Wendy's to install self-ordering kiosks at 1000 locations

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Puffnstuff

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You're right so far as it goes but so what? If everybody went back to school & got degrees we'd still have the same societal problem only with higher expectations that can't be met.

It's all tied up in the idea of ownership & what that entails, both in terms of privilege & obligation. What America is demanding from the ownership class is jobs in the face of their decreasing need for our labor. It's like trying to drink whiskey from a bottle of wine.

They won't lead us where we want to go. Hedge fund ownership assumes no greater social obligation than what we impose.
Not everybody is capable of successfully completing higher education and I realize that. I also recognize that this situation has gone so far that unless people attempt to mitigate their personal situations they will never rise above their circumstances.

Trying to take one class per semester versus sitting around and complaining is the difference between getting somewhere with a plan and remaining trapped in place. I know people who took 10 years to get their BS but they kept on chipping away at it until they achieved it. I don't have any sympathy for people who just sit around complaining rather than actually trying to better themselves.

Personally I love the kiosks which allow me to select what I want when I order and pay which is super convenient. Fast food is just as the name implies and this service performs this function. Speed and accuracy are enhanced by this method and I believe that any fast food restaurant seeking to improve service will add them to relieve employees from having to deal with the public in this way so they can be reassigned to other jobs.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
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Drive through windows should be the first area where kiosks are installed to facilitate order accuracy and payment convenience.
 

momeNt

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What's the incentive to get people to strive to be successful?

Love of country and being part of something bigger than yourself.

We need to get a whole lot more nationalistic in order for it to work. Having a state run media to steer society in the right direction is a pretty vital part of that. Right now the media is incentivized by advertising dollars which promote consumerism and greed. A state media is not really hampered by that.
 

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Love of country and being part of something bigger than yourself.

We need to get a whole lot more nationalistic in order for it to work. Having a state run media to steer society in the right direction is a pretty vital part of that. Right now the media is incentivized by advertising dollars which promote consumerism and greed. A state media is not really hampered by that.

I have a feeling McFascist over here isn't talking about PBS.
 

momeNt

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I have a feeling McFascist over here isn't talking about PBS.

No I am talking about controlling the media as a whole, so that messages can be crafted and implemented to steer the nation towards a common goal. The goal being the elimination of poverty and ultra wealth.
 

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No I am talking about controlling the media as a whole, so that messages can be crafted and implemented to steer the nation towards a common goal. The goal being the elimination of poverty and ultra wealth.

This has to be some kind of parody.
 

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What's the incentive to get people to strive to be successful?
First, define success
Success is achieving what the puppet masters want you to achieve in life.
Seriously, no need to answer right away, to answer your question (which is not a bad question), define success or how you view it

You didn't like the answer I gave, didn't see it, or thought it was a joke answer?
 

momeNt

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This has to be some kind of parody.

yes, it's a ruse to root out communists for my masters who want to own everything and leave us with nothing. I just hope they allow me to curl up around their feet as they sit in their golden thrones. Or that some of them prefer a human hand to wipe their ass and not an automatic bidet =(
 

agent00f

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I read it as sarcastic

Is it really?

yes, it's a ruse to root out communists for my masters who want to own everything and leave us with nothing. I just hope they allow me to curl up around their feet as they sit in their golden thrones. Or that some of them prefer a human hand to wipe their ass and not an automatic bidet =(

Would that really be a disappoint as long as Trump rewards the faithful?
 

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momeNt

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Then why so eager to embrace Trump/Bannon's youknowwhat nationalism?

I did not say that it was going to be Trump/Bannon's nationalism. It likely won't come from somebody Republican as you know they are beholden to the bourgeoisie. It will have to take a sort of Lenin-esque sort of figure in order to corral support for this kind of a shift towards prosperity for all instead of a few.
 

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I did not say that it was going to be Trump/Bannon's nationalism. It likely won't come from somebody Republican as you know they are beholden to the bourgeoisie. It will have to take a sort of Lenin-esque sort of figure in order to corral support for this kind of a shift towards prosperity for all instead of a few.

The causal basis for socialist/communist societies starts with some class awareness, enlightenment ideals, and so on. I really don't think half the country is there yet. Lenin failed because of that.
 
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Ah, I can see why you'd think that. Time to show my cards then:

Economist Who Predicted Brexit & Trump Brilliantly Explains Capitalism's Collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K8bf6dbYt4

Why Brexit Is Good For Working People In Clear, Simple Terms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xq-gWv91WM

Mark Blyth ─ Global Trumpism
Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkm2Vfj42FY

I'll check them out. I wasn't even disagreeing really, internetting is srs bidness
 

momeNt

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The causal basis for socialist/communist societies starts with some class awareness, enlightenment ideals, and so on. I really don't think half the country is there yet. Lenin failed because of that.

Correct. Lenin did not have a media outlet that could pump information and propaganda into our brains during every waking hour of the day though.

All we need is buy-in from social media outlets such as facebook and twitter, and the public can be engineered gradually to accept the change. I think what Trump is doing by bringing in a media figure in Bannon into the oval office is a step in the right direction and will likely be utilized by future Presidents to shape society the way they see fit.

We know it works in theory because look at how consumerism has taken hold of this country simply by effective advertising campaigns. Government using that is no different.
 

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Correct. Lenin did not have a media outlet that could pump information and propaganda into our brains during every waking hour of the day though.

All we need is buy-in from social media outlets such as facebook and twitter, and the public can be engineered gradually to accept the change. I think what Trump is doing by bringing in a media figure in Bannon into the oval office is a step in the right direction and will likely be utilized by future Presidents to shape society the way they see fit.

We know it works in theory because look at how consumerism has taken hold of this country simply by effective advertising campaigns. Government using that is no different.

I'd like to reaffirm this post: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...t-1000-locations.2500338/page-8#post-38768210
 

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Love of country and being part of something bigger than yourself.

We need to get a whole lot more nationalistic in order for it to work. Having a state run media to steer society in the right direction is a pretty vital part of that. Right now the media is incentivized by advertising dollars which promote consumerism and greed. A state media is not really hampered by that.

That's all fine and dandy, then we had the Vietnam draft, Watergate, Iran Contra, Gulf War 1 & 2, Wall street telling politicians what is best not their voters, etc. etc.

Kind of kills that love of country stuff and the trust required for it, and let us not forget the love the country showed black people and American Indians.
 
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agent00f

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So do you think that maybe Trump is the one to bring us paradise? Or was that post coy? Like I said, I think Trump may be a pioneer in government social engineering, but that likely someone else will come along to bring about our utopia and enlightenment ideals. Don't you think?

Trump/bannon aren't really pioneering populist ethnic fascism. I believe that aspect of history is rather well covered even in capitalist schools.
 
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