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momeNt

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Trump/bannon aren't really pioneering populist ethnic fascism. I believe that aspect of history is rather well covered even in capitalist schools.

That's like saying Zuckerberg isn't a pioneer because Alexander Graham Bell was publishing a phone book for nearly a century beforehand.
 

agent00f

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That's like saying Zuckerberg isn't a pioneer because Alexander Graham Bell was publishing a phone book for nearly a century beforehand.

Those schools should've taught you that their predecessors certainly had some control over mediums to communicated with their followers.
 
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Notice how many positions are *above* fast food folks.

EDIT: Hmm, image won't show but it's in the article

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"Tory Shoreman thought she was safe.

As far as career choices go, working in mortgage financing at one of the country's top banks seemed like a solid bet.
She figured there would be more job security than many other professions and plenty of opportunities to climb the corporate ladder in Toronto.

That was back in 2010.

Over the next seven years, she says she had a front-row seat to watch automation — most often intelligent software — take over nearly every aspect of mortgage processing.

Tory Shoreman worked at one of Canada's top banks and says she watched automation take out 40 per cent of her department.

"I witnessed about 40 per cent of my department get laid off and the reason they were given was automation," the 32-year-old told CBC News. "And these are people who had spent years getting trained to be experts in this field. A lot of it was pretty shocking to all of us."

Experts say the technological upheaval that's rocked industrial manufacturing for decades is set for rapid expansion into white-collar roles — in fact, it's already begun in some sectors. The concern is that if people aren't prepared to adapt — and quickly — they could be left without work."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/automation-jobs-canada-computers-white-collar-1.3982466
 
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momeNt

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Yes, I assumed you went to school long enough to have covered the media control of fascist/authoritarian regimes.

Still my point holds true that using the new media as it exists now, with a much higher penetration rate, if you will, is something that can be considered pioneering, and we shouldn't get too held up on semantics when the greater good is at stake.
 

agent00f

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Still my point holds true that using the new media as it exists now, with a much higher penetration rate, if you will, is something that can be considered pioneering, and we shouldn't get too held up on semantics when the greater good is at stake.

Are you under the impression that the germans/italians were ignorant of the fuhrer's message?
 

momeNt

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Are you under the impression that the germans/italians were ignorant of the fuhrer's message?

I'm not trying to make this about fascism or ancient german/italian history. I am trying to say that my equal income goal of 15.5 trillion dollars a year of wages could be divided evenly among the people, and could be accepted by people, provided we put forth an effort in social engineering to get people to accept it. That's all.
 

agent00f

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I'm not trying to make this about fascism or ancient german/italian history. I am trying to say that my equal income goal of 15.5 trillion dollars a year of wages could be divided evenly among the people, and could be accepted by people, provided we put forth an effort in social engineering to get people to accept it. That's all.

So you're suggesting that conservatives somehow don't know what this communism caricature they're railing against is, and somehow they can be educated over twitter. Good luck.
 

momeNt

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So you're suggesting that conservatives somehow don't know what this communism caricature they're railing against is, and somehow they can be educated over twitter. Good luck.

You are just so negative. I really doubt Lenin, or any other great leader was as negative as you are. You see only obstacles, where as others see solutions.
 
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agent00f

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You are just so negative. I really doubt Lenin, or any other great leader was as negative as you are. You see only obstacles, where as others see solutions.

Keep in mind the half of the country composed of people this or chucky or svnla or doc savage, etc:

Agent can you do anything besides throwing a McFit?:p

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The peasant revolutionaries had the advantage of an audience with nothing to lose, in contrast to the blustering tough guys here who're hard on crime or whatever anyone much browner than them.
 
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ivwshane

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I'm not trying to make this about fascism or ancient german/italian history. I am trying to say that my equal income goal of 15.5 trillion dollars a year of wages could be divided evenly among the people, and could be accepted by people, provided we put forth an effort in social engineering to get people to accept it. That's all.

