[Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

[Kenmitch]

Even in AMD's sponsored AotS it's doing very well, much better than Maxwell. There could be room for improvement with new drivers too.

And overall it's 25-30% faster than Fury X in DX12 according to HardwareCanucks.

Did you link the wrong image? Using your image 8%? faster than Fury X.

Or was it suppose to be comparing to 980Ti?

 

[crisium]

For Founder's Edition and in an old game, yes. Let's try latest DX11/DX12 titles and custom Geforce GTX 1080 instead and then we can draw proper conclusions.

Did you kneejerk reaction to just the benchmark images? I remind you that I also linked computerbase which used a wide assortment of games, and a nonthrottled max 1080 is only 15% faster than a factory OC 980 Ti (NOT Max OC, still room to go). I also acknowledged that Aftermarket 1080 should do better, as well as that it appears to have made extra gains in DX12. I don't think you added anything new here. Time will tell, but for now this card at $700, and arguably even at $600, is certainly underwhelming relative to the $650 980 Ti which has been there for nearly a year.

 

[thesmokingman]

Did you link the wrong image? Using your image 8%? faster than Fury X.

Or was it suppose to be comparing to 980Ti?

lol he kinda sank his own point.

 

[Azix]

It would be hilarious if the Founders Edition turned out to be base price when the custom cards come in. nvidia basically would have found a way to fake MSRP while charging more. Or there could be some really barebones 1080 cards for that lower msrp. Obviously this FE is not a great card like they said it was. Its a basic reference card that is noisy and throttles.

Why should the partners price less than it? If it REALLY does require that price to be profitable, why would they at all? If FE was limited edition, that would make much more sense.

 

[crisium]

I think the AIB reference clones will be $600 or close to it. Then the AIBs will compete with themselves for AR ranging from ~$620 to perhaps well over $700. AIB competition may be the consumers best friend here.

 

[Sweepr]

lol he kinda sank his own point.

 

[exar333]

I think the AIB reference clones will be $600 or close to it. Then the AIBs will compete with themselves for AR ranging from ~$620 to perhaps well over $700. AIB competition may be the consumers best friend here.

Agree with this.

You may see some price inflation due to demand up-front, but we see that with almost every major launch. That's just capitalism. I really do think prices will settle down to the MSRP with base offerings.

 

[Azix]

I think the AIB reference clones will be $600 or close to it. Then the AIBs will compete with themselves for AR ranging from ~$620 to perhaps well over $700. AIB competition may be the consumers best friend here.

if they can afford it. If nvidia has to sell the card at $700 for profit, partners won't have much room themselves to sell for lower at profit

 

[exar333]

This is about 100% faster than the a 970 at 1440P. That is about what I was looking for in terms of performance gains for my next card. Not disappointed...guesstimating the 1070 will be 70-80% faster vs. the 970. That's a nice jump considering you can offload that for ~$200.

 

[thesmokingman]

AIB cards will be better than reference. The question is, why would AIB partners sell a better card for 100 less than the FE?

 

[Bacon1]

Pretty dissapointed.

Price/Perf is terrible for a new gen on big die shrink.

Sounds like the cooler is garbage as well.

In idle the card is very quiet, but is lacking the idle-fan-off feature that nearly every board vendor has been using for their GeForce 900 cards.

During gaming the fan ramps up noticeably and is definitely audible, but not in an annoying way. In terms of noise levels it is comparable to previous NVIDIA reference designs. In the past we've seen much better noise levels from custom board vendors, reaching as low as 30 dBA. When looking at the GTX 980 reference design noise, the new GTX 1080 cooler is noisier, despite both cards producing the same heat output because power consumption is nearly identical.

Temperatures are not amazing either, with the card reaching above 80°C during gaming, so overall I'd say the cooler is the weakest point of the GTX 1080.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/25.html

The are plenty of innovations here. The 1080 is the first graphics card based on Nvidia's new Pascal architecture, the first with GDDR5X memory from Micron, and the first to be manufactured on a smaller, more efficient TSMC 16nm FinFET manufacturing process. Despite this, the 1080's performance gains aren't entirely unheard of. The 680 was roughly 30 percent faster than the 580, as was the 780 over the 680. The latter didn't even feature a brand new manufacturing process.

Worst of all, however, is the price. Nvidia has jacked up the cost of the 1080 (and the upcoming 1070) by £35/$50 more than the previous generation while also introducing a frankly ludicrous £188 premium for its reference cards (now dubbed "Founders Edition"). These cards will be the only ones available at launch on May 27. US folks get off lightly with a mere $100 price hike.

This is the sort of price rise that only a company without competition could get away with. If AMD's Fury range had fared better, perhaps Nvidia might have pushed the 1080 further or been more aggressive on price. After years of promises, isn't it about time we had a single GPU card capable of playing high-settings games above 30FPS in 4K?

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/05/nvidia-gtx-1080-review/

Performance isn't that much better than the custom 980 TIs for cheaper :\

The current AMD lineup is already better price/perf, Polaris doesn't even need to come in cheap as long as it can offer the exact same performance as current cards... Very dissapointing

 

[moonbogg]

Yeah its faster, but an OC'd 980ti is basically a stock 1080. The 1080 delivers a bump in performance, but its not a generational leap in any way. Not enough performance for $6-700, but still a great card in it's own right.

 

[Arachnotronic]

AIB cards will be better than reference. The question is, why would AIB partners sell a better card for 100 less than the FE?

They won't. I think we will see barebones aftermarket at $599 with crappy coolers and then $750+ for the really good stuff.

 

[Despoiler]

Good card, but FE pricing is too much for what you get. I also think that decent or better after market cards will be closer to FE pricing rather than MSRP. The FE price is effectively a second MSRP for after market cards. Reference cards will be the MSRP. The below has an example of what you will see for MSRP. It looks cheap. It's not going to be a great OC'er.

http://wccftech.com/custom-gtx-1080-galax-pictured/

 

[Eymar]

Pretty dissapointed.

Price/Perf is terrible for a new gen on big die shrink.

Sounds like the cooler is garbage as well.

Yeah, seems like 980 all over again. If someone buys this card for performance you will most likely upgrade it when the big chips come along.

 

[FatherMurphy]

They won't. I think we will see barebones aftermarket at $599 with crappy coolers and then $750+ for the really good stuff.

In the past, you could get some custom coolers at the reference price or $10/$20 more. I will be sorely disappointed** if I can't find an EVGA ACX 1080 (or whatever the "base" ACX cooler model is) for $610 or $620 (at least after the initial rush and supplies even out).

**By "sorely disappointed," I mean not buying a 1080 if the more vanilla custom versions don't come in under $630.

 

[thesmokingman]

They won't. I think we will see barebones aftermarket at $599 with crappy coolers and then $750+ for the really good stuff.

FE cooler is pretty crap to begin with, though not 290x crap but it ain't worth a 100 premium, a Lightning cooler it is not.

 

[Bacon1]

They won't. I think we will see barebones aftermarket at $599 with crappy coolers and then $750+ for the really good stuff.

Yep, have a feeling Nvidia released that MSRP just to try and get better price/perf graphs for those reviewers that fall for it. The cooler is nothing special as Techpowerup pointed out, it throttles due to thermals.

 

[wilds]

If I was a 980 ti owner, I'd be happy to wait a year for the 1080 ti or Vega. I really hope Maxwell can stay competetive for the next 6 months minimum.

Overall, the 1080 is a solid step up for anyone not on a 980 ti/Fury.

What are the chances of an AIB GTX 970 with GDDR5X? Would Nvidia allow such an abomination to exist?

Can't wait to see custom OC'd 1080's consuming ~400w and annihilating all previous scoreboards.

 

[Arachnotronic]

FE cooler is pretty crap to begin with, though not 290x crap but it ain't worth a 100 premium, a Lightning cooler it is not.

Yeah, it's not really as great as what I think we'll see from the likes of ASUS, MSI, etc. for their top models. NVIDIA made some improvements compared to previous reference designs, but I think the custom PCB models will be the ones that most people will want to get if they want max performance.

 

[Despoiler]

If I was a 980 ti owner, I'd be happy to wait a year for the 1080 ti or Vega. I really hope Maxwell can stay competetive for the next 6 months minimum.

Overall, the 1080 is a solid step up for anyone not on a 980 ti/Fury.

What are the chances of an AIB GTX 970 with GDDR5X? Would Nvidia allow such an abomination to exist?

Can't wait to see custom OC'd 1080's consuming ~400w and annihilating all previous scoreboards.

I think you meant 1070. MSI is supposedly coming out with a 1070 that has 5X memory.

 

[mohit9206]

Good idea to create a separate review thread.
I can't imagine the media uproar and backlash that AMD would have received had they been the first to come up with the idea of selling reference model for $100 more. The backlash would probably have been so intense that AMD would have no option but to withdraw the idea completely.
But Nvdia can get away with it because Nvdia is the Apple of the graphics industry.
In my opinion Gtx1080 provides acceptable performance if it were $600 but at $700 it is unacceptable.
But waiting for $600 custom models is recommended but i think only lower end brands like Zotac, Galax, Palit, Gainward etc will sell it closer to $600 while brands like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Evga, etc will sell their custom models closer to $700.

 

[railven]

In the past, you could get some custom coolers at the reference price or $10/$20 more. I will be sorely disappointed** if I can't find an EVGA ACX 1080 (or whatever the "base" ACX cooler model is) for $610 or $620 (at least after the initial rush and supplies even out).

**By "sorely disappointed," I mean not buying a 1080 if the more vanilla custom versions don't come in under $630.

That's reasonable.

NV branded GPU's existed on the side of custom AIB cards for almost a half decade. They also cost more.

I didn't see the AIB rush to charge more because someone could buy the NV branded for $50-100 more.

I get the feeling nothing will change, or rather I'm hoping.

 

[moonbogg]

Yeah, seems like 980 all over again. If someone buys this card for performance you will most likely upgrade it when the big chips come along.

And then again when small Volta comes along. That's the whole idea. $700 twice per generation is better than only once like it used to be (for Nvidia).

 

[Zstream]

I'm just surprised that after a massive node shrink, the performance isn't any better. I think it's Nvidia pushing their architecture to the max. Essentially it's faster memory and better core clocks.

I mean they worked on compression, but what's the point with 8GB of memory?

Let's wait and see what the $200 segment brings. However, with the way people keep older CPU's, I'm more interested in DX12 and the processor relief it brings.