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[erikistired]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by:
Geekbabe
Elite Member
Senior Moderator


If you fscktards

Yeah, there's some accountability & professional moderator behavior right there.

Strong work Geekbabe :thumbsup:

yeah that's a quality and helpful person you have moderating there anandtech, same as she always was but at least she can't hide behind the mod account to insult people now.

actually if she wanted to she could.

but she is posting a thought. i have no problems with her posting and bitching and complaining.

how long do you think i'd last going around calling people fucktards? or calling what we post drivel?

it's amazing how much hate these so called helpful people have for the general membership.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by:
Geekbabe
Elite Member
Senior Moderator


If you fscktards

Yeah, there's some accountability & professional moderator behavior right there.

Strong work Geekbabe :thumbsup:

yeah that's a quality and helpful person you have moderating there anandtech, same as she always was but at least she can't hide behind the mod account to insult people now.

I'm okay with that, though. The moderators don't need to be automatons, they can still be fiesty and disagreeable. They do, however, need to be responsible if they cross the line the rest of the membership can't cross - and this change allows for exactly that.

Perfect solution IMO - everyone can be themselves, and everyone is accountable. Except for this ridiculous notion of a few exceptions to the rule anyways.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Heh, well there went a couple of hours of my life.

Seems my last post was 02/16/2006 11:22 AM

Wrong day to quit sniffing glue huh?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Fourier Transform

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: sixone
Does anyone remember when a Mod, posting under his own username, told me that I should be on my knees, "doing what I do best"? Where were the other moderators then, standing up for what's best for the forum?

And we're just supposed to forget that, and trust you as a group now? That's a bit much to ask, IMHO.

No shit? That would get a normal member perma'd.

Sorry, I misquoted it. The comment was that "the only time you should have your mouth open is when you're on your knees in front of me."

My mistake.

Wow. That's fucked up. There is no excuse for a comment like that.

damn, and I got 1 week for calling something gay

Haha. I got a week for "In before the lock, out before the ban"

Edit: I hold no hard feelings and I was fully expecting one, but I wonder who it was.

If it was, "Yes you got in before the lock but you didn't get out before the ban"
<----

Thanks for the set up.

 

[Fourier Transform]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by:
Geekbabe
Elite Member
Senior Moderator


If you fscktards

Yeah, there's some accountability & professional moderator behavior right there.

Strong work Geekbabe :thumbsup:

yeah that's a quality and helpful person you have moderating there anandtech, same as she always was but at least she can't hide behind the mod account to insult people now.

If I am free to call you a ***** as well, why shouldn't she? Simply because she's a mod doesn't mean that she needs to have the posting habits of a saint.

As a mod, she simply needs to do her job as fairly as possible adhere to the guidelines. She is still human and she still has her views and opinions on things. She just can't let it affect her moderating.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Fourier Transform

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by:
Geekbabe
Elite Member
Senior Moderator


If you fscktards

Yeah, there's some accountability & professional moderator behavior right there.

Strong work Geekbabe :thumbsup:

yeah that's a quality and helpful person you have moderating there anandtech, same as she always was but at least she can't hide behind the mod account to insult people now.

If I am free to call you a ***** as well, why shouldn't she? Simply because she's a mod doesn't mean that she needs to have the posting habits of a saint.

As a mod, she simply needs to do her job as fairly as possible adhere to the guidelines. She is still human and she still has her views and opinions on things. She just can't let it affect her moderating.

because you aren't free to call me whatever you starred out there. last time i checked name calling was a bannable offense...for some.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: yllus
Perfect solution IMO - everyone can be themselves, and everyone is accountable. Except for this ridiculous notion of a few exceptions to the rule anyways.

From the outside looking in, it does look strange, but you can't know it's ridiculous without knowing the people involved, their experiences and why they asked to be able to do this.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by:
Geekbabe
Elite Member
Senior Moderator


If you fscktards

Yeah, there's some accountability & professional moderator behavior right there.

