I wasn't going to acknowledge such a worthless post, but I think I will.
Funny, she doesn't look like my right hand.
fixed link there.. yeah.. she looks like something you could get.
Cease on the personal attacks noob.
Cease on the personal attacks noob.
Did you join the Anandtech forums just to troll or are you a returning member who doesn't have the balls to post under your real screenname?
waggy
No Lifer
- Dec 14, 2000
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Boy you are really a idiot.
really you are comparing someone that is exercising there rights to the Nazi's? You really have no clue do you?
A tip is based on service. IT IS NOT MANDATORY. So by NOT doing something that is voluntary he is a Nazi?
I have seen some really dumb post but this is by far the dumbest.
Fvck waiters and their overpaid wages (I know friends who made $10+ an hour while I bagged groceries for $6). I'll tip about 5-10% because that's all you deserve for a simple, uneducated job.
I understand you depend on tips, which is fine, so I'll tip you. But I'm not going to tip you much; show me evidence that you make less than $6 an hour after tips and I'll increase my tip %.
I understand you depend on tips, which is fine, so I'll tip you. But I'm not going to tip you much; show me evidence that you make less than $6 an hour after tips and I'll increase my tip %.
eh, i'm not really here to troll. i've been reading on atot for about a year, just signed up recently.. and i've developed a distaste for you. plus i just wanted to have some fun. also, i'm not just talking about a general someone. i was specifically talking to nik. boy you really are an idiot. and speaking of nazi's.. not that i follow the punctuation rules of english. but i do abide by making cogent sentences. "really you are comparing someone that is exercising there rights to the Nazi's?" .. that doesnt make sense buddy. if you were to say "are you really comparing..." that would be a lot better. also, the word "there" is used for location. "they're" is a contraction.. means "they are", and "their" is a possessive form of the genderless pronoun "they". also, when you are talking about "posts" use the word "posts" not "post", if you are not a native speaker of english, then this will do you for a good grammar lesson, sans the punctuation. if you are a native speaker, this will do you for a good brush up. also, they recently located the part in the brain which interprets sarcasm.. maybe you can see a specialist to get that checked out?
I don't see what the big deal is. If the service is good, you tip as a way of saying thank you. If the service is horrible, you leave little to no tip to let them know they should clean up their act. To leave no tip regardless of service removes the incentive aspect of a waiter's job.
Really, tipping is the epitome of capitalism (where it's not mandatory). Refusing to tip regardless of service is just rude and self-defeating. You expect service, but aren't willing to reward it.
I guess that's fine, but don't complain about crappy service when all the waiters know to avoid you due to your ungrateful attitude. If you have a problem with it, eat at home. It's cheaper anyway.
Really, tipping is the epitome of capitalism (where it's not mandatory). Refusing to tip regardless of service is just rude and self-defeating. You expect service, but aren't willing to reward it.
I guess that's fine, but don't complain about crappy service when all the waiters know to avoid you due to your ungrateful attitude. If you have a problem with it, eat at home. It's cheaper anyway.
Scarpozzi
Lifer
- Jun 13, 2000
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I wish the government would regulate the service industries more. If they would make the restaurants pay the employees a higher wage to compensate for less tips and just charge us on the front end, it'd be a little better and I'd feel ok about NOT tipping. Unfortunately for the servers though, they get paid $2.13-2.15 an hour on average and end up bringing home nothing but tips...could be anywhere from $10-100 depending on how busy the place is, food prices, and how many cheap @ssholes are served.
Platypus
Lifer
- Apr 26, 2001
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I always tip something, that amount is variable to the amount of service received.
Pizza guys always get a good tip because they're saving me my time and gas to bring something to me. They obviously work there to earn money for something (around here, college) and taking care of their gas and time ensures that they have expendable income so they can put money away for the things that matter in their life. Plus they work late as hell for my benefit, yeah I pay a little bit more than if I had gone there myself, but that's SERVICE and it deserves monetary respect.
Restaurants I always leave something, I've only left 0 once and the waitress was a cvnt who was extremely rude to us because she was having a bad night, normally I leave these people like 50 cents or something but she yelled at me for asking for more water after not visiting my table for 15 minutes. These people as others have said earn a living that way, though it is kind of ridiculous that this service is expected from the consumer, it's not the employee's fault and they deserve retribution.
The system is corrupt but then again so is everything else in the world, I'm not about to take out my anger towards the system on some 18 year old girl because I don't believe in it. It lacks tact.
