[Various] NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Review Thread

[MagickMan]

Hope everyone who has a 980TI is still holding on to them, especially if they OC well. Wait for Big Pascal.

 

[railven]

Amazon Prime just saved me $50 dollars on 4 games I was planning on buying anyways. Since I used my Amazon card, I also got 3% back. Something tells me I can afford this $50 price increase without an issue

EDIT:

Hope everyone who has a 980TI is still holding on to them, especially if they OC well. Wait for Big Pascal.

I'm in this boat. My buyer never showed up for the sale

(GF Doesn't seem upset so I'm not sweating it.)

 

[Sweepr]

If you read some reviews from our long list, then you have probably already noticed that GTX 1080 does quite well in overclocking, but many reviewers had trouble achieving the same clocks that were shown during official presentation (~2114 MHz).

The mini test PCGH performed confirmed those observations. The GTX 1080 is either held back by temperature or restrictive power consumption.

As you know reference model is only equipped with one 8pin power connector. In fact even overclocking tools are limited to 120% TDP, which basically means GPU won’t use more than 215W (8pin power connector and the PCI-Express interface can only deliver 225W of power).

Test performed by PCHG brought a simple conclusion; it is not temperature that is keeping GP104 from achieving higher clocks, but board power limit, which can’t be increased unless more power connectors are added. So I’m guessing we need to wait 10 more days to see what custom cards can deliver in this matter.

http://videocardz.com/60151/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-tested-with-aftermarket-cooler

Can't go past 2.1 GHz because it's power limited. Another reason to go custom.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I think most people are too afraid to admit that they do not agree with the 1080's price. Behind closed doors I think if you got all the nVidia faithful, they would all moan a little bit about the price.

I mean we all know nvidia would be very healthy and profitable at $400-500 yet they are charging 30% more. People think that if they admit it sucks to have to pay $700 to get a release 1080 that they are giving the "AMD Camp" a reason to celebrate.

Just be honest and admit it sucks nVidia prices the way it does. Don't justify, don't say well the performance makes it ok, don't compare it to 2015 flagship pricing, just be humble yourselves and admit this sucks.

That's your opinion. I have no problem with the pricing and look forward to placing my orders for a couple of these puppies on the 27th.

 

[Majcric]

Performance is about in line with what I was expecting. The card has higher temperatures than I was expecting to see for a smaller chip. Not a problem at all but thought it was worth a mention.

 

[krumme]

People should know they buy a card that is barely if any faster than fury in future dx12 games. Its a mild facelift of the arch and its hows. If it had real new engine with ace like functionality it would cream the fury in dx12. But it doesnt.

 

[Grooveriding]

Videocardz proving again they are a totally worthless site for information. The pin counts are rated at a certain wattage, but you can freely draw more through them. The only thing that could be holding back the current reference 1080 is a power limit in the BIOS and whatever nvidia has set as the maximum voltage for the cards.

Anyone expecting those 2.5ghz aftermarket cards... well....

We'll need to see if you can still mod the BIOS of these cards to deliver more voltage than allowed. You can do