Want to try Water on my Q9550

[Infrnl]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Are you making sure you are running one type of material for your RAD and Blocks?

No, lol but I will be. I was originally going with what was recommended by aigo; as he has recommended similar items for both of us.

Im not sure how that works since Koolance is nickel plated copper. I am going to run all copper, but some of the Koolance is nickel plated. Have heard that it should be ok. I think it will be ok, cause Aigo is running the K-350 and his own mosfet/chiset blocks are copper.
I am pretty sure that the rads are copper Swiftech, feser,Thermochill.
I know I saw that aigo mentioned something in your thread about making sure all the parts were of same material

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

ok, good, i was just checking to make sure

as i was thinking about it, i started to wonder about the barbs and the material they are made out of too,.... makes me wonder if that'll cause a problem... - Aigo, thoughs?

 

[Infrnl]

What do you think this case is worth? http://img519.imageshack.us/im...829/mmu2ufowpedza0.jpg

The guy is selling the case and pedistal. New price roughly $600 I think. I will tell you what he said he wanted after you tell me your thoughts. Definately should have plenty of room.

also dont know if I want to get a case yet. I was thinking WC parts first; play with rough setup; then case later. Or get case now; continue research on parts and wait for more results on blocks.

Also not too sure if these cases are worth the price; Thats a lot of money. I think the most I have ever spent on a case is $150 on an older TT case which I have my wifes system in. I have been running caseless for at least 6 mos now. Havent even really had a system going till recently. I had my wifes and the laptop with mine in pieces, lol.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

If you want to do it yourself, you'll need a 4 1/2 inch hole saw and a 1" spade, ...drill and a few other things. The cases at Mountainmods are nice. How about this one?

 

[Infrnl]

Thats a nice case. I just got done over at XS where the guy is using one of those with the pedestal option as a separate unit housing 4x 3 120 rads plus a fifth rad in the case itself. Very nice looking build so far.

Anyway; the guy said the case is about 6months old; ped is 4 months old. He wants $475 shipped. I am thinking of getting it. Its a big case and will fit my needs for quite some time. Plus I have a killer Idea for it brewing in my head. I will sleep on it an let you know my decision.
I also think it will be better to get a case first while I fully plan out my system and save to get all the parts.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Yeah, the case first and then create ideas on how to construct your loop

It takes some time just sitting and imagining where parts can go etc. I still have ideas floating around in my head about making it the most efficient etc

Cool, let us know!

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: daw123

Originally posted by: Gillbot
You sir have just gotten AIGO'ED!

I happens to us all eventually

Some of us it happens multiple times! :shocked:

I need to post pics of my 2nd build. It's comprised of mostly 2nd hand and left over parts but it's Aigo inspired none the less!

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
ok, good, i was just checking to make sure

as i was thinking about it, i started to wonder about the barbs and the material they are made out of too,.... makes me wonder if that'll cause a problem... - Aigo, thoughs?

brass and chrome plated, or nickle plated.

as long as its brass, wont run into any problems.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
ok, good, i was just checking to make sure

as i was thinking about it, i started to wonder about the barbs and the material they are made out of too,.... makes me wonder if that'll cause a problem... - Aigo, thoughs?

brass and chrome plated, or nickle plated.

as long as its brass, wont run into any problems.

but can you mix brass and copper?

 

[aigomorla]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass

Brass is any alloy of copper and zinc

so yeah id hope you can mix it.

 

[Infrnl]

Nice to know!

Ok, back to my case situation. I am going to call MM tomorrow hopefully cause I want to change out the rear plate on the case linked with the duality back and second mobo tray. Have sweet plan brewing!

http://img519.imageshack.us/im...829/mmu2ufowpedza0.jpg

If the panels cost too much i will have one built to my exact likings and suck up the $600 plus for the case and Ped. from the way I see it, the case will last a very very long time for my needs and If I chose to change, It should offer me endless possibilties; so it will be worth the cost in the long run. I have had my current case (wifes now) for at least 4 yrs now; so I am not one to upgrade the case too often. Internals are what matters.

Another thing about this case the guy is selling is that most of the rad slots are for Thermochill rads spacing; on the ped I think 1 is swiftech and other is thermochill.
I am not sure I want to pay the preium for thermochill/feser rads.

I can buy 2 swiftechs (which should prvide better cooling) for less than the price of 1 thermochill. With that case design; I could easily run 6 or more rads if I had to.
So I am seriously just considering having my own built. also thinking of going brushed aluminum or anodized black rather tham mirror black. My current TT case is a brushed alum and i really like it; was thinking black this time, but high gloss black is bad news to me (finger prints galore, scratches, etc.). The bad thing is everyone is doing black now. Might just get their basick brushed aluminum and have it painted to my likings...Burnt orange or something that most do not have.

What do you guys think? Once I decide or possibly create my own; I will post it to get your opinions and I will tell you why I chose what I did.

INFRNL

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Its great and offers a bunch of H20 cooling options. I personally enjoy creating my own; drilling out the holes, imagining tube routes, and just the plain old time spent into it. And the added benefit of the know how is what is the real gold of it. Some people have the time for it and some don't while others chose computer building as a hobby. For me, its a hobby. Personally, I like the case I linked you from Mountain mods. That is brushed aluminum and is H20 cooling ready: but would take the fun out of building... Its up to you man, just think ahead!

I went from a PC-60 silver aluminum (7yrs old) to a black PC-v1100b black aluminum, back to a silver aluminum (PC -A20a) all Lian Li...

Good Luck man :beer:

 

[Infrnl]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
Its great and offers a bunch of H20 cooling options. I personally enjoy creating my own; drilling out the holes, imagining tube routes, and just the plain old time spent into it. And the added benefit of the know how is what is the real gold of it. Some people have the time for it and some don't while others chose computer building as a hobby. For me, its a hobby. Personally, I like the case I linked you from Mountain mods. That is brushed aluminum and is H20 cooling ready: but would take the fun out of building... Its up to you man, just think ahead!

I went from a PC-60 silver aluminum (7yrs old) to a black PC-v1100b black aluminum, back to a silver aluminum (PC -A20a) all Lian Li...

Good Luck man :beer:

Your not helping, lol
From what I have sen most people take a basic case and make minor changes to its original look. Most Modifying I really se is maybe cutting the top to mount a rad. The rest is all in the very creative ideas inside the case.
I honestly am not a big fan of mounting the rad on top of a case because you are pulling fresh air in through the hot rad and filling the case with hot air and relying on 1 fan basically to exhaust it out. and if you do a dual rad most mount them in front adding more air for the 1 exhaust fan to pull the hot air out.
I am sure its all fine being that thousands of people do it. I prefer to have fans on the top for exhaust as well since hot air rises.

I dont know I have lots to learn and have never done this.

My current thought is to get an Acension made to my liking and make it with the duality option and run 2 watercooled systems within 1 case. But then I think will I ever really need 2 systems for myself? but I could later customize my office and run my system and wifes system from the 1 case. I think it would be a pretty sweet build, but am not sure.

Price wise If I end up going MM case even if I ran 2 of the ones you linked, would end up about the same price. but I think the Acension with Pedestal for the same price will give me many more options.

EDIT: Now that I think about it; I dont think the one you linked will work for me. I need 2 bays for Burners. Also being that these cases do not have USB or Audio means i need anothe bay for that and at least 1 or 2 bays for Digital fan controller/ temp monitors

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

First let me just say those fans on my rad are blowing out, like a whale blow hole, hah but no, i wouldn't have it exhausting into the case. I still have my vid card cooling on air and i want to keep that quiet.

Yeah, now I'm starting to see other potentials of that case, hmm. Btw, you could do an external DVD burner by USB That's how I've done it for the longest and they are convenient. But on old mobo's the bios sometimes won't allow you to boot from the USB and the only time that can be a problem is when doing an OS install.

So you are going to have one custom made? What about that guys case for 600$ er 470$?