Pizza guys always get a good tip because they're saving me my time and gas to bring something to me. They obviously work there to earn money for something (around here, college) and taking care of their gas and time ensures that they have expendable income so they can put money away for the things that matter in their life. Plus they work late as hell for my benefit, yeah I pay a little bit more than if I had gone there myself, but that's SERVICE and it deserves monetary respect.
Restaurants I always leave something, I've only left 0 once and the waitress was a cvnt who was extremely rude to us because she was having a bad night, normally I leave these people like 50 cents or something but she yelled at me for asking for more water after not visiting my table for 15 minutes. These people as others have said earn a living that way, though it is kind of ridiculous that this service is expected from the consumer, it's not the employee's fault and they deserve retribution.
The system is corrupt but then again so is everything else in the world, I'm not about to take out my anger towards the system on some 18 year old girl because I don't believe in it. It lacks tact.
I don't think I have. I'm still a little confused as to the situation though. I've seen it for "parties of X" and "bills of" added and such but I don't think I have ever been asked.
There is always a place on my bill to add the tip or I leave it on the table.
Did the server ask for the tip because the spot was blank? Is it a pay at the counter type of place where he was asked while adding up the bill?
lol that's never happened to me...i took my 3 closest friends out to ruth's chris for graduation, and they treated us like adults...
though they were keen enough to withhold the wine menu, lol
Nik,
I notice that there's a pic of her and you? going to a formal... Dated last year. Well uploaded last year anyway. So you're basically what? 18 or 19? That explains much. The sooner you come to the realization that "what goes around comes around" you'll be a much less bitter person. I'm going to give you a 2nd free TIP too... you and your infinite wisdom (must be from all those years of experience) are not going to change the world. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you just aren't that special. Well not in that way anyway...
And I for one, would never go to a restaurant with you, as I'd be too embarassed to be seen with your cheap @ss. Well, not and let you pay anyway. I'd feel too bad for the poor people who wait on your cheap @ss and got shafted. And don't try to come back and say you tip. A scenario was presented, and you already said you'd tip nothing. And frankly that's all it is, you're cheap. You've taken this psuedo-intellectual stance to justify it, but it just doesn't hold water. I'll repeat -- you are cheap. Recognize it. Accept it. And maybe even embrace it.
BTW, I don't think it should be mandatory, but it IS expected. Look up the definition of the word. It has little to do with what is right and wrong in this sense. Nor does it have anything to do with how things should be. But I would be upset, if they decided what I should pay... However when I go to a restaurant I EXPECT to tip. How much is up to me. I go in with this EXPECTATION in mind. I am bright enough to realize this, and figure this into my EXPECTED total bill before I enter. Only in your mind, does the thought that the big bad money hungry and apparently supremely profitable restaurant SHOULD pay them more give you the justifications to stick it to "the little people" who aren't making jack. You're sticking it to the wrong people because of your warped views. And "they should just get a better job" is pretty warped too...
BTW, how are your customer's getting 110% when you're on here constantly??? 23+ posts a day... 41,744 posts in less than 5 years. Sounds to me like you need to fire yourself.
But none-the-less, thank you for a most entertaining read.
Others,
Nik's not going to listen. He doesn't want to... He's bitter. He's cheap. Leave him alone and let him live in his little fantasy "Nik's World". You're just egging him on. He "thinks" he's right, and no argument based on emotion nor logic is going to change that.
I notice that there's a pic of her and you? going to a formal... Dated last year. Well uploaded last year anyway. So you're basically what? 18 or 19? That explains much. The sooner you come to the realization that "what goes around comes around" you'll be a much less bitter person. I'm going to give you a 2nd free TIP too... you and your infinite wisdom (must be from all those years of experience) are not going to change the world. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you just aren't that special. Well not in that way anyway...
And I for one, would never go to a restaurant with you, as I'd be too embarassed to be seen with your cheap @ss. Well, not and let you pay anyway. I'd feel too bad for the poor people who wait on your cheap @ss and got shafted. And don't try to come back and say you tip. A scenario was presented, and you already said you'd tip nothing. And frankly that's all it is, you're cheap. You've taken this psuedo-intellectual stance to justify it, but it just doesn't hold water. I'll repeat -- you are cheap. Recognize it. Accept it. And maybe even embrace it.
