Went under the knife yesterday (snip-snip)

[OverVolt]

I feel the need to side with Texashiker on the submission issue. This is not an issue in most relationships but there are some in which the woman is a pain in the ass dominant bitch that must control everything and tell the man what he must do. Short of smacking such women around to put them in their place, a man must stand up for himself. Being told or heavily suggested by such a woman (or her mother) that he must get snipped is submission that no man must ever accept.

In a fair relationship between two equals, submission is not an issue.

Yup definitely. I don't know where the other guys are to be my allies, but sometimes I will have like 2 mothers 3 sisters my girlfriend and 2 of her friends all trying to "heavily suggest" that I go and do something and if you catch on to what they are doing they will usually be pretty frustrated their girl master plan is not working.

 

[SunnyD]

I feel the need to side with Texashiker on the submission issue. This is not an issue in most relationships but there are some in which the woman is a pain in the ass dominant bitch that must control everything and tell the man what he must do. Short of smacking such women around to put them in their place, a man must stand up for himself. Being told or heavily suggested by such a woman (or her mother) that he must get snipped is submission that no man must ever accept.

In a fair relationship between two equals, submission is not an issue.

And with that, you touched on a completely DIFFERENT topic all together.

There's a huge difference between "grow a pair" and "because I wanted to". If you're in a relationship where you feel your counterpart is dictating your life, then I can see where clinging to each tenuous facet of "being a man" could be appealing. But hey, that's a different story for a different time, and a problem you need to work out with your significant other.

Personally, I prefer to cling to the facet of being a man that is being able to screw without any worry about having more children. And that is something completely under MY control.

 

[Texashiker]

Every time you post it's like you're trying to say something dumber than in the past.

Lets say that you had some kind of health issue that put you at risk of dying, or other health issues. Why would you want to point your finger at someone and say, "you need to have this done so I am not at risk". That is like asking coke to stop making drinks with sugar so you do not get fat.

If you are the one at risk, you get the problem fixed.

As an example, my wife has high blood pressure. It is in her best interest not to get knocked up. So guess what, she got her tubes tied.

Like Mr T said, I pity the fool who has his nuts cut.

I will have like 2 mothers 3 sisters my girlfriend and 2 of her friends all trying to "heavily suggest" that I go and do something

When I was married to my ex-wife, my mother-in-law and my wife would pull that crap.

 

[pelov]

So are you cool with abortions? Cause if not, then you're a hypocrite.

She can abort the shit out of it! Double abort it! Abort the abortion! Hell, I don't care.

If one person isn't ready to raise a child then they're both not ready.

 

[dawp]

I considered it before I hook up with my current GF but since she's had a hysterectomy there is a need to.

 

[rcpratt]

I came to see how this got to 50 posts so quickly, and then I saw Texashiker. :whiste:

 

[PClark99]

A man getting cut is one of the ultimate forms of humiliation and submission.

When I was married to my first wife, my mother-in-law tried to "tell" me I was going to get cut. I told her real quick, and in no uncertain terms that "NO, I was not".

My mother-in-law went on to tell me it was easier for the man to get cut then a woman, and after the woman had the kids, that is the least I could do.

I do not care if it is easier for the man to get cut, I am NOT going to be cut, screw that.

Sterilization is an act of submission, and I am not submitting.

My soon to be ex-wife tried to pull the same shit on me. The joke was on her though, my swimmers are malformed so we had to go invitro. The upside of that was I got to stick her with about 100 needles during the whole process.

As the fertility doctor put it, I have a better chance of winning the megamillions twice than I do fathering a child the good old fashioned way.

 

[Red Squirrel]

It seems to depend on the doctor, sounds like you had a good one. I've heard so many horror stories I think I'll pass if ever it gets to that time. The doctor in town who does it is a butcher. For some reason his method involves cutting the ball sack in half. I guess it's easier for him and he does not want to screw around working in a tight area, so he just opens it right up. The guy I heard the story from said his reopened when he got home, he called the doctor and he said to put ice on it... no stiches, no nothing. He's lucky it did not get infected.

There's this other method that a doctor 3 hours from here uses where it's like a punch tool, it just punctures it very fast and makes the cut. That way it's just a tiny little hole that's left. That does not sound too bad. Though the thought of getting a needle to freeze it sounds painful. Guess You can always have a couple shots of vodka before going.

Also don't you have to shave before getting that operation? I can't imagine trying to shave that without cutting that soft skin.

Now the bonus of getting it done is if your wife gets preggers later, you know you need to have a little talk with the mail man.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Why in the world would they do that when there are better options.

Sometimes I wonder if you're actually serious or are just trolling.

Its trolling to be curious about the decline of celibacy in marriage, even after decades of being joined at the hip?

Historically speaking, there used to be a point in people's lives when sex grew less important to the point of being unnecessary to enjoy a loving relationship. The idea is being lost in today's focus on self indulgence.

This is not a criticism of the OP, just an observation. We all make up our own minds.

 

[KeithTalent]

Its trolling to be curious about the decline of celibacy in marriage after decades of being joined at the hip?

Historically speaking, there used to be a point in people's lives when sex grew less important to the point of being unnecessary to enjoy a loving relationship. The idea is being lost in today's focus on self indulgence.

