am keen to tell you this thought in my heart and mind, as follows below.

Scientists in particular what are called physical cosmologists, they are like ancient Greek thinkers, seeking further and further and further the most most most elementary components of the material universe.

But they know that they will never come to the end of their search.

Why? Because there is no end to their search as their brain/mind is limited - our brain/mind is limited.

And why is our brain/mind limited?

Simple: Because we, I mean today's scientists socalled, they have stuck their brain in under the sand as with the proverbial ostrich, in order to not see what they fear or have this taboo or phobia, to encounter - if they just let their brain out above the sand in the beach.

And what will scientists see if they lift their heads above out of the beach sand?

They will see the ultimate big picture of existence, so that:

They realize that existence is the default status of reality.

And what is reality?

What is reality?

Start with babies and roses in our neighborhood, they did not create themselves, but when we think about it, ultimately God made them, created them, God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

Now, dear readers, do you notice how my deniers of God’s existence, that they are always into vacuity with their posts in this thread.

They should have lifted their heads above the beach sand, and admire everything, starting with babies and roses in their neighborhood.

In the course of this thread there have been some of my opponents mentioning that I have to give demonstration, proof, evidence for the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

You know what?

Since they bring in the words: demonstration, proof, evidence, I tell them:

As you bring in such technical terms like: demonstration, proof, evidence, then you have the privilege to expatiate on the concepts behind each of them three words: demonstration, proof, evidence.

You know what happens all the time:

The run away!

You see, they can't or worse, they won't engage in honest intelligent productive thinking, in order to present what they should know if at all they know - about what is demonstration, proof, evidence.

Briefly, the deniers of God, my opponents here, they don't think at all, but drop names, terms, links, to no purpose except to hope that readers would be impressed by their vacuous inutile rote memory learning, which they swallow by the mouthful: but never digested and assimilated, because what they swallow by the mouthful, all of it is mere sand under which they bury their heads.

Now, dear readers, please look at babies and roses in your neighborhood, and think this thought:

Existence is the default status of reality.

And you will come ultimately to God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, and that not on belief - aka as faith with the deniers of God existing, i.e. my opponents here.



{ For your orientation }
God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And here is the OP:
Marius Dejess said:

Title of thread: What I have found out about God.

I have found out that God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And how did I find that out?

By reasoning on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

What is the benefit to me from the concept of God as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning?

It brings me to the certain knowledge that God exists, whereas before I had only the belief that God exists, but not the certain knowledge.

Still I can't get God to talk with me.
 

Captante

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Dear readers, I have decided to put the core thoughts I want to share with you everytime I write a new post, below, see { For your orientation } - instead of at the very top of every post I add to the thread.

The reason is because I am eager to write right away my current ideas to share them with you.

So this morning as I write, it is now May 31, 2020 Sunday, 0719 hours, in my location, and I am keen to tell you this thought in my heart and mind, as follows below.

Scientists in particular what are called physical cosmologists, they are like ancient Greek thinkers, seeking further and further and further the most most most elementary components of the material universe.

But they know that they will never come to the end of their search.

Why? Because there is no end to their search as their brain/mind is limited - our brain/mind is limited.

And why is our brain/mind limited?

Simple: Because we, I mean today's scientists socalled, they have stuck their brain in under the sand as with the proverbial ostrich, in order to not see what they fear or have this taboo or phobia, to encounter - if they just let their brain out above the sand in the beach.

And what will scientists see if they lift their heads above out of the beach sand?

They will see the ultimate big picture of existence, so that:

They realize that existence is the default status of reality.

And what is reality?

What is reality?

Start with babies and roses in our neighborhood, they did not create themselves, but when we think about it, ultimately God made them, created them, God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

Now, dear readers, do you notice how my deniers of God’s existence, that they are always into vacuity with their posts in this thread.

They should have lifted their heads above the beach sand, and admire everything, starting with babies and roses in their neighborhood.

In the course of this thread there have been some of my opponents mentioning that I have to give demonstration, proof, evidence for the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

You know what?

Since they bring in the words: demonstration, proof, evidence, I tell them:

As you bring in such technical terms like: demonstration, proof, evidence, then you have the privilege to expatiate on the concepts behind each of them three words: demonstration, proof, evidence.

You know what happens all the time:

The run away!

You see, they can't or worse, they won't engage in honest intelligent productive thinking, in order to present what they should know if at all they know - about what is demonstration, proof, evidence.

Briefly, the deniers of God, my opponents here, they don't think at all, but drop names, terms, links, to no purpose except to hope that readers would be impressed by their vacuous inutile rote memory learning, which they swallow by the mouthful: but never digested and assimilated, because what they swallow by the mouthful, all of it is mere sand under which they bury their heads.