Strong work Geekbabe :thumbsup:

yeah that's a quality and helpful person you have moderating there anandtech, same as she always was but at least she can't hide behind the mod account to insult people now.

actually if she wanted to she could.

but she is posting a thought. i have no problems with her posting and bitching and complaining.

how long do you think i'd last going around calling people ***** s? or calling what we post drivel?

it's amazing how much hate these so called helpful people have for the general membership.

well she is right. some of the people on here are ***** s and a lot of post are drivil.

anyway if i can call you or her a ***** why shouldnt she be able to call us one.


its when she starts banning people over stuff that the mods themselves do (wich has happened a few times).

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by:
Geekbabe
Elite Member
Senior Moderator


If you fscktards

Yeah, there's some accountability & professional moderator behavior right there.

Strong work Geekbabe :thumbsup:

yeah that's a quality and helpful person you have moderating there anandtech, same as she always was but at least she can't hide behind the mod account to insult people now.

Guess what? public identify means I now get to speak plainly and strongly should I chose to.As long as I avoid modding threads I'm active in and allow other mods to decide the fate of people I dislike.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: Roguestar
:Q

I think this is both good and bad. I liked the power the Mod had when they were anonymous, as now people will complain "oh how come X is a mod they're new/I'm an old member too" etc, but on the other hand it's more personal and brings in more accountability.

Yeah, if you are 12 and actually give a crap.

From experience on other forums, being a mod sounds awesome, but its really just unpaid babysitting when you get down to it. We should all thank the mods for keeping people in line and putting up with our antics.

 

[Fourier Transform]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Fourier Transform

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: nkgreen

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: sixone
Does anyone remember when a Mod, posting under his own username, told me that I should be on my knees, "doing what I do best"? Where were the other moderators then, standing up for what's best for the forum?

And we're just supposed to forget that, and trust you as a group now? That's a bit much to ask, IMHO.

No shit? That would get a normal member perma'd.

Sorry, I misquoted it. The comment was that "the only time you should have your mouth open is when you're on your knees in front of me."

My mistake.

Wow. That's fucked up. There is no excuse for a comment like that.

damn, and I got 1 week for calling something gay

Haha. I got a week for "In before the lock, out before the ban"

Edit: I hold no hard feelings and I was fully expecting one, but I wonder who it was.

If it was, "Yes you got in before the lock but you didn't get out before the ban"
<----

Thanks for the set up.

Hahaha. Unfortunately, you didn't use that quote with me (if it was indeed you).

Link

Maybe next time

 

[ViviTheMage]

ooooooooooo, not surprised geekbabe is a mod -_-

 

[BigJ]

Question:

If a Mod deletes or edits a post, is there any way for other Mods to see what was deleted/edited?

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
The forums have changed
Of course that will change. We have always been accountable to each other and it will be even more so now. Stuff goes on behind the scenes that you don't see.

I hope you're right. But I also hope you'll understand the whole "trust but verify" thing.

We are working towards that goal. In the end, we will prove ourselves. I have no doubt.
But you will always have malcontents who want to bust our butts. it comes with the territory.

If anyone knows that, I do. I think that's the only reason Red Dawn visits TFNN.

But I was serious, when I said I hope you're right. It's up to you and the other mods to prove it.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: Amused
BTW, To all those who thought I was a mod:

Whoever thought that?

I've been accused of it a few times.

didn't you use to have a lion for your avatar?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by:
Geekbabe
Elite Member
Senior Moderator


If you fscktards

Yeah, there's some accountability & professional moderator behavior right there.

Strong work Geekbabe :thumbsup:

yeah that's a quality and helpful person you have moderating there anandtech, same as she always was but at least she can't hide behind the mod account to insult people now.

Guess what? public identify means I now get to speak plainly and strongly should I chose to.As long as I avoid modding threads I'm active in and allow other mods to decide the fate of people I dislike.

shouldnt matter if you like or dislike anyone. it shoulb e what is said. It also shold be conistant (wich it is not).

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: waggy
it really does not matter. this sham is not going to rebuild trust. i feel it will do more to hurt it.

