What do you carry?

[gergever]

a gun is a gun, whether it is used/obtained illegally or not.

RE Switzerland, they may have high gun ownership (I don't know the statistics of various countries), but I believe they may have less crime because of their standard of living as I stated previously. Guns don't create fear necessarily, but ownership can be a result of fear. Unless this country evolves somehow into a more civilized society, guns will be a major problem for us. So a gun owner living here can have a different impact than a gun owner living in say, Switzerland.

Unless you have to shoot an animal to feed yourself (not necessary these days), there is no real need to have a firearm. I'm right, you're wrong, and it will always be that way, so go shoot your gun to relieve your frustration.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: gergever
a gun is a gun, whether it is used/obtained illegally or not.

RE Switzerland, they may have high gun ownership (I don't know the statistics of various countries), but I believe they may have less crime because of their standard of living as I stated previously. Guns don't create fear necessarily, but ownership can be a result of fear. Unless this country evolves somehow into a more civilized society, guns will be a major problem for us. So a gun owner living here can have a different impact than a gun owner living in say, Switzerland.

Unless you have to shoot an animal to feed yourself (not necessary these days), there is no real need to have a firearm. I'm right, you're wrong, and it will always be that way, so go shoot your gun to relieve your frustration.

Way to stereotype... I don't even own a gun. But I am sure as hell not going to stop someone from exercising their right to do so.

Here's how it goes,

1) Guns are banned
2) Law abiding citizens turn in their guns
3) Criminals keep their guns
4) Law abiding citizens are now targets for crime

Anyone remember that German school shooting awhile ago? Aren't guns banned in Germany? Mmm.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: gergever
a gun is a gun, whether it is used/obtained illegally or not.

RE Switzerland, they may have high gun ownership (I don't know the statistics of various countries), but I believe they may have less crime because of their standard of living as I stated previously. Guns don't create fear necessarily, but ownership can be a result of fear. Unless this country evolves somehow into a more civilized society, guns will be a major problem for us. So a gun owner living here can have a different impact than a gun owner living in say, Switzerland.

Unless you have to shoot an animal to feed yourself (not necessary these days), there is no real need to have a firearm. I'm right, you're wrong, and it will always be that way, so go shoot your gun to relieve your frustration.

Hi. I'm breaking into your house to feed my crack addiction. I have a rusty machete. You have no gun.

Bookie, give me the odds, please.

- M4H

 

[gergever]

y'all are just proving my point

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: gergever
y'all are just proving my point

I believe we're using sarcasm to show how asinine your 'point' is.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: gergever
y'all are just proving my point

That you're a moron with no concept of the real world? Yes, we've done that quite well.

Perhaps you should try to learn a bit about guns. You can borrow mine for starters.

- M4H

 

[gergever]

my 'point' is that we shouldn't have to create an arms race to deal with someone with a rusty machete as it only contributes to the problem.

 

[packmule]

Mostly change, you know nickels, dimes and quarters.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: gergever
y'all are just proving my point

That you're a moron with no concept of the real world? Yes, we've done that quite well.

Perhaps you should try to learn a bit about guns. You can borrow mine for starters.

- M4H

I was waiting for that picture to pop up. :beer:

Such a shame -- a perfect example of a good thread gone bad. I think we need to hear more from deathkoba.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: gergever
my 'point' is that we shouldn't have to create an arms race to deal with someone with a rusty machete as it only contributes to the problem.

Defending yourself is not an "arms race." :roll:

Now, who were you before you were banned?

- M4H

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: gergever
y'all are just proving my point

That you're a moron with no concept of the real world? Yes, we've done that quite well.

Perhaps you should try to learn a bit about guns. You can borrow mine for starters.

- M4H

I was waiting for that picture to pop up. :beer:

Such a shame -- a perfect example of a good thread gone bad. I think we need to hear more from deathkoba.

It's been sleeping for awhile.

It's too bad that certain people couldn't have just left the thread alone, but <Gump> stupid is as stupid does </gump>

- M4H

 

[gergever]

Ahh, freedom of speech.
I think the gov't should legislate mandatory ownership so we can kill anyone who threatens us.
That should solve the problem.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: gergever
Ahh, freedom of speech.
I think the gov't should legislate mandatory ownership so we can kill anyone who threatens us.
That should solve the problem.

I never said gun ownership should be mandatory. But it's obvious this is just flamebait, good work.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: gergever
Ahh, freedom of speech.
I think the gov't should legislate mandatory ownership so we can kill anyone who threatens us.
That should solve the problem.

I think you should serve yourself a healthy afternoon brunch of buckshot, but that's just my opinion.

- M4H

 

[gergever]

"Here's how it goes,

1) Guns are banned
2) Law abiding citizens turn in their guns
3) Criminals keep their guns
4) Law abiding citizens are now targets for crime
"

That is a dilemna, but something like that scenario has to happen.


3) Criminals keep their guns
4) Law abiding citizens are now targets for crime
this is why we have police

risk is involved.
It is understandable that owning a gun would protect you to some extent from criminals, but as I said before, the larger the pool of weapons, the greater the risk to everyone. So in that respect it is an arms race, trying to combat guns with guns. Fear factor. It has to stop somewhere.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: gergever
"Here's how it goes,

1) Guns are banned
2) Law abiding citizens turn in their guns
3) Criminals keep their guns
4) Law abiding citizens are now targets for crime
"

That is a dilemna, but something like that scenario has to happen.


