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The gang gets a coast guard cutter torpedoed by the Russians has entered the chat.


While watching the WSJ video explaining the Russian shadow fleet (because of a price cap at 60$ a barrel)
It is interesting that the Arab oil nations ; Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. , buy discounted Russian oil as well to use domestically. And then sell their own produced oil to western countries like in Europe, probably at a higher price as well. This since the Ukranian war and sanctions to Russia.
The U.E.A. stores all Russian oil. Highly likely to be later sold as their own produced oil or just blending the Russian oil products with their own oil products. How gullable can European politicians be ?
That WSJ news video is so funny to watch. :D
From the WSJ website :
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A shadow fleet of oil tankers is forging closer ties between Russia, Saudi Arabia and the U.A.E. WSJ explains how oil-rich nations in the Middle East are facilitating Russia’s oil trade despite Western efforts to curb the Kremlin’s energy revenues. Photos:
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Muse

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I like this comment to an opinion piece at the NYTimes:

Tim B
California 7h ago

You promised to fix America and delivered Grand Theft Diplomacy, steal territory, wreck alliances, blame everyone else.

You're underwater on the economy, healthcare costs are squeezing families, cities are unsettled, and the core promises that got you elected are still waiting to be kept. So instead of governing, you go globe-trotting in your imagination, running Venezuela, flirting with invading Greenland, and treating foreign policy like a hostile takeover pitch.

As even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board points out, Greenland is strategically important. Adults handle that with diplomacy, investment, and cooperation with allies. You, however, let aides float military force against a NATO partner, rattling Denmark and openly undermining the alliance that protects U.S. security. That’s not strength, it’s recklessness dressed up as bravado.

And while you posture, Putin gets exactly what he wants: a divided West, frayed alliances, and less leverage for Ukraine. You aren’t projecting American power, you’re discounting it.

Then you complain about losing the midterms and facing impeachment? This is why. Voters asked for lower costs, stability, and competence. They didn’t ask for imperial cosplay, Greenland saber-rattling, or Venezuela as a vanity project.

You ran to be president of the United States, not CEO of a global chaos franchise. Fix what’s broken at home, work with allies abroad, and stop confusing bullying with leadership.

And start ignoring Stephen Miller.

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VRAMdemon

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My question here is actually how a rusty POS with a 9kt top speed evaded the US Navy all the way across the Atlantic from Venezuela.

A tanker doing 10 knots evaded US military for two weeks. Was OJ Simpson the Captain?

That oil tanker never had a chance when a staggering Pete Hegseth in jams and flip flops boarded and took over the ship with nothing but a crossbow.
 

mikeymikec

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My question here is actually how a rusty POS with a 9kt top speed evaded the US Navy all the way across the Atlantic from Venezuela.

When you're playing Battleship on a board the size of the Atlantic, winning takes a while?
 

K1052

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I think if I'm the VZ regime I agree to whatever they want, do none of it, and wait for these freaks to get distracted by their random invasion of Montreal because the mayor made fun of Trump's dancing.
 

UNCjigga

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Coming soon to the Gulf of America…the world’s worst oil spill…

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Seriously, I really hope they offload the seized oil into modern American-flagged tankers before sailing them over to our ports. Who wants these rust buckets in the Gulf?

If there’s an environmental disaster, the Administration will try to rename it to “Gulf of Mexico” to avoid responsibility for the cleanup lol.
 

UNCjigga

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Chinese refiners already on the case. I assume they can get a healthy discount from Iran on this grade.

America just gave China and Iran exactly what it needs to build a powerful Central Asian trading bloc and cut the US entirely out of the diplomatic process. They will build the proposed Peace pipeline between Iran and Pakistan, with support from New Delhi, Moscow, the Taliban, and other former Soviet central Asian stans.

Peace and prosperity for the oligarchs, dictators and militant groups in power—and plenty of funding for their terror proxies.
 

outriding

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Diversity is our strength and this thread is very diverse...in opinions.

Sadly we lost our greater strength about 40 years ago, unity. Unity is the strongest strength. Too much diversity leads to conflict, indecisivenes and derision.

We stand united in removing Maduro and ridding the world of drugs. Or do

Maduro wasn't the lawful elected leader of VZ.

Neither was Joe biden*

But no other countries came over and took him out










* according to some people
 
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Jaskalas

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America just gave China and Iran exactly what it needs to build a powerful Central Asian trading bloc and cut the US entirely out of the diplomatic process.
A united Asia has a real chance of winning WW3.
Given the state of Europe and the US. We may not even be contenders ere long.
 

mikeymikec

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We stand united in removing Maduro and ridding the world of drugs. Or do we?

I'm going to assume one of the following possibilities are true:

1 - You're extremely naive and would fail to provide even the most basic summary of America's foreign policies over the last 40 years
2 - You were laughing your ass off when you wrote this.
 
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Fenixgoon

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I'm going to assume one of the following possibilities are true:

1 - You're extremely naive and would fail to provide even the most basic summary of America's foreign policies over the last 40 years
2 - You were laughing your ass off when you wrote this.
Definitely #1.
The war on drugs is a failure. If only there were some analogue in the annals of US history. Perhaps there was a time when we prohibited a popular vice?
 
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nakedfrog

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I'm going to assume one of the following possibilities are true:

1 - You're extremely naive and would fail to provide even the most basic summary of America's foreign policies over the last 40 years
2 - You were laughing your ass off when you wrote this.
He's either doing a bit or is utterly bereft of critical thinking and intellectual honesty.
The other part of that post of his could easily be rephrased as "women and minorities need to STFU and let wealthy straight white Christian men dictate everything".
 
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Muse

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He's either doing a bit or is utterly bereft of critical thinking and intellectual honesty.
The other part of that post of his could easily be rephrased as "women and minorities need to STFU and let wealthy straight white Christian men dictate everything".
Don't feed the trolls.
 
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DZero

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America just gave China and Iran exactly what it needs to build a powerful Central Asian trading bloc and cut the US entirely out of the diplomatic process. They will build the proposed Peace pipeline between Iran and Pakistan, with support from New Delhi, Moscow, the Taliban, and other former Soviet central Asian stans.

Peace and prosperity for the oligarchs, dictators and militant groups in power—and plenty of funding for their terror proxies.
Well..... if USA and Russia ends into an agreement, China and Europe would see a potential cartel on there and even worse, the Arabs would join and checkmate for everyone...
 
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Just when i think Marcio Rubio is scary, Along comes Pete Hegseth...

Interview with Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth.
One thing you can say is that they are sure chauvinistic.