Its actually much harder now than then precisely because of social media. Back then, how many news outlets were there? How big were their audience? Compare that to today where the numbers of information distribution points are probably well over 100's and each one has a miniscule amount of the total audience. What agent was trying to point out to you is that reaching people like chucky, snvla, and def, would require a propaganda machine the size of the likes the world and all its history have never seen, combined.

He isn't being negative, he's being real.
 

agent00f

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I'm pretty sure the klansmen won't take kindly to the "welfare queens" getting any of the master race money.
 

Puffnstuff

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The peasant revolutionaries had the advantage of an audience with nothing to lose, in contrast to the blustering tough guys here who're hard on crime or whatever anyone much browner than them.
What does that have to do with what I said?:eek:
 

HamburgerBoy

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Please. The push for higher wages has little to do with it. Automation is a trend in every industry, has been for a long time. It's simply becoming more intense. It's almost like Moore's law.

The truth is that working for a living is becoming an obsolete economic model. There's not enough work to go around, not like there once was. It's what's happening in the inner cities & now in Trump country as well. Human beings are the inefficient part of Capitalism.

The inefficient part of socialism, you mean. Capitalism doesn't give welfare checks to women that can't handle their own reproductive organs. Those at highest risk of replacement by automation tend to also be those in the most subsidized industries (whether directly or indirectly), fast food, supermarket workers, agriculture workers, etc.
 

Jhhnn

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The inefficient part of socialism, you mean. Capitalism doesn't give welfare checks to women that can't handle their own reproductive organs. Those at highest risk of replacement by automation tend to also be those in the most subsidized industries (whether directly or indirectly), fast food, supermarket workers, agriculture workers, etc.

Capitalism & Capitalists don't give a damn about the citizenry other than milking them for profit, one way or the other. That's why we have democracy to counter the power of wealth. Progress being what it is, we'll need to exercise democracy even more strongly if we're to not be ground into dust to serve the ends of unfathomable greed at the top. We only get paid because they need us & they need fewer of us everyday across huge swaths of the economy. Our incomes are mere inefficiencies for their purposes.
 
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Jhhnn

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You are just so negative. I really doubt Lenin, or any other great leader was as negative as you are. You see only obstacles, where as others see solutions.

He's just here to push conservatives into the bunker o' denial. He does it with insults.
 

Puffnstuff

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We only get paid because they need us & they need fewer of us everyday across huge swaths of the economy. Our incomes are mere inefficiencies for their purposes.
Right now many retail chains are in a recession with store closings looming this quarter. The economy is changing as peoples habits change and the reduction of once stable sectors will continue as we move further into our service economy. Can a person prosper in this setting? Why yes they can but as a worker you must deploy strategy to survive.

Amazon is about to open two new DC's in my town because they've taken business away from traditional brick and mortar chains and this trend is not going to stop. Once you accept the reality that manufacturing will never return along with the fact that our economy has passed the point of no return you must then seek to understand where its going so you can adjust yourself to meet the challenges ahead. The loss of the American dream will not stop for many people and neither will the transfer of wealth upward.
 

Jhhnn

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Right now many retail chains are in a recession with store closings looming this quarter. The economy is changing as peoples habits change and the reduction of once stable sectors will continue as we move further into our service economy. Can a person prosper in this setting? Why yes they can but as a worker you must deploy strategy to survive.

Amazon is about to open two new DC's in my town because they've taken business away from traditional brick and mortar chains and this trend is not going to stop. Once you accept the reality that manufacturing will never return along with the fact that our economy has passed the point of no return you must then seek to understand where its going so you can adjust yourself to meet the challenges ahead. The loss of the American dream will not stop for many people and neither will the transfer of wealth upward.

Of course one needs to do the best they can under the circumstances but that addresses the broader social & economic issues not at all.

We are not yet ready to reverse the upward flow of wealth & income. We'll ultimately be forced to do so to maintain anything like a broad middle class. I figure Trump & the Repubs will rub our noses in that necessity before too many more years pass.
 
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