Now, dear readers, please look at babies and roses in your neighborhood, and think this thought:

Existence is the default status of reality.

And you will come ultimately to God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, and that not on belief - aka as faith with the deniers of God existing, i.e. my opponents here.



{ For your orientation }



TL/DR ;)
 

sandorski

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Dear readers, I have decided to put the core thoughts I want to share with you everytime I write a new post, below, see { For your orientation } - instead of at the very top of every post I add to the thread.

The reason is because I am eager to write right away my current ideas to share them with you.

So this morning as I write, it is now May 31, 2020 Sunday, 0719 hours, in my location, and I am keen to tell you this thought in my heart and mind, as follows below.

Scientists in particular what are called physical cosmologists, they are like ancient Greek thinkers, seeking further and further and further the most most most elementary components of the material universe.

But they know that they will never come to the end of their search.

Why? Because there is no end to their search as their brain/mind is limited - our brain/mind is limited.

And why is our brain/mind limited?

Simple: Because we, I mean today's scientists socalled, they have stuck their brain in under the sand as with the proverbial ostrich, in order to not see what they fear or have this taboo or phobia, to encounter - if they just let their brain out above the sand in the beach.

And what will scientists see if they lift their heads above out of the beach sand?

They will see the ultimate big picture of existence, so that:

They realize that existence is the default status of reality.

And what is reality?

What is reality?

Start with babies and roses in our neighborhood, they did not create themselves, but when we think about it, ultimately God made them, created them, God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

Now, dear readers, do you notice how my deniers of God’s existence, that they are always into vacuity with their posts in this thread.

They should have lifted their heads above the beach sand, and admire everything, starting with babies and roses in their neighborhood.

In the course of this thread there have been some of my opponents mentioning that I have to give demonstration, proof, evidence for the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

You know what?

Since they bring in the words: demonstration, proof, evidence, I tell them:

As you bring in such technical terms like: demonstration, proof, evidence, then you have the privilege to expatiate on the concepts behind each of them three words: demonstration, proof, evidence.

You know what happens all the time:

The run away!

You see, they can't or worse, they won't engage in honest intelligent productive thinking, in order to present what they should know if at all they know - about what is demonstration, proof, evidence.

Briefly, the deniers of God, my opponents here, they don't think at all, but drop names, terms, links, to no purpose except to hope that readers would be impressed by their vacuous inutile rote memory learning, which they swallow by the mouthful: but never digested and assimilated, because what they swallow by the mouthful, all of it is mere sand under which they bury their heads.

Now, dear readers, please look at babies and roses in your neighborhood, and think this thought:

Existence is the default status of reality.

And you will come ultimately to God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, and that not on belief - aka as faith with the deniers of God existing, i.e. my opponents here.



{ For your orientation }

Nah, they just tire of your nonsense.
 
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Dear readers, I have decided to put the core thoughts I want to share with you everytime I write a new post, below, see { For your orientation } - instead of at the very top of every post I add to the thread.

The reason is because I am eager to write right away my current ideas to share them with you.

So this morning as I write, it is now May 31, 2020 Sunday, 0719 hours, in my location, and I am keen to tell you this thought in my heart and mind, as follows below.

Scientists in particular what are called physical cosmologists, they are like ancient Greek thinkers, seeking further and further and further the most most most elementary components of the material universe.

But they know that they will never come to the end of their search.

Why? Because there is no end to their search as their brain/mind is limited - our brain/mind is limited.

And why is our brain/mind limited?

Simple: Because we, I mean today's scientists socalled, they have stuck their brain in under the sand as with the proverbial ostrich, in order to not see what they fear or have this taboo or phobia, to encounter - if they just let their brain out above the sand in the beach.

And what will scientists see if they lift their heads above out of the beach sand?

They will see the ultimate big picture of existence, so that:

They realize that existence is the default status of reality.

And what is reality?

What is reality?

Start with babies and roses in our neighborhood, they did not create themselves, but when we think about it, ultimately God made them, created them, God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

Now, dear readers, do you notice how my deniers of God’s existence, that they are always into vacuity with their posts in this thread.

They should have lifted their heads above the beach sand, and admire everything, starting with babies and roses in their neighborhood.

In the course of this thread there have been some of my opponents mentioning that I have to give demonstration, proof, evidence for the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

You know what?

Since they bring in the words: demonstration, proof, evidence, I tell them:

As you bring in such technical terms like: demonstration, proof, evidence, then you have the privilege to expatiate on the concepts behind each of them three words: demonstration, proof, evidence.