3) Criminals keep their guns
4) Law abiding citizens are now targets for crime
this is why we have police

risk is involved.
It is understandable that owning a gun would protect you to some extent from criminals, but as I said before, the larger the pool of weapons, the greater the risk to everyone. So in that respect it is an arms race, trying to combat guns with guns. Fear factor. It has to stop somewhere.

Right, criminals are going to give up guns? Mmm ok. When hell freezes over.

Cops can't protect you, they're good for coming after the fact. It's a horrible reality.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: gergever
"Here's how it goes,

1) Guns are banned
2) Law abiding citizens turn in their guns
3) Criminals keep their guns
4) Law abiding citizens are now targets for crime
"

That is a dilemna, but something like that scenario has to happen.


3) Criminals keep their guns
4) Law abiding citizens are now targets for crime
this is why we have police

risk is involved.
It is understandable that owning a gun would protect you to some extent from criminals, but as I said before, the larger the pool of weapons, the greater the risk to everyone. So in that respect it is an arms race, trying to combat guns with guns. Fear factor. It has to stop somewhere.

Your ideas don't piss me off. They make me shake my head at your blatant disbelief of reality, but they don't piss me off.

Try this one on for size.

1) Guns are banned.
2) Law abiding citizens hide their guns.
3) Left-wing liberal pussies cheer because the visible guns have vanished.
4) Criminals rob left-wing liberal pussies.
5) Formerly law-abiding citizens who are now criminals due to keeping their guns don't care.
6) Life resumes as normal.

Or Scenario 2:

1) Guns are banned.
2) Massive amounts of LSD are introduced to the water supply to get all law-abiding citizens to turn in their guns, because bullets can't hurt the frogs on the bleeding floors that belch fire.
3) Criminals keep their guns and shoot people in an LSD-infused frenzy.
4) Police are outnumbered 10000:1 and stay safely in central office.
5) Anarchy Supreme!

Now if you'll excuse me, the purple window screen can only keep the flying spiders away for so long, I need to get my blowtorch.

</LSD>

- M4H

 

[gergever]

"Its a horrible reality"

OK, I'm having an altruistic outlook today, without any solution, but I think inherently guns are part of the problem. I admit I can't provide good way out.

There are just too many deaths by guns in the US, and more guns translates to more deaths, whether you are a responsible owner or not.

I'll bow out...you may continue flaming...

 

[classy]

As I have repeatedly said here, there is no need for anyone to walk around with a loaded gun. Your only doing it caused your either fearful or need to make yourself feel like a tough guy. As far I am concerned unless your a law enforcement person, your nothing but a punk if you carry a gun. You are part of the problem with gun violence in America.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: classy
As I have repeatedly said here, there is no need for anyone to walk around with a loaded gun. Your only doing it caused your either fearful or need to make yourself feel like a tough guy. As far I am concerned unless your a law enforcement person, your nothing but a punk if you carry a gun. You are part of the problem with gun violence in America.

If more people carried, the criminals would be afraid to be killed. You are part of the problem with gun violence in America.

- M4H

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: classy
As I have repeatedly said here, there is no need for anyone to walk around with a loaded gun. Your only doing it caused your either fearful or need to make yourself feel like a tough guy. As far I am concerned unless your a law enforcement person, your nothing but a punk if you carry a gun. You are part of the problem with gun violence in America.

Fearful? Nope, just cautious.
Tough guy? Yeah, that's why it's concealed.

The problem in America lies with the gungrabbers whose only purpose is to erode our nation's laws. If they don't like the Second Amendment, someone else will take issue with the First, and on and on.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Problem? I think you are totally avoiding the point I made. Find me a statistic for guns used in crimes -- legal vs illegal.

Besides, guns will be made, and will always be made. You can't stop that from happening, and if you think it can happen, I have a beautiful oceanside resort for sale in Arizona.

I live in South Florida, which is a little different than most of the country...I can drive about 30 minutes and be able to buy illegal weapons pretty easy if I have cash and don't look like a mole/snitch/whatever.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: classy
As I have repeatedly said here, there is no need for anyone to walk around with a loaded gun. Your only doing it caused your either fearful or need to make yourself feel like a tough guy. As far I am concerned unless your a law enforcement person, your nothing but a punk if you carry a gun. You are part of the problem with gun violence in America.

All I have to say is you REALLY need to get out more. LANfests are not getting out.

 

[classy]

Girly men, punks, criminals, and fairys carry guns. Period. If you carry a gun and your not a law enforcement person, you fall under one of those 4 categories. Sissys

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: classy
As I have repeatedly said here, there is no need for anyone to walk around with a loaded gun. Your only doing it caused your either fearful or need to make yourself feel like a tough guy. As far I am concerned unless your a law enforcement person, your nothing but a punk if you carry a gun. You are part of the problem with gun violence in America.

All I have to say is you REALLY need to get out more. LANfests are not getting out.

Toys R US is having a sale on Barbie Dolls, why don't you pick up some for you and your tough crowd. LOL

:laugh: