[Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

[Det0x]

Performance is good, but i full heartedly agree with guru3d:

Its simply not worth the money.. Especially when you consider that a max oced 1080 is only ~13% faster then a maxed oced 980ti

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,30.html

On the topic of the Founders Edition with a 100 USD price premium, let me just say this, it is a marketing fail for Nvidia. It was a bit ill-communicated and despite that, you do not price reference products (as premium as you claim them to be) 100 bucks over the AIB/AIC prices.

...Thing is that Nvidia keeps driving the prices upwards. Typically the high-end class product hovers at the 500 USD marker. Nvidia, when they released it, drove the GTX 980 to 549 USD. The GTX 1080 now starts at 599 USD with the reference Founders Edition at a massive 699 USD. For the Founders Edition, that's pretty bad pricing if you ask me.

World prices then (suggested MSRP for Founders edition):

Serbian Dinar RSD 96,900
Czech Koruna CZK 21,400
Danish Krone DKK 6,150
European EUR 789
British Pound GBP 619
Hungarian Forint HUF 259,850
Norwegian Krone NOK 7,599
Polish Zloty PLN 3,599
Romanian New Lei RON 3,499
Russian Rouble RUB 54,990
Indian Rupee INR 63,250
Swedish Krona SEK 7,699
Turkish Lira TRY 2,850
South African Rand ZAR 13,599
Switzerland CHF 790
UAE AED 2,850
USA USD 699

It has been an ongoing trend for a while now. And remember, this is not the enthusiast SKU, that'll be a GTX 1080 Ti / Titan like product and listen closely... the GTX 980 Ti (enthusiast class) started at 699 USD when released, the same price that Nvidia now launches their Founders Edition at. This is the conundrum and dilemma with the GeForce GTX 1080, not the performance, not the product... but the price level. So this is why I ... Keep it in mind, that's all I'm sayin'. It's all about the money money money, right... Jessie?

Like i have been saying for months now..

• reference 1080 is ~25% faster than reference 980Ti

• reference 1080 is ~0-5% faster than then aftermarket 980TI (the actual one that people owns)

• overclocked 1080 is ~10-15% faster than then aftermarket 980TI (~16% increase in boostclock don't mean 16% faster overall)

 

[Arachnotronic]

i cant believe the tech press isnt up in arms about the outrageous price. truly outrageous

$50 more than a 980 Ti at launch and ~30% faster performance. 7.6% more expensive for 30% more performance means perf/$ went up. Not sure why anybody would be "up in arms" over this.

 

[96Firebird]

Incredibly underwhelming.

Says the person who labeled Fury X as "a very good card".

 

[LTC8K6]

Like i have been saying for months now..

reference 1080 is ~25% faster than reference 980Ti

reference 1080 is ~0-5% faster than then aftermarket 980TI (the actual one that people owns)

overclocked 1080 is ~10-15% faster than then aftermarket 980TI (~16% increase in boostclock don't mean 16% faster overall)

But the 1080 is also using less power than the 980ti.

It's also not a ti model.

 

[Sweepr]

Performance is good, but i full heartedly agree with guru3d:

Its simply not worth the money.. Especially when you consider that a max oced *FOUNDERS EDITIONS* 1080 is only ~10-13% faster then a maxed oced 980ti

Fixed it for you. No doubt there will be aftermarket models that hit higher clocks than Founder's Edition, so your comparison will become invalid real quick, and those are expected to be cheaper as well.

And it's certainly more than 10% in recent DX12 titles.

 

[railven]

Was talking to the GF about the reviews. She pointed out something to me

"Weren't you upset that the last AMD card was too loud? You said you'd wait for custom cards, what's the difference now?"

HAHAHA. I guess you pick your poison to be first. Loud card or jacked up price.

The woes of trying to be an early adopter.

 

[AtenRa]

$50 more than a 980 Ti at launch and ~30% faster performance. 7.6% more expensive for 30% more performance means perf/$ went up. Not sure why anybody would be "up in arms" over this.

GTX 680, 30% faster than GTX 580 and cheaper at $450 vs $550

Yea why complain ??

NVIDIA just released their GTX 980 replacement according to themselves and just raised the price. So middle-End is now at $600-700 and nobody should complain.

 

[Genx87]

$50 more than a 980 Ti at launch and ~30% faster performance. 7.6% more expensive for 30% more performance means perf/$ went up. Not sure why anybody would be "up in arms" over this.

Take out the founders edition which doesnt perform any better and the 1080 is 50 bucks less than the 980Ti at launch. Complaints about FE are somewhat valid. Complaints about the non founders edition are silly.

 

[thesmokingman]

But the 1080 is also using less power than the 980ti.

It's also not a ti model.

Power was always a talking point cuz no one spending 799 on a 980ti really cared or not afford the power draw.

Hmm, this means a 1080ti could start at $800. Prices are getting insane Nvidia.

 

[railven]

GTX 680, 30% faster than GTX 580 and cheaper at $450 vs $550

Yea why complain ??

NVIDIA just released their GTX 980 replacement according to themselves and just raised the price. So middle-End is now at $600-700 and nobody should complain.

Thing I keep learning: Middle end is top card, fastest on the market.

Go home Atenra, you're drunk!

 

[Arachnotronic]

GTX 680, 30% faster than GTX 580 and cheaper at $450 vs $550

Yea why complain ??

