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[yllus]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

You can have this relative safety in anonymity, or you can have the ideals written up in the note today - not both.

Might I add that you've demonstrated that this secret identity thing doesn't work - that staff member did get accosted despite the secrecy, did s/he not?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: yllus
Perfect solution IMO - everyone can be themselves, and everyone is accountable. Except for this ridiculous notion of a few exceptions to the rule anyways.

From the outside looking in, it does look strange, but you can't know it's ridiculous without knowing the people involved, their experiences and why they asked to be able to do this.

We really don't need to. The reason for the conflict is unimportant; the fact the conflict exists is the issue.

So let's say Joe's secret account is Bob. If I call Bob an idiot for saying the plane takes off and Joe moderates the thread and bans me for a week, what the hell did this change just accomplish? You've completely negated any positives of it. It's back to, "Something is fishy about how Bob steps in for Joe a lot..." and the distrust is back in full force.

Just avoid the creation of another secret mod list and detach emotions from the issue. I'm sure Common Courtesy has been a wonderful moderator, but if s/he has a conflict, get out of it. Don't keep that person around solely because of history.

Oh, I am not advocating it. I just don't think it's necessarily ridiculous. Geekbabe said someone was confronted at their home. That's insane. I'd want to remain anonymous if I were that person as well, regardless if some forum members might think it's ridiculous.

 

[Ulfwald]

Things are now the way they are, and we are moving foward from here. We all have tried to be fair in our moderating, although sometimes people have made it very hard to be objective.

We mods are human too, and we have different ways of moderating, because of either being conservative, liberal, or moderate. And many actions were discussed, and altered due to differing points of views from moderators.

I will admit to being very conservative, and a lot of you have some of the more liberal moderators to thank for still being allowed to post here. And threads where I have personally gotten involved, and posted in, I have asked other mods to review the situation and take any action they deemed necessary, because I felt that my personal involvement clouded my judgement.

This goes to show that we have worked as a team here, and all bans,vacations, etc,.... were dealt with as fairly as possible after being discussed in committee. Now that we are "outted" , not only do we have to discuss things among ourselves, but we also now face direct attacks from the general population as well for our moderating decisions.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Terabyte

Originally posted by: AnandTech Moderator

Originally posted by: BigJ
Question:

If a Mod deletes or edits a post, is there any way for other Mods to see what was deleted/edited?

Yes

Who is this?!?!!

That was me. FireFox stopped rendering all of that post. I use IE for Modding and I am Opera now.

BTW, that FF bug is something we brought up to Fusetalk. Seems they ignored us on this too.

 

[ViviTheMage]

I can quote fine in firefox....most of the times.

 

[sygyzy]

My only comment abuot this whole thing is I'd like to know how some of the mods are chosen. Some are obvious to me like Ulfald and AndyHui but at least a few of the mods got the title because of their personal or platonic relationships with each other. Just because someone is your friend/mate doesn't mean they'd make a good mod.

 

[FoBoT]

w0w

<checks weather.com for hell freezing over>

 

[OutHouse]

i always thought NFS4 and pontifex was a mod

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Ulfwald,

Please confirm that I have NEVER been a forum Administrator or Moderator here.

Thanks

You have never been a forum Moderator. You are to cheap to pay what we are asking in "donations" to the moderator vacation fund.

Also, many of you have moderator quotes in your sigs. Now is the time to play "Match the Quote to the Moderator".

I see the campaign of misinformation continues. :|

 

[Fourier Transform]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Terabyte

Originally posted by: AnandTech Moderator

Originally posted by: BigJ
Question:

If a Mod deletes or edits a post, is there any way for other Mods to see what was deleted/edited?

Yes

Who is this?!?!!

That was me. FireFox stopped rendering all of that post. I use IE for Modding and I am Opera now.

BTW, that FF bug is something we brought up to Fusetalk. Seems they ignored us on this too.

