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K1052

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Well unfortunately I can’t see china having an issue with this.

I don't think supply will be down for long. No oil infra was hit. Trump clearly wants to make his cut off sales too. Even money the current VZ regime promises him that and whatever else to make him go away and they continue repression biz as usual.
 
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Jaskalas

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Being an American is embarassing and shameful.
We are only human. Like Russians, North Koreans, Iranians, Afghans, Chinese, etc.
The embarrassing part was when we role-played as morally superior and better than anyone else.
The killing and enslavement of others is simply what humans do. Have always done. Will almost always keep doing.

Modern Western Civilization is an aberration in an otherwise perfect record. We will return to "normal" and discard human rights, rule of law, etc.
 
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ivwshane

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Whats to stop someone from snatching trump and vance? Everyone and anyone is fair game based on these actions (yes i know theres the practicality, or lack of, for such things)

What’s to stop them? Anyone who would want to already knows Trump is doing more damage to America than any other country could do on their own. They want him in power to weaken us and trump is more than happy to oblige.
 

eelw

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What’s to stop them? Anyone who would want to already knows Trump is doing more damage to America than any other country could do on their own. They want him in power to weaken us and trump is more than happy to oblige.
Yup any country that would stoop to these tactics want this to continue. Well maybe next G7 or NATO summit, they arrest the orange monkey
 

ivwshane

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I’m amazed about how accurate our forefathers were when then voiced their concern about a strongman leader being elected and how a standing army would lead to presidents using it to their own advantage. They were only human though and even their brilliant foresight couldn’t come up with a way to ensure today’s events and politics never happened.

2nd amendment remedies here we come!
 
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ivwshane

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You guys realize ... that no-one stopped him right? No where in the chain of command .. or House Senate, the administration, intelligence agencies... All of them lined up and yessir'.

Yeah, he learned to fix that with his second term.
 

amenx

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Next: China > Taiwan, US> Greenland, Israel> Syria

and just maybe, Russia > rest of Ukraine
 

cytg111

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I glazed over this a couple days back ... But it seems like the poles are actually shifting in realtime right now

Donald Trump sparks alarm with mystery 'inauguration' plan in new $400M ballroom​



Fourth Reich Rising !!!
 
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People are gonna have to talk about how JSOC is an ICE/CBP level problem and should be disbanded.
The whole "warrior ethos" and "cult of the operator" mentality being perpetuated throughout the military and planners is a general anethema to the country and is doing long-term damage too. Foresaking the idea of the citizen soldier is bad for us all.
 
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Lifer
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This is a sign they are not remotely close to their hiring goals.
It takes time to build a private army?
Their budget only eclipsed the Russian Military when the BBB was passed.
They have the money to dangle in front of people. And there are plenty of Trump voters who want to play gestapo.

Do not underestimate ICE's role, when the JCOS green light unlawful commands.
They violate other countries ad hoc. They sure as hell will violate the United States. With plenty of muscle to back up their coup.

The US attack on Venezuela is more a story of the US and how far we have fallen. This tale is far from over. More people will understand this if they lose an election and once more decide not to accept it.
 
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eelw

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You guys realize ... that no-one stopped him right? No where in the chain of command .. or House Senate, the administration, intelligence agencies... All of them lined up and yessir'.
Well congress critters weren’t even informed. The gang of 8 only told of it after it has started. Yes cabinet full of butt kissers. The sad thing is military. Generals that did push back in first term have been replaced