What happens when food stamps are a day late?

[First]

Because it's a fucked up system that encourages unproductivity. See: BoberFett

Fair enough, though I imagine most people wouldn't take that paycut. Obviously you'd agree that if unemployment paid a dollar annually nobody would use it but if it paid your full previous salary a lot more people would use it. I think 1/3rd salary is probably a pretty reasonable balance between the two, cause too much less and you'd start to miss payments, all cause of a temporary setback (laid off) simply due to, say, a horrid economy. That's not all that fair or sensible economically to be put in such a rut, plus unemployment isn't a top 10 driver of debt anyway.

24 bucks an hour, at least 10 hrs of OT a week, TWO retirement plans(pension & annuity, 30 yrs in I would have been collecting closer to 200k a year) and amazing health insurance. why? because they billed me out at a much higher pay scale(basically charging what they charged for foremen) and refused to pay me for the responsibility they were giving me. i really just didn't give a fuck, i still don't.

Ah I see, though I actually meant what did you give up annually/benefits compared to what you have now, or are you saying you took a $24/hr paycut? Which is crazy to me, but hey, more power to ya.

 

[JSt0rm]

I work for myself.

 

[Lanyap]

FACT: Although one in four children under 18 receives welfare benefits

Wut? I didn't realize it was this bad. We have no hope.

 

[bfdd]

Fair enough, though I imagine most people wouldn't take that paycut. Obviously you'd agree that if unemployment paid a dollar annually nobody would use it but if it paid your full previous salary a lot more people would use it. I think 1/3rd salary is probably a pretty reasonable balance between the two, cause too much less and you'd start to miss payments, all cause of a temporary setback (laid off) simply due to, say, a horrid economy. That's not all that fair or sensible economically to be put in such a rut, plus unemployment isn't a top 10 driver of debt anyway.



Ah I see, though I actually meant what did you give up annually/benefits compared to what you have now, or are you saying you took a $24/hr paycut? Which is crazy to me, but hey, more power to ya.

I make slightly less than 50k, working less hours and pay more for my benefits. Before I was making over 70k, plus way better benefits and pension + annuity vs 401k. That was like 2 years in the business? lols at idiots not wanting to do manual labor

Though it took me about a year to go from that job to this job, I did take a direct pay cut in the terms of no benefits, no retirement and 12 bucks an hour cash. Working for a tile contractor just like an illegal would.

 

[JSt0rm]

I make slightly less than 50k, working less hours and pay more for my benefits. Before I was making over 70k, plus way better benefits and pension + annuity vs 401k. That was like 2 years in the business? lols at idiots not wanting to do manual labor

Though it took me about a year to go from that job to this job, I did take a direct pay cut in the terms of no benefits, no retirement and 12 bucks an hour cash. Working for a tile contractor just like an illegal would.

suuuucks for you.

 

[bfdd]

suuuucks for you.

sure if i had been fired, i quit.

 

[JSt0rm]

sure if i had been fired, i quit.

So now u make $12 an hour putting in tile?

 

[JSt0rm]

look im not trying to diss blue collar workers. Hell I used to be one but you all need to have some perspective on what weird demands you have of our economy and shit. I'm only an expert on 1 or maybe 2 things and neither of them are macro economic policy. I'm also not a expert on installing tile and I wouldnt begin to know where to start doing something like that. I would defer to you about installing tile just as I would defer to my doctor about my health. I may ask for second or third opinions but I certainly wouldnt ask someone who installs tile to fix the economy or a doctor to instal tile in my house.

When I see people with so little economic activity making demands for sweeping radical reform of very complex systems my ears perk up. I understand that there must be GREAT complexity in those systems and to just let a person who, no offense, installs tile or is in a computer IT type of job try to make that policy is BAD.

 

[WackyDan]

What? There is no part of my position where I make that claim.

Women on welfare tend to make poor decisions. These women would be likely to not purchase birth control, either intentionally or non-intentionally. I SUPPORT free birth control for women on welfare because lifestyler or not, I don't want women on welfare having more children. I'm not comfortable forcing them to not have more children, but I am comfortable with paying a little extra to make it easier and more convenient for women on welfare to avoid having more children if they so desire, in the knowledge that this is best for me as a taxpayer and also in line with their own desires to not have more children, at least while on welfare.

Many state give away free birth control. Even when that is free, they don't partake...we are all adults here... and I suppose depending on your generation, have different views on condoms, etc. People take risks all the time, and one of the most common is ignoring birth control... And it doesn't matter if they are poor or rich.

So the bottom line is this... Stop rewarding them for breeding and you solve part of the problem. Stop letting them get a tax return for income they never had, etc.

No, it isn't that simple... we need to devise some way to improve inner city schools, curb gang influence, increase the participation of the fathers in their child's life, and bring jobs back to the US...

It won't happen in my lifetime.

 

[JSt0rm]

are we done in here? Off to jibber jabber in another meaningless thread about our collective uninformed views? lol. idiots.

 

[BoberFett]

Off to jibber jabber in another meaningless thread about our collective uninformed views?