 

[Infrnl]

Is it ok to have the fans blow the warm air out through the rad; I have heard that you always want fresh air to blow through the rad?

Also on the case; I was thinking of getting one of the CYO casesand CYO pedestal which with my options comes to $600something. might have the plexi etched as well.

I could probably make the guys case work if I had to ($475ish shipped), but think for a little more I can get a little larger case that will fully house 2 complets systems watercooled.

I can make the same case he's selling with some changes and dual mobo setup for approx $600ish which is about what it will be if I buy his and get the new back plate and mobo tray.

Also I dont know if I mentioned it, I will have to relook, but his is setup for 2 thermochill rads and 2 swiftech rads. I think I should go all swiftech to save money and could double them up if need be and get better performance than the thermochills (I think).
2 swiftech 3x120 $96; 1 thermochill pa120.3 $120.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Wow, that's some good researching there. Yeah, in the end it sounds like you will be better off getting one customized. That'll be a very interesting looking case

As far as I know there shouldn't be any warm air in the case because the heat will be carried out by the water to the rad then cooled by the fans exhausting air from the front 5 1/4 bays I think I might have to buy some vented ones from Lian Li though. O wait, I have a 3 drive cooling bay from Lian Li already that I was planning on using, hah, totally forgot about it. As a matter of fact the cage has a 120mm fan blowing towards where the drive cage use to be. I modded it. So, that'll help bring in the cool air

 

[Infrnl]

Nice. I keep an eye out for your progress. will also think of things to mess with your mind

 

[aigomorla]

funny how you went from a moderate budget, to an excessively large budget. :X

 

[Infrnl]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
funny how you went from a moderate budget, to an excessively large budget. :X

You like that:laugh:
Thats how I get; especially after talking to you and researching items or going over to XS and looking throught the worklogs.

in the end I will probably settle somewhere in the middle ond go from there

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: Infrnl

Originally posted by: aigomorla
funny how you went from a moderate budget, to an excessively large budget. :X

You like that:laugh:
Thats how I get; especially after talking to you and researching items or going over to XS and looking throught the worklogs.

in the end I will probably settle somewhere in the middle ond go from there

Further evidence of an Aigo invasion.

 

[Infrnl]

:laugh:small update courtesy of AIGO messing up my budget:| J/K

Beginner...CPU Loop only!

Koolance CPU-350AC (Buying Direct;LOWEST price)

Remaining parts listing (Buying From Sidewinder, Lowest Prices)

Swiftech: MCP-355

XSPC : Res Top

Feser : TFC-360

Still researching fans, fittings/ accessories, etc.

Also pulling my hair out about case; however I am justifying the price of the Mountain Mods cases.
Originally I was thinking TJ-07 approx 350, Lian-Li A77 approx 300. so a little more for twice the case is not bad.
Just need to figure out what I really want, need and future plans.
Will keep you posted.

 

[Gillbot]

I like Yate Loon fans: http://jab-tech.com/YATE-LOON-120mm-Case-Fan-D12SH-12-High-Speed-pr-3771.html

Barbs, get DD Fat Boys: http://www.jab-tech.com/Danger...-1-2-Barb-pr-4181.html

Not sure what other accessories you want/need.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Originally posted by: Gillbot
Barbs, get DD Fat Boys: http://www.jab-tech.com/Danger...-1-2-Barb-pr-4181.html

+1

 

[Infrnl]

Originally posted by: Gillbot
I like Yate Loon fans: http://jab-tech.com/YATE-LOON-120mm-Case-Fan-D12SH-12-High-Speed-pr-3771.html

Barbs, get DD Fat Boys: http://www.jab-tech.com/Danger...-1-2-Barb-pr-4181.html

Not sure what other accessories you want/need.

ok; you say yate loons; Aigo says Skythe Kaze
will check them both out

Are those DD fat boys the same as the BP Fatboys? they are the same price
http://www.mountainmods.com/bi...-12-fitting-p-446.html
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/big1sishfifo.html

 

[Gillbot]

Aigo has caviar taste, I have bologna. Note the price difference in what he prefers vs. mine.