Glad it's not just me with the FF problem. It stopped rendering for me just after sixone's thead on the previous page (@ 100 posts per page). IE is teh suck.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
My only comment abuot this whole thing is I'd like to know how some of the mods are chosen. Some are obvious to me like Ulfald and AndyHui but at least a few of the mods got the title because of their personal or platonic relationships with each other. Just because someone is your friend/mate doesn't mean they'd make a good mod.

hell geekbabe deserves it. anyone that sleeps with red should get to be a mod here or anywherE!

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
w0w

<checks weather.com for hell freezing over>

Why don't you graciously accept your Mod invitation and....I don't know...Fix some Broken Things around here?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Ulfwald

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Ulfwald,

Please confirm that I have NEVER been a forum Administrator or Moderator here.

Thanks

You have never been a forum Moderator. You are to cheap to pay what we are asking in "donations" to the moderator vacation fund.

Also, many of you have moderator quotes in your sigs. Now is the time to play "Match the Quote to the Moderator".

I see the campaign of misinformation continues. :|

wait Ross is not a mod!?

but i purchased coupons for a free unbanning from him off gottadeal! AHHH! guess i need to be nice if they aren't legit sigh

 

[vi edit]

I welcome our newly disclosed forum overloards.

I think it adds accountability that wasn't there with the annomnity.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

Was that because the member posted too much personally identifiable info, or because some nutjob had access to info that he shouldn't have?

I have your IP address, from TFNN. Does that mean I can find your house? No.

Perknose used to have enough personal information in his profile to find his address (full name and town)

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: yllus

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Kaervak

Originally posted by: waggy
it really does not matter. this sham is not going to rebuild trust. i feel it will do more to hurt it.

Agreed. "We want the members to know we're on their side, so here's everyone that's a moderator. Well, almost everyone, some didn't want to be known so we created new accounts for them so they can stay anonymous." Honestly, why even bother making the identities known when a few are still anonymous, does nothing to build trust, only cause suspicion.

yeap. sadly i have a feeling it will end like "change of culture" thread. mass banning and nothing changed.

How unfortunate. This seemed like such a positive step.

Guys, don't half-ass this. You want trust, make moderators public and accountable - you were 100% right in that step. If that person needs to be removed from the group because of a conflict, then that should happen - not a new exception for just a few people, which leads back to the exact same problem: That person is no longer directly accountable for their words.

There are plenty of reasonable, capable people to take their places if you remove emotion from the equation and look at this logically.

We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

i think it's more to do with an account the mods can still do things with and not get personal flak. want to ban someone or lock a thread without hearing about it in PMs? use Common Courtesy!

If we hear about it in our personal PMs you get one warning (might be two, to lazy to re-read the guidelines) and then you get banned. Use the Moderator account.
And for the record, I'd have nuked you a long time ago if it was that easy for one Mod to get rid of a member.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

Was that because the member posted too much personally identifiable info, or because some nutjob had access to info that he shouldn't have?

I have your IP address, from TFNN. Does that mean I can find your house? No.

Perknose used to have enough personal information in his profile to find his address (full name and town)

His choice. What does that have to do with mods needing an alternate identity?

 

[iRONic]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
If we hear about it in our personal PMs you get one warning (might be two, to lazy to re-read the guidelines) and then you get banned. Use the Moderator account.
And for the record, I'd have nuked you a long time ago if it was that easy for one Mod to get rid of a member.

Nice...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

Was that because the member posted too much personally identifiable info, or because some nutjob had access to info that he shouldn't have?

I have your IP address, from TFNN. Does that mean I can find your house? No.

Perknose used to have enough personal information in his profile to find his address (full name and town)

His choice. What does that have to do with mods needing an alternate identity?

Nothing. Just saying it could have been Perknose who was accosted at his house (there was a big dispute between him and texmaster or something like that... I wasn't here then though).

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Things are now the way they are, and we are moving foward from here. We all have tried to be fair in our moderating, although sometimes people have made it very hard to be objective.

