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trenchfoot

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Been following Sully Dawg for awhile. His clips utilizing plastic cups to explain various political situations in layman's terms is pretty effective. And a lot of it revolves around Trump's criminal behavior.

 
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sandorski

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Abwx said:
He doesnt call himself an american on a daily basis because his country has a name, but he reminded me that, like the US inhabitants, he s also an american as an inhabitant of north America, and that he dont like reading "american' when one is talking of an US citizen or anything US related, and indeed, is there more northern that a canadian in North America.?.
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When someone says "American", they are talking about US citizens. We(Canadians) don't identify Continentaly the way Europeans do. We recognize the reality of it, but it is never used to identify "Canadians" and only is used in relation to US centered discussion.
 
Brovane

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In more Venezuelan news, apparently Trump thinks we are going to control VZ oil.

10% for the "Big Guy"?

Trump Team Works Up Sweeping Plan to Control Venezuelan Oil for Years to Come


The U.S. Pumps More Crude Than Anyone Else. Here’s Why It Wants Venezuela’s Too.

About 70% of U.S. refining capacity runs most efficiently with heavier crude, according to the American Fuel & Petrochemical Manufacturers, a trade group. Those plants are concentrated on the Gulf Coast, where nine of the country’s 10 largest refineries are located.

Consumers Love Cheap Gas, but the Oil Patch Will Pay the Price

Yeah, lower oil prices are not going to help US Shale Oil.

Tommy Norris explaining oil prices.
 
K1052

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Brovane said:
In more Venezuelan news, apparently Trump thinks we are going to control VZ oil.

10% for the "Big Guy"?

Trump Team Works Up Sweeping Plan to Control Venezuelan Oil for Years to Come


The U.S. Pumps More Crude Than Anyone Else. Here’s Why It Wants Venezuela’s Too.

About 70% of U.S. refining capacity runs most efficiently with heavier crude, according to the American Fuel & Petrochemical Manufacturers, a trade group. Those plants are concentrated on the Gulf Coast, where nine of the country’s 10 largest refineries are located.

Consumers Love Cheap Gas, but the Oil Patch Will Pay the Price

Yeah, lower oil prices are not going to help US Shale Oil.

Tommy Norris explaining oil prices.
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Trump has said he wants $50 oil which lmao to all the oil guys who funded him.


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eelw

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Wow these last few pages full of rubbish. But is he European or a Canadian? Sorry Americans, this weirdo doesn’t speak for the rest of us Canadians. Babbles worse than fortune cookie posts
 
Jaskalas

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Fox News host declares war on human life, when explaining America's role in the world. Guess our nation is to simply kill everyone it can.

Fox News host Will Cain: "There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest." ​

There was a time when conquest was celebrated, for God, for king, for glory, for Americans. There's no such thing as stolen land. There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest. And if it serves Americans, then so be it. We rule the jungle. We are the lion. ​
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amenx

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Jaskalas said:
Fox News host declares war on human life, when explaining America's role in the world. Guess our nation is to simply kill everyone it can.

Fox News host Will Cain: "There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest." ​

There was a time when conquest was celebrated, for God, for king, for glory, for Americans. There's no such thing as stolen land. There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest. And if it serves Americans, then so be it. We rule the jungle. We are the lion. ​
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Basiclly the Israeli position. Which directly or indirectly steered certain media outlets and opinion makers to adopt and normalize.
 
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Jaskalas said:
Fox News host declares war on human life, when explaining America's role in the world. Guess our nation is to simply kill everyone it can.

Fox News host Will Cain: "There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest." ​

There was a time when conquest was celebrated, for God, for king, for glory, for Americans. There's no such thing as stolen land. There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest. And if it serves Americans, then so be it. We rule the jungle. We are the lion. ​
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How long before they claim we can do whatever we want because we are superior ubermensch? Seems like they're just about there...
 
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amenx said:
Basiclly the Israeli position. Which directly or indirectly steered certain media outlets and opinion makers to adopt and normalize.
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It's amazing how you are able to make everything about Israel when this has zero to do with them. The US even attempting to adhere to a rules based order as a hegemonic power is 100% the exception, not the rule.

This viewpoint long, LONG predates Israel as a state and is in fact the default position of powerful countries.
 
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Jaskalas said:
Fox News host declares war on human life, when explaining America's role in the world. Guess our nation is to simply kill everyone it can.

Fox News host Will Cain: "There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest." ​

There was a time when conquest was celebrated, for God, for king, for glory, for Americans. There's no such thing as stolen land. There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest. And if it serves Americans, then so be it. We rule the jungle. We are the lion. ​
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We are the lion.
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Nordics: Allow me to introduce us. We are ELEPHANTS! Dare to enter here *points Greenland* AND WE WILL STOMP YOU!!! *goes nuclear*
 
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fskimospy said:
It's amazing how you are able to make everything about Israel when this has zero to do with them. The US even attempting to adhere to a rules based order as a hegemonic power is 100% the exception, not the rule.