You know what happens all the time:

The run away!

You see, they can't or worse, they won't engage in honest intelligent productive thinking, in order to present what they should know if at all they know - about what is demonstration, proof, evidence.

Briefly, the deniers of God, my opponents here, they don't think at all, but drop names, terms, links, to no purpose except to hope that readers would be impressed by their vacuous inutile rote memory learning, which they swallow by the mouthful: but never digested and assimilated, because what they swallow by the mouthful, all of it is mere sand under which they bury their heads.

Now, dear readers, please look at babies and roses in your neighborhood, and think this thought:

Existence is the default status of reality.

And you will come ultimately to God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, and that not on belief - aka as faith with the deniers of God existing, i.e. my opponents here.



{ For your orientation }
Dear Marius Dejees,

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admin allisolm
 
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Dear readers, I have decided to put the core thoughts I want to share with you everytime I write a new post, below, see { For your orientation } - instead of at the very top of every post I add to the thread.

The reason is because I am eager to write right away my current ideas to share them with you.

So this morning as I write, it is now May 31, 2020 Sunday, 0719 hours, in my location, and I am keen to tell you this thought in my heart and mind, as follows below.

Scientists in particular what are called physical cosmologists, they are like ancient Greek thinkers, seeking further and further and further the most most most elementary components of the material universe.

But they know that they will never come to the end of their search.

Why? Because there is no end to their search as their brain/mind is limited - our brain/mind is limited.

And why is our brain/mind limited?

Simple: Because we, I mean today's scientists socalled, they have stuck their brain in under the sand as with the proverbial ostrich, in order to not see what they fear or have this taboo or phobia, to encounter - if they just let their brain out above the sand in the beach.

And what will scientists see if they lift their heads above out of the beach sand?

They will see the ultimate big picture of existence, so that:

They realize that existence is the default status of reality.

And what is reality?

What is reality?

Start with babies and roses in our neighborhood, they did not create themselves, but when we think about it, ultimately God made them, created them, God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

Now, dear readers, do you notice how my deniers of God’s existence, that they are always into vacuity with their posts in this thread.

They should have lifted their heads above the beach sand, and admire everything, starting with babies and roses in their neighborhood.

In the course of this thread there have been some of my opponents mentioning that I have to give demonstration, proof, evidence for the existence of God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

You know what?

Since they bring in the words: demonstration, proof, evidence, I tell them:

As you bring in such technical terms like: demonstration, proof, evidence, then you have the privilege to expatiate on the concepts behind each of them three words: demonstration, proof, evidence.

You know what happens all the time:

The run away!

You see, they can't or worse, they won't engage in honest intelligent productive thinking, in order to present what they should know if at all they know - about what is demonstration, proof, evidence.

Briefly, the deniers of God, my opponents here, they don't think at all, but drop names, terms, links, to no purpose except to hope that readers would be impressed by their vacuous inutile rote memory learning, which they swallow by the mouthful: but never digested and assimilated, because what they swallow by the mouthful, all of it is mere sand under which they bury their heads.

Now, dear readers, please look at babies and roses in your neighborhood, and think this thought:

Existence is the default status of reality.

And you will come ultimately to God, in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, and that not on belief - aka as faith with the deniers of God existing, i.e. my opponents here.



{ For your orientation }
I was going to respond by saying that the ones whose minds are limited are the religious minds whose constant focus is not on increased knowledge for the sake of knowledge but are instead stuck in the "God did it mode". Explaining the universe doesn't diminish it's awesomeness or beauty. Science isn't constrained by religious dogma but only by those who wish to challenge science as defying their God.

Instead, I will respond by asking the bot to just stop already or at least post some links to spam sites.
 

mopardude87

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I believe in the big bang theory, right down to most science. I don't excuse evolution either. we just evolved to a point where i think it MAY have been possible there were super humans portraying themselves as gods. Have to admit, as we get older as a species we sure are getting more stupid. Think about all the brilliant minds of old, makes ya think just maybe? I think dormant parts of the brain were unlocked during ancient times and just MAYBE they were able to do things like you see in those movie cliches. Its a theory of course.

About "spirituality" i did see something when i was 13, and well in my beliefs 13 is the number of change and well at the same time there was 7 others who saw the same. I was forced catholic at this time as well and right after that it all changed. What i saw may confirm a place where these "deities" of old resign. I pray to the energies they left behind. Like the ones i saw. Some can feel these and i feel multiple. I doubt they will let most of you see them but some claim to have seen Jesus so who knows..... . This may explain the need for religion as people pick up on these energies they attract to but i got a hard time believing in any sorta physical manifestation of a god coming back.