Sounds right up your alley, moron.

 

[JSt0rm]

Sounds right up your alley, moron.

Of course. In politics and news the unemployed vet who would be able to work a 90k job if he so chose is smart and I'm a moron. :biggrin:

 

[Budmantom]

look im not trying to diss blue collar workers. Hell I used to be one but you all need to have some perspective on what weird demands you have of our economy and shit. I'm only an expert on 1 or maybe 2 things and neither of them are macro economic policy. I'm also not a expert on installing tile and I wouldnt begin to know where to start doing something like that. I would defer to you about installing tile just as I would defer to my doctor about my health. I may ask for second or third opinions but I certainly wouldnt ask someone who installs tile to fix the economy or a doctor to instal tile in my house.

When I see people with so little economic activity making demands for sweeping radical reform of very complex systems my ears perk up. I understand that there must be GREAT complexity in those systems and to just let a person who, no offense, installs tile or is in a computer IT type of job try to make that policy is BAD.

You must sleep well at night knowing that we have a heavy-weight like Obama running our economy.

 

[JSt0rm]

You must sleep well at night knowing that we have a heavy-weight like Obama running our economy.

I sleep well at night knowing I have the ability to survive in this modern society.

 

[BarneyFife]

lol@$12 tile installers being Republicans. Thats how fucked up this country is.

 

[Ausm]

lol@$12 tile installers being Republicans. Thats how fucked up this country is.

The perfect example a LOW information voter which the GOP LOVES.

 

[Chaosblade02]

If Bachman or Perry take over, would they hand out "Retard Bucks"? Would tent cities and other homeless enclaves be called Perryvilles or Bachmancamps?

We could just simply call it teatardlandia.

I am incredibly biased toward the tea party because they asked me to leave from a rally for holding up a sign saying "Vote out the Zionists". But its alright to hold up a sign saying "Immigrants should learn to speak ARE language". I saw more than one sign that butchered up the real English language. You Liberals are right about one thing, the tea party really is a bunch of morons. What do you call it when someone organizes a bunch of people from all of the local trailer parks? A tea party rally.

 

[BarneyFife]

The perfect example a LOW information voter which the GOP LOVES.

Exactly. They throw in a few social issues at them "You're white, the democrats are the party that helps blacks" and crap like that and you got a tile guy defending insurance/oil holding the country hostage just because of his hatred for blacks.

 

[Nebor]

The perfect example a LOW information voter which the GOP LOVES.

There are people that don't make a lot of money that oppose wealth redistribution & social programs on principle. They don't want anything they personally haven't earned.

Your post comes across as, "These people are so dumb they don't even know about the bribes the democrats will offer them for their votes!"

 

[BoberFett]

There are people that don't make a lot of money that oppose wealth redistribution & social programs on principle. They don't want anything they personally haven't earned.

Your post comes across as, "These people are so dumb they don't even know about the bribes the democrats will offer them for their votes!"

It's funny, Democrats call Republicans greedy, but they're the party that's all about what they can get from other people.

 

[xj0hnx]

The perfect example a LOW information voter which the GOP LOVES.

So how much information a person knows is determined by how much money they make? Why do you hate the poor so much?

 

[Nebor]

Why do you hate the poor so much?

That's a silly question. Pretty much everyone hates poor people.

 

[JSt0rm]

It's funny, Democrats call Republicans greedy, but they're the party that's all about what they can get from other people.

You really should just leave this thread. ,you look weird coming in here and saying something like that.

 

[pau1]

es, because those on food stamps are well-known for their superb diet habits, food selections, and portion sizing. If it were up to me, I'd do away with food stamps altogether and substitute a CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) subscription for their SNAP benefit card. Of course if we did that, many of them might starve to death because they'd have no idea what to do with real food.

I will say it. They aren't entitled to jack shit. Saying they are
Entitled to food means Somebody else is obligated to give it to them.

If people are entitled to food, then why the fuck do I have to pay for mine?

They are entitled to obtain food just like everyone else. They are also blessed with the charity we choose to give them. This family obviously believes that gift is a right.

Lets refer to them as a group and not individuals each with their own story. Judge them as a group harshly and ignorantly and soon you sound like a nazi and lose all credibility. I can foresee walls forming and civil war between haves and have nots along with domestic terrorism. I can assure u civil war is much more devastating to all of society than choosing to feed the individuals that genuinely need it.

The people not genuinely needing food assistance should be questioned/interviewed and the source of their actions should be listened to. Is it laziness or giving a finger to the rest of society because they refuse to believe/accept their living in a democracy. If it is laziness is it due to not getting access to health care and caused by chonic fatigue syndrome or depression.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=chronic-fatigue-syndrome-retrovirus

How ignorant are u guys about the possible origins of chronic fatigue?? or what you may call laziness.

 

[JSt0rm]

How ignorant are u guys about the possible origins of chronic fatigue?? or what you may call laziness.

1. They hate science and think it is the devils work.

2. They will take public assistance themselves and rail against others who do it.