I think that still happens; the relationship evolves to the point where people are not constantly humping like rabbits, but why would you completely eliminate sexual intercourse with someone you, presumably, love and are attracted to, or at least were attracted to at some point. I guess I just don't see the point of committed celibacy in a relationship.

KT

 

[SunnyD]

Its trolling to be curious about the decline of celibacy in marriage, even after decades of being joined at the hip?

Historically speaking, there used to be a point in people's lives when sex grew less important to the point of being unnecessary to enjoy a loving relationship. The idea is being lost in today's focus on self indulgence.

This is not a criticism of the OP, just an observation. We all make up our own minds.

Ahh religion. The basis for most of the worlds stupidest arguments.

It's a good thing plants and animals aren't religious, otherwise we'd be starving to death.

 

[Texashiker]

I came to see how this got to 50 posts so quickly, and then I saw Texashiker. :whiste:

I almost posted how I really felt about this thread, but I do not want to get banned.

 

[ichy]

Its trolling to be curious about the decline of celibacy in marriage, even after decades of being joined at the hip?

The day I become celibate is the day I lose my will to live.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Lets say that you had some kind of health issue that put you at risk of dying, or other health issues. Why would you want to point your finger at someone and say, "you need to have this done so I am not at risk". That is like asking coke to stop making drinks with sugar so you do not get fat.

If you are the one at risk, you get the problem fixed.

As an example, my wife has high blood pressure. It is in her best interest not to get knocked up. So guess what, she got her tubes tied.

Like Mr T said, I pity the fool who has his nuts cut.


When I was married to my ex-wife, my mother-in-law and my wife would pull that crap.

Well shame on you then because by all accounts that's a more dangerous procedure and harder to recover from. All to protect your precious 'manhood' and your 'stance of dominance'.

I'll be signing up for the snip once #2 arrives, without a second thought.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I think that still happens; the relationship evolves to the point where people are not constantly humping like rabbits, but why would you completely eliminate sexual intercourse with someone you, presumably, love and are attracted to, or at least were attracted to at some point. I guess I just don't see the point of committed celibacy in a relationship.

KT

One can follow the other in due course. Menopause eventually takes care of the need for surgeries, unless one party has or is seeking other partners.

 

[ichy]

I feel the need to side with Texashiker on the submission issue. This is not an issue in most relationships but there are some in which the woman is a pain in the ass dominant bitch that must control everything and tell the man what he must do. Short of smacking such women around to put them in their place, a man must stand up for himself. Being told or heavily suggested by such a woman (or her mother) that he must get snipped is submission that no man must ever accept.

In that case the issue isn't the procedure, it's the relationship with your wife and/or her mother that's the problem.

 

[Gothgar]

No thanks....

 

[FelixDeCat]

Ahh religion. The basis for most of the worlds stupidest arguments.

It's a good thing plants and animals aren't religious, otherwise we'd be starving to death.

So you are saying atheists can't be celibate? :whiste:

 

[EagleKeeper]

It seems to depend on the doctor, sounds like you had a good one. I've heard so many horror stories I think I'll pass if ever it gets to that time. The doctor in town who does it is a butcher. For some reason his method involves cutting the ball sack in half. I guess it's easier for him and he does not want to screw around working in a tight area, so he just opens it right up. The guy I heard the story from said his reopened when he got home, he called the doctor and he said to put ice on it... no stiches, no nothing. He's lucky it did not get infected.

There's this other method that a doctor 3 hours from here uses where it's like a punch tool, it just punctures it very fast and makes the cut. That way it's just a tiny little hole that's left. That does not sound too bad. Though the thought of getting a needle to freeze it sounds painful. Guess You can always have a couple shots of vodka before going.

Also don't you have to shave before getting that operation? I can't imagine trying to shave that without cutting that soft skin.

Now the bonus of getting it done is if your wife gets preggers later, you know you need to have a little talk with the mail man.

And you do not have to worry about evidence from that out of town trip:whiste:

 

[nickbits]

I don't understand the "remove myself from the genepool" psychology.

I have zero interest being a parent and would be pretty terrible at it.

 

[EagleKeeper]

One can follow the other in due course. Menopause eventually takes care of the need for surgeries, unless one party has or is seeking other partners.

Eventually between 40-50

Until that time; there are plenty of days to start an extra child.

And the freedom to chase around the table without any consequences is exhilarating :thumbsup:

 

[crashtestdummy]

Its trolling to be curious about the decline of celibacy in marriage, even after decades of being joined at the hip?

Historically speaking, there used to be a point in people's lives when sex grew less important to the point of being unnecessary to enjoy a loving relationship. The idea is being lost in today's focus on self indulgence.

This is not a criticism of the OP, just an observation. We all make up our own minds.

Actually, the way it often "used" to work was that the mother would have children almost continuously until she died, became infertile, or disgusted with the idea of more sex to create more children. Also, marriages generally weren't about love, but stability. If a couple loved each other, that was great, but not the goal of marriage.

Thank science for birth control.

 

[Exterous]

Oh and FWIW, I got cut on the 9th of this month. Fully back in action right now. Actually played a couple hours of...

I got real worried about reading the rest of your post after that....

 

[Texashiker]

Well shame on you then because by all accounts that's a more dangerous procedure and harder to recover from.

There are other options besides getting her tubes tied.

 

[dawp]

So you are saying atheists can't be celibate? :whiste:

well they aren't likely to have hangups about sex like the religious folks so, like have sex with no strings attached.