NVIDIA just released their GTX 980 replacement according to themselves and just raised the price. So middle-End is now at $600-700 and nobody should complain.

Complaining does nothing. Vote with your wallet. If you think it's overpriced for what it offers, by all means don't buy one.

 

[AtenRa]

Thing I keep learning: Middle end is top card, fastest on the market.

Go home Atenra, you're drunk!

GTX 680 was the fastest card back on release in 2012 but it was also cheaper than the last gen High-End (GTX 580).

Let me ask you this, are you expecting the next GP100/102 GPU to raise even higher the price ?? Because you know, it will be the fastest card again.
Ohh, what about after the GP100/102 ?? will the next faster card raise the price once more ???

 

[Genx87]

GTX 680 was the fastest card back on release in 2012 but it was also cheaper than the last gen High-End (GTX 580).

Let me ask you this, are you expecting the next GP100/102 GPU to raise even higher the price ?? Because you know, it will be the fastest card again.
Ohh, what about after the GP100/102 ?? will the next faster card raise the price once more ???

Non-founders edition is 50 bucks less than the former high end 980Ti.

 

[swilli89]

Performance is good, but i full heartedly agree with guru3d:

Its simply not worth the money.. Especially when you consider that a max oced 1080 is only ~13% faster then a maxed oced 980ti

Yeah a ~$500 980ti makes more sense. Same gaming experience for $200 less.

 

[thesmokingman]

Non-founders edition is 50 bucks less than the former high end 980Ti.

Sure however this isn't a 1080ti. Everything has moved up essentially. The new 980 price is moving closer to where the 980ti is.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

Complaining does nothing. Vote with your wallet. If you think it's overpriced for what it offers, by all means don't buy one.

Nobody ever does this though. Just look at all the people who complain about broken games and yet keep preordering them!

I think we need an extra GPU in this lineup. Something like a x70 Ti, because $380 to $600 leaves a pretty large gap. And rumored specs of the 1070 suggest a potentially notable performance gap between the two as well.

 

[railven]

GTX 680 was the fastest card back on release in 2012 but it was also cheaper than the last gen High-End (GTX 580).

No it wasn't. GTX 580 had $500 MSRP, not $450.

Let me ask you this, are you expecting the next GP100/102 GPU to raise even higher the price ?? Because you know, it will be the fastest card again.
Ohh, what about after the GP100/102 ?? will the next faster card raise the price once more ???

Umm, yeah. I do. Why wouldn't I? I know this keeps upsetting you, but for the last 6 years AMD has been upping their top card's price. I wasn't complaining as I was buying them.

You want me to be a hypocrite and only defend AMD when they jack up the price over 50% from one generation to the next?

 

[AtenRa]

Non-founders edition is 50 bucks less than the former high end 980Ti.

When non-founder cards hit the retail at $599 we will talk again. Now the cards reviewed were the Founders Edition at $699.

 

[Genx87]

Sure however this isn't a 1080ti. Everything has moved up essentially. The new 980 price is moving closer to where the 980ti is.

So what? The performance is also 20-30% more. The new high end performance wise is the 1080 and it costs 50 bucks less than the 980Ti.

 

[R0H1T]

So where are the 2.5Ghz non LN2 clocks that were promised by some members here :hmm:

 

[swilli89]

The improved clocks aren't just due to FinFET. There is a lot of work that goes into making an architecture scale to significantly higher clock speeds, far more than I think some appreciate. I don't think a straight port of GM204 to 16FF+ would have given these kinds of clocks at this power consumption.

Yes I believe that's also known as "Craftsmanship", the 4th wonder of Pascal according to great leader:

Threadcrapping and trolling are not allowed
Markfw900

 

[railven]

So where are the 2.5Ghz non LN2 clocks that were promised by some members here :hmm:

Same place 40% faster Fury X than Titan X are.

 

[Genx87]

When non-founder cards hit the retail at $599 we will talk again. Now the cards reviewed were the Founders Edition at $699.

That will be in June. Not very far away. It is a silly argument to keep harping about it costing more when it doesnt, unless people want their cooler.

 

[guskline]

Impressive compared to my GTX 980 TI SC which I paid $629 for a year ago. More and faster ram, better fps in every game stock and a lot of more and newer features.

The obvious question is will I upgrade to it? Well, I still want to water cool and I want a significant jump in performance so the answer now for me is no BUT for the R9 290s in CF in my 4790k rig this sure looks temping to replace them as a single card.

I am trying to hold out for the BIG Vega and since it won't be out for awile, I'm going to see what the aftermarket GTX 1080s bring to the market. This sure is an impressive card at the $699 price (I really doubt $599 is a real price). BTW, for those shouting about an obscene price, consider this is a 16nm card with the latest 8G of newest ram, yes not HBM2 but VERY fast ram.

Obscene would be $999. $699? In my book pretty darn good for all they slapped into it.

 

[AtenRa]

No it wasn't. GTX 580 had $500 MSRP, not $450.

Yeap my bad, both were launched at $499

Umm, yeah. I do. Why wouldn't I? I know this keeps upsetting you, but for the last 6 years AMD has been upping their top card's price. I wasn't complaining as I was buying them.

You want me to be a hypocrite and only defend AMD when they jack up the price over 50% from one generation to the next?

If you search the GCN launch review thread here in AT forums, you will find me complaining about the $549 price of the HD7970.