Well, here's an FYI from the United States Code. Now interpretations and enforcement may also vary by any applicable state laws, I'm no gun law expert for sure, but in a situation such as the one described, even just showing a weapon can be considered threatening (especially since common sense tells you that it is) and could get you into trouble. This is something to think about if you plan to carry a weapon. But once again, I would hope those who do carry would know that regardless of the legality, it's not a smart thing to go around showing people your weapon when your life is not in immediate danger, especially in an argument or similar situation!
For purposes of this subsection, the term ''brandish'' means, with respect to a firearm, to display all or part of the firearm, or otherwise make the presence of the firearm known to another person, in order to intimidate that person, regardless of whether the firearm is directly visible to that person.
Mo0o
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Well its not really an assault rifle, its more of a anti-missle gatling gun spewing out depleted uranium rounds.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101...p/weaps/ciws-label.jpg
I think ill just wheel this baby around in a big truck. You can never be too safe.
Oh, im wearing nothing but full kevlar from now on. Can't be too safe.
"It has nothing to do with fear"
bowling for columbine made a believer out of me
I can see the "right to pack" crowd can make semi-sense in their arguments, but they only aggravate the root of the problem
high per capita gun ownership = high crime & death rates
bowling for columbine made a believer out of me
I can see the "right to pack" crowd can make semi-sense in their arguments, but they only aggravate the root of the problem
high per capita gun ownership = high crime & death rates
So you are saying that in a country with most able bodied men having a rifle in their homes, crime rates would be sky-high?
Freejack2
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I carry nothing. Why? Because if I want to carry I would have to have a "good" reason (self defense isn't) I would have to wait months for a background check, and then finally go before a judge who would decide if I can carry or not. If the judge is an anti-gun advocate I can forget about ever getting a permit to carry.
At best I could keep an unloaded shotgun in the trunk, not much security there.
I'll just stick with pepper spray.
At best I could keep an unloaded shotgun in the trunk, not much security there.
I'll just stick with pepper spray.
"So you are saying that in a country with most able bodied men having a rifle in their homes, crime rates would be sky-high?"
That was the main thrust of the movie. MM compared per capita gun owner percentages vs crime % in Canada and US. Canada has lower gun ownership rates, and he demonstrated Canadians were less preoccupied with fear & crime by walking right in peoples front doors. The relationship was evident.
That was the main thrust of the movie. MM compared per capita gun owner percentages vs crime % in Canada and US. Canada has lower gun ownership rates, and he demonstrated Canadians were less preoccupied with fear & crime by walking right in peoples front doors. The relationship was evident.
Unless you have a warrent for murder, people after you, deal with drugs, or have some not so good friends, I'm not sure why you'd need a gun to carry around, just use a baseball bat or something for in ur car lmao.
While I'm at it, let me add another pet peeve by lumping the "right to bear arms" and the "right to ride" crowds together. Your 'rights' invade my rights when some fat ahole on illegal loud hog passes by, shaking my windows, and you or someone who steals your gun, threatens me. It makes no difference to me whether you are a 'responsible' gun owner, when the arms are still 'out there' and could be obtained by another person who isn't. Guns only contribute to the fear and animosity found in our society.
alkemyst
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Originally posted by: Mill
Living in Birmingham is the only justification I need!
My brother lives in Shreveport, both he and his financee carry. Him a Sig 232 (.380 and compact), her a HK Taurus hammerless compact .38. They are in the upper upper class there and the poor is common and aggressive in panhandling/begging. Out on their street bikes is when it's usually the biggest problem, but they also go out into the outdoors geocaching, kayaking, and mountain biking....there are bums even out there asking for money and get ticked off when you truthfully claim you don't even have a wallet on you.
Thing is though is carrying is a delicate 'art'...almost everyone would be nervous if they knew someone had a gun (even if legally).
If I were to buy a gun it would more than likely be a compact .40 Glock with a normal mag. Decent firepower and small enough to be not cumbersome...reliable. For home protection I'd probably consider a combination of either a shotgun or assault rifle and large high capacity sidearm only because in your house you are sort of trapped and the 'value' of the heist is more appealing to the intruder. On the street they know they are either getting a wallet/jewelry...vehicle, plus you have a lot more room to fire a few shots and get the hell out of Dodge (anyone that tries to persist a firefight rather than flee it is pretty stupid unless they know it wouldn't end there).
So I guess neither you nor Michael Moore have heard of Switzerland, nor looked at their gun crime rates. That or there has been a massive coverup to hide their crime rates.
Out of all my pistols, I like my Sig 226 as an all-arounder the best. Iif I could have a permit to carry, that's what it would be without question. But, then again, I live in Canada so getting a permit to carry is about as likely as Pauly Shore winning an Oscar.
Using a Michael Moore film as proof of anything usually turns out in flames. But, gun laws only hurt law abiding citizens. Criminals can and will obtain guns regardless of the laws, hence, they are criminals.
I would like for you to find me news stories of instances where legal firearms were used in crimes. I have a feeling it's going to take awhile.
Hook, line, and Ownage.
Given the rest of the "generous editing" that fat bastard did to his movies, I wouldn't be surprised if he walked in, said "Hi, I'm shooting a movie, can you act polite?" before doing an "impromptu visit."
Michael Moore walking unannounced into my house would have resulted in nothing less than the communication of his exodus via blunt instrument.
- M4H
alkemyst
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I am not going to get into this debate more than saying if *anyone* truly believes that because their neighbor's now own guns that they are going to be criminals and kill people...they really need to find new neighbors.
I wholeheartedly believe if issuing a gun to everyone was manditory there would be a very bad period due to new 'MEN' coming out....that would quickly revert to a calm period where BS stops. You will always have abuse. For every asshat martial artist that goes around picking on people there are tenfold if a hundredfold of those that stand down because they don't have to prove they can mop a bar with some drunk fool.
Switzerland may be an exception, but there are undoubtably contributing factors, i.e. high standard of living, less disparity between rich and poor, less poverty, etc.
MM makes broad generalizations yes, and you can shoot holes (pun intended) through some of his arguments, but he makes sense to me.
"Criminals can and will obtain guns regardless of the laws, hence, they are criminals. "
You are missing my point. Guns obtained legally only add to the pool of weapons in this country. You sell yours, someone steals yours, it don't matter. You bought a gun and you are adding to the problem.
MM makes broad generalizations yes, and you can shoot holes (pun intended) through some of his arguments, but he makes sense to me.
"Criminals can and will obtain guns regardless of the laws, hence, they are criminals. "
You are missing my point. Guns obtained legally only add to the pool of weapons in this country. You sell yours, someone steals yours, it don't matter. You bought a gun and you are adding to the problem.
Problem? I think you are totally avoiding the point I made. Find me a statistic for guns used in crimes -- legal vs illegal.
Besides, guns will be made, and will always be made. You can't stop that from happening, and if you think it can happen, I have a beautiful oceanside resort for sale in Arizona.
Well then, it's obvious that the only answer is to destroy all the firearms in the world. :roll:
Go picket a broken-glass factory barefoot, hippie.
- M4H
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