Can't excuse spirituality nor can you excuse science, i found a balance but luckily for me it happened cause of actual experiences.Somethings you just need to see something to change your views on everything. If i didn't see what i did when i was 13 ,i MAY be a bible thumping catholic today.
 
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A example for my case the first battery. Why would these people need such a object? I think something like this was found in ancient egypt as well.


Do you even read the drivel you post? Actually, better question, are you capable of understanding the drivel you post even if you did bother to read it? You're like the bad guy in a Trix commercial, you can be fooled by EVERYTHING.

From the very link you posted:

The artifacts strongly resemble another type of object with a known purpose – storage vessels for sacred scrolls from nearby Seleucia on the Tigris.Since these vessels were exposed to the elements it is possible that any papyrus or parchment inside had completely rotted away, perhaps leaving a trace of slightly acidic organic residue.Although the Seleucia vessels do not have the outermost clay jar, they are otherwise almost identical.


In March 2012, Professor Elizabeth Stone of Stony Brook University, an expert on Iraqi archaeology, returning from the first archaeological expedition in Iraq after 20 years, stated that she does not know a single archaeologist who believed that these were batteries.
 

Mai72

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I always preach this, free thinkers are very rare these days. People are now conditioned to believe whatever someone else says. I say fuck all that shit and dogmatism.

Well it goes back to tribalism, and people wanting to belong. That is my first point. Second, people don't want to think, especially critically think. They take things presented to them as factual. It happens everywhere. Critical thought is hard, and it often requires a paradigm shift which for many aren't able to do. And, of course fear and conditioning play a part. Who wants to burn in hell for eternity? Sounds scarty and awful. And, for many since their family is a Christain I'm a Christain. There are people who break free, but it's not many.
 
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Another Rune btw yet we get bluetooth, something that works but can't be seen or touched.

Name and logo
Name
The name Bluetooth is an Anglicised version of the Scandinavian Blåtand/Blåtann (Old Norse blátǫnn), the epithet of the tenth-century king Harald Bluetooth who united dissonant Danish tribes into a single kingdom. The implication is that Bluetooth unites communication protocols.[12]
The idea of this name was proposed in 1997 by Jim Kardach of Intel, who developed a system that would allow mobile phones to communicate with computers.[13] At the time of this proposal he was reading Frans G. Bengtsson's historical novel The Long Ships about Vikings and King Harald Bluetooth.[14][15]
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The Bluetooth logo Bluetooth FM Color.png is a bind rune merging the Younger Futhark runes Runic letter ior.svg (ᚼ, Hagall) and Runic letter berkanan.svg (ᛒ, Bjarkan), Harald's initials.[16][17]

There are lots of things that can't be seen or touched. Nothing mysterious about that.
 

mopardude87

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There are lots of things that can't be seen or touched. Nothing mysterious about that.

Exactly! It would certainly appear that way cause that is what we are used to. :) Fine by me but i know what the technology for what it is honestly . End of day its working the same but seriously take this back 2000 years and we would all be gods for even turning on a computer.
 

Marius Dejess

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Dear readers, thanks for your presence, please look up the quote below, namely, under the caption { For your orientation }, to acquaint yourselves with what this thread is all about.

Now, assuming that you come here as non-partisan folks, but keen to know how fellow humans have come to the certain knowledge – as opposed to mere belief or faith, have come to the certain knowledge that God exists, God in concept as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning . . .

I propose that you and I, we concur on premises, by which premises we will come to the certain knowledge of the existence of God or not.

For now:

No. 1 premise, namely, that you have read from me that God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning, will you just maintain that concept in your honest intelligent mind, even though you don’t admit at this point in time that the concept of concern is any meaningful thought at all.

No. 2 premise, that you know of babies and roses in your community, yes, no?

I will let you think over these two premises, and I will return tomorrow morning - my date and time in my location now is June 1, 2020 Monday 0721 hours, to notice if you accept the two premises, or you have questions, or you want me to read your comments, okay?

{ For your orientation }

God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And here is the OP:
Marius Dejess said:
Title of thread: What I have found out about God.

I have found out that God in concept is the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning.

And how did I find that out?

By reasoning on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.

What is the benefit to me from the concept of God as the creator cause of man and the universe and everything with a beginning?

It brings me to the certain knowledge that God exists, whereas before I had only the belief that God exists, but not the certain knowledge.

Still I can't get God to talk with me.
{ End of post }
 
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So anyone interested on an over/under for how many pages of reposts we can milk this annoying thing for?

:p