BTW, I don't think it should be mandatory, but it IS expected. Look up the definition of the word. It has little to do with what is right and wrong in this sense. Nor does it have anything to do with how things should be. But I would be upset, if they decided what I should pay... However when I go to a restaurant I EXPECT to tip. How much is up to me. I go in with this EXPECTATION in mind. I am bright enough to realize this, and figure this into my EXPECTED total bill before I enter. Only in your mind, does the thought that the big bad money hungry and apparently supremely profitable restaurant SHOULD pay them more give you the justifications to stick it to "the little people" who aren't making jack. You're sticking it to the wrong people because of your warped views. And "they should just get a better job" is pretty warped too...
BTW, how are your customer's getting 110% when you're on here constantly??? 23+ posts a day... 41,744 posts in less than 5 years. Sounds to me like you need to fire yourself.
But none-the-less, thank you for a most entertaining read.
Others,
Nik's not going to listen. He doesn't want to... He's bitter. He's cheap. Leave him alone and let him live in his little fantasy "Nik's World". You're just egging him on. He "thinks" he's right, and no argument based on emotion nor logic is going to change that.
Red Dawn
Elite Member
- Jun 4, 2001
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If Nik came in a place were I was bartending and he didn't leave me a tip but he wasn't being an obnoxious drunk I wouldn't care, there are plenty of others who'll tip enough to make up for it. Of course those are the customers that usually get a round or two on the house and never have to wait to get a refill.
Corn
Diamond Member
- Nov 12, 1999
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Nik's problem is that *he* just doesn't get it. While his cheap ass is whining about the waitstaff *expecting* a tip I suppose he's just too stupidly stubborn to understand that that is the currently *accepted* standard practice in compensating servers. If Nik want's to rebel against the "system", then by all means boycott the restauranteur. But stiffing the waitstaff because he's a cheap bastard doesn't do much for his *cause*, it only makes him look like a cheap bastard.
If Nik actually had the balls he pretends to have (like I said earlier, I bet his spine softens and he leaves a tip each and every time a check comes) he should announce his intentions and the reason why he's not going to tip prior to ordering his meals. That would require *real* conviction and moxie so I don't expect Nik to actually act on that suggestion.........
File creation date has nothing to do with when the picture was taken. I haven't been 19 for five years. While that really isn't much, there's still quite the difference between a 19-year old and a 24-year old.
Like the other half-wits in this thread, you've latched on to my not tipping in that scenario and assumed that I simply don't tip, calling me cheap. Congratulations, I guess.
I never said I never tip. In fact, I've said over and over in this thread that I'll tip when they've earned it and I tip very well. However, I don't like the half-assed attitude that too many people in the customer service industry have at most places I go. I won't reward sub-standard service.
If you and I ever manage to go out to a restaurant together, you're more than welcome to leave a tip based on your evaluation of the establishment's customer service skill. It's your money, you do what you want with it. Give $100,000 tip on a $5 order for all I care. I guarantee that person isn't going to be working there the next day. Bitching about not getting enough tips just shows that you're more interested in money than your job (customer service) in which case I'd suggest that you find another line of work. Maybe a job you actually like to do?
Do you think calling me cheap actually insults me or something? Do you think calling me cheap fixes the ass-backwards system of tipping? You don't give good service because you get a tip, you get a tip because you give good service. If you're not getting tips, work harder.
Arguements that side with the employer being responsible for offering higher pay and theh employee being responsible for either accepting the paycheck or going to work somewhere else is based on logic.
Arguements that side with the "poor waiter" who doesn't make enough money on their paycheck and refuse to find alternative employment instead of taking their mistake (keeping the job) out on the customer are irrational and not based on logic.
Red,
Have you ever been a bartender? I think you'd make a kickass bartender
I thought about bartending for fun, but I can't see myself doing it for very long so I'm not going to bother.I am sure the places he frequents already know. Hopefully, he does not get anyone ...immature... serving him or he may be guzzling sperm with each meal. And, no, I don't advocate ejaculating in people's food
Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: Nik
Assume all you want. I've told you how I tip. Calling me a liar doesn't make it a lie.
I'm not calling you a liar, I'm saying your e-penis is much larger than the mangina you're sportin' in real life.
Then you're calling me a liar. Your talking about my "real life" must be from your exhaustive experience with me in real life, right?
I'm being totally straight in this thread. For the most part, with the exception of childish things like calling people half-wits and making mafia comments, I've been serious.
Think what you want, but I feel insulted that I'm being called a liar.
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