Agreed. "We want the members to know we're on their side, so here's everyone that's a moderator. Well, almost everyone, some didn't want to be known so we created new accounts for them so they can stay anonymous." Honestly, why even bother making the identities known when a few are still anonymous, does nothing to build trust, only cause suspicion.

yeap. sadly i have a feeling it will end like "change of culture" thread. mass banning and nothing changed.

How unfortunate. This seemed like such a positive step.

Guys, don't half-ass this. You want trust, make moderators public and accountable - you were 100% right in that step. If that person needs to be removed from the group because of a conflict, then that should happen - not a new exception for just a few people, which leads back to the exact same problem: That person is no longer directly accountable for their words.

There are plenty of reasonable, capable people to take their places if you remove emotion from the equation and look at this logically.

We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by:
Geekbabe
Elite Member
Senior Moderator


If you fscktards

Yeah, there's some accountability & professional moderator behavior right there.

Strong work Geekbabe :thumbsup:

yeah that's a quality and helpful person you have moderating there anandtech, same as she always was but at least she can't hide behind the mod account to insult people now.

actually if she wanted to she could.

but she is posting a thought. i have no problems with her posting and bitching and complaining.

how long do you think i'd last going around calling people fucktards? or calling what we post drivel?

it's amazing how much hate these so called helpful people have for the general membership.

You've made it a point to thread crap and practically troll in almost every thread I've created here for years... and yet you are still here.Why do you think that might be?

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: waggy
it really does not matter. this sham is not going to rebuild trust. i feel it will do more to hurt it.

Agreed. "We want the members to know we're on their side, so here's everyone that's a moderator. Well, almost everyone, some didn't want to be known so we created new accounts for them so they can stay anonymous." Honestly, why even bother making the identities known when a few are still anonymous, does nothing to build trust, only cause suspicion.

yeap. sadly i have a feeling it will end like "change of culture" thread. mass banning and nothing changed.

How unfortunate. This seemed like such a positive step.

Guys, don't half-ass this. You want trust, make moderators public and accountable - you were 100% right in that step. If that person needs to be removed from the group because of a conflict, then that should happen - not a new exception for just a few people, which leads back to the exact same problem: That person is no longer directly accountable for their words.

There are plenty of reasonable, capable people to take their places if you remove emotion from the equation and look at this logically.

We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

i think it's more to do with an account the mods can still do things with and not get personal flak. want to ban someone or lock a thread without hearing about it in PMs? use Common Courtesy!

 

[AnandTech Moderator]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Question:

If a Mod deletes or edits a post, is there any way for other Mods to see what was deleted/edited?

Yes

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: yllus
Perfect solution IMO - everyone can be themselves, and everyone is accountable. Except for this ridiculous notion of a few exceptions to the rule anyways.

From the outside looking in, it does look strange, but you can't know it's ridiculous without knowing the people involved, their experiences and why they asked to be able to do this.

We really don't need to. The reason for the conflict is unimportant; the fact the conflict exists is the issue.

So let's say Joe's secret account is Bob. If I call Bob an idiot for saying the plane takes off and Joe moderates the thread and bans me for a week, what the hell did this change just accomplish? You've completely negated any positives of it. It's back to, "Something is fishy about how Bob steps in for Joe a lot..." and the distrust is back in full force.

Just avoid the creation of another secret mod list and detach emotions from the issue. I'm sure Common Courtesy has been a wonderful moderator, but if s/he has a conflict, get out of it. Don't keep that person around solely because of history.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

I said I was sorry & I've honored that restraining order, jeezzeee, just let it go would you?

 

[Terabyte]

Originally posted by: AnandTech Moderator

Originally posted by: BigJ
Question:

If a Mod deletes or edits a post, is there any way for other Mods to see what was deleted/edited?

Yes

Who is this?!?!!

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: fisher
i think it's more to do with an account the mods can still do things with and not get personal flak. want to ban someone or lock a thread without hearing about it in PMs? use Common Courtesy!

Jesus, why don't you wait more than a couple hours before you judge how moderating will be conducted under the new rules? People are making a big deal out of nothing here.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

Was that because the member posted too much personally identifiable info, or because some nutjob had access to info that he shouldn't have?

I have your IP address, from TFNN. Does that mean I can find your house? No.