We mods are human too, and we have different ways of moderating, because of either being conservative, liberal, or moderate. And many actions were discussed, and altered due to differing points of views from moderators.

I will admit to being very conservative, and a lot of you have some of the more liberal moderators to thank for still being allowed to post here. And threads where I have personally gotten involved, and posted in, I have asked other mods to review the situation and take any action they deemed necessary, because I felt that my personal involvement clouded my judgement.

This goes to show that we have worked as a team here, and all bans,vacations, etc,.... were dealt with as fairly as possible after being discussed in committee. Now that we are "outted" , not only do we have to discuss things among ourselves, but we also now face direct attacks from the general population as well for our moderating decisions.

So are you the Mod who gave me a one-week vacation for posting a "software" question in OT just a few weeks ago?

 

[Ulfwald]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Things are now the way they are, and we are moving foward from here. We all have tried to be fair in our moderating, although sometimes people have made it very hard to be objective.

We mods are human too, and we have different ways of moderating, because of either being conservative, liberal, or moderate. And many actions were discussed, and altered due to differing points of views from moderators.

I will admit to being very conservative, and a lot of you have some of the more liberal moderators to thank for still being allowed to post here. And threads where I have personally gotten involved, and posted in, I have asked other mods to review the situation and take any action they deemed necessary, because I felt that my personal involvement clouded my judgement.

This goes to show that we have worked as a team here, and all bans,vacations, etc,.... were dealt with as fairly as possible after being discussed in committee. Now that we are "outted" , not only do we have to discuss things among ourselves, but we also now face direct attacks from the general population as well for our moderating decisions.

So are you the Mod who gave me a one-week vacation for posting a "software" question in OT just a few weeks ago?

Nope, I was too busy installing laminate floor, and preparingfor another FDA certification. Besides, If I did tell you who gave you a vacation, I would have to ban you.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Ulfwald

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Things are now the way they are, and we are moving foward from here. We all have tried to be fair in our moderating, although sometimes people have made it very hard to be objective.

We mods are human too, and we have different ways of moderating, because of either being conservative, liberal, or moderate. And many actions were discussed, and altered due to differing points of views from moderators.

I will admit to being very conservative, and a lot of you have some of the more liberal moderators to thank for still being allowed to post here. And threads where I have personally gotten involved, and posted in, I have asked other mods to review the situation and take any action they deemed necessary, because I felt that my personal involvement clouded my judgement.

This goes to show that we have worked as a team here, and all bans,vacations, etc,.... were dealt with as fairly as possible after being discussed in committee. Now that we are "outted" , not only do we have to discuss things among ourselves, but we also now face direct attacks from the general population as well for our moderating decisions.

So are you the Mod who gave me a one-week vacation for posting a "software" question in OT just a few weeks ago?

Nope, I was too busy installing laminate floor, and preparingfor another FDA certification. Besides, If I did tell you who gave you a vacation, I would have to ban you.

Call it an "involuntary vow of silence"

 

[Terabyte]

Is there a mod for the fs/ft forum?

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

Was that because the member posted too much personally identifiable info, or because some nutjob had access to info that he shouldn't have?

I have your IP address, from TFNN. Does that mean I can find your house? No.

Perknose used to have enough personal information in his profile to find his address (full name and town)

His choice. What does that have to do with mods needing an alternate identity?

There are members of our staff with innocent spouses and small children,there are also staff members involved in our trading forums who often have to deal with some very bad actors.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
We had an occurance where a member of our staff was accosted at their home!

This was the reason for allowing the exception.

Was that because the member posted too much personally identifiable info, or because some nutjob had access to info that he shouldn't have?

I have your IP address, from TFNN. Does that mean I can find your house? No.

Perknose used to have enough personal information in his profile to find his address (full name and town)

His choice. What does that have to do with mods needing an alternate identity?

There are members of our staff with innocent spouses and small children,there are also staff members involved in our trading forums who often have to deal with some very bad actors.

Besides, someone still has to be Clark Kent!