This viewpoint long, LONG predates Israel as a state and is in fact the default position of powerful countries.
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The "US even attempting to adhere to a rules based order as a hegemonic power is 100% the exception" is not true. They have a a history of trying to uphold and abide by international law and use it in their favor (ie, runup to 2003 Iraq war, Persian Gulf war before it, the Ukraine war, Balkans war in the 90s). The US was one of the biggest proponents of the "rules based order" after WW2 and the establisment of the UN.

The US has largely stuck to that as they've seen it as ultimately more in their interest than not. The "exceptions" were when they flouted 'the rules based order' for self interest as they've done in South America mostly decades ago. And more recently when Trump took office.

The Israeli position otoh is and was based on conquest and flagrant disregard of international law since its birth. Succeding US govts have enabled that so frequently over the decades (while knowing it harms their cred and standing). Could this have not eventually influenced the US to act along similar lines? And have you not understood the terms "directly or indirectly"?

Some of Trumps advisors are in place due to the influence of big Zio donors like Miriam Adelson. Maybe they had little or nothing to do with the VZ thing, but I would be hard pressed to say the same about Greenland (where ultra-Zionist Ronald Lauder is involved). Whether that goes through or not remains to be seen. And you seem oblivious as to how the complete breakdown of the rules based order would of such tremendous benefit to Israel as it would remove any obstructions to them just seizing more territory which they've already been doing in Syria. It would basically enable their Greater Israel project to go full steam ahead.

I know you get upset when Israel is referenced because in some way you're still sentamentally attached to the Zio state and do not like to hear negative things about it.
 
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fskimospy said:
It's amazing how you are able to make everything about Israel when this has zero to do with them. The US even attempting to adhere to a rules based order as a hegemonic power is 100% the exception, not the rule.

This viewpoint long, LONG predates Israel as a state and is in fact the default position of powerful countries.
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It's a valid point as Israel is basically the only other western power (ok Israel is a hybrid country of east and west but we are their biggest ally as well) besides the US right now committing major crimes against humanity and/or breaking international law on such a high scale.

Current events are without a doubt some of the best examples to use really. Poor point.

Israel and the US are evil nations at this point in time. There are others like Russia of course. But they are all the same at their core.
 
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Jaskalas said:
Fox News host declares war on human life, when explaining America's role in the world. Guess our nation is to simply kill everyone it can.

Fox News host Will Cain: "There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest." ​

There was a time when conquest was celebrated, for God, for king, for glory, for Americans. There's no such thing as stolen land. There's no such thing as international law. There is only such thing as conquest. And if it serves Americans, then so be it. We rule the jungle. We are the lion. ​
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K1052

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DZero said:
The issue? Trump will find friends to do it, even if they are not the traditional ones.
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I doubt it. These guys hate losing money and this really looks like a loser.

My bet is that Chevron basically on its own ends up handling all PDVSA's exports (they already do 25% VZ oil output) which will flow mostly into the US. For which the VZ government, not Trump, will be paid market rates. They make some modest investments in VZ oil infrastructure but nothing close to the billions people are thinking about.
 
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amenx said:
The "US even attempting to adhere to a rules based order as a hegemonic power is 100% the exception" is not true. They have a a history of trying to uphold and abide by international law and use it in their favor (ie, runup to 2003 Iraq war, Persian Gulf war before it, the Ukraine war, Balkans war in the 90s). The US was one of the biggest proponents of the "rules based order" after WW2 and the establisment of the UN.

The US has largely stuck to that as they've seen it as ultimately more in their interest than not. The "exceptions" were when they flouted 'the rules based order' for self interest as they've done in South America mostly decades ago. And more recently when Trump took office.

The Israeli position otoh is and was based on conquest and flagrant disregard of international law since its birth. Succeding US govts have enabled that so frequently over the decades (while knowing it harms their cred and standing). Could this have not eventually influenced the US to act along similar lines? And have you not understood the terms "directly or indirectly"?

Some of Trumps advisors are in place due to the influence of big Zio donors like Miriam Adelson. Maybe they had little or nothing to do with the VZ thing, but I would be hard pressed to say the same about Greenland (where ultra-Zionist Ronald Lauder is involved). Whether that goes through or not remains to be seen. And you seem oblivious as to how the complete breakdown of the rules based order would of such tremendous benefit to Israel as it would remove any obstructions to them just seizing more territory which they've already been doing in Syria. It would basically enable their Greater Israel project to go full steam ahead.

I know you get upset when Israel is referenced because in some way you're still sentamentally attached to the Zio state and do not like to hear negative things about it.
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This is an insane rant. I could not care less about Israel and think their current government is evil.

That being said thank you for displaying your mental illness so we know where you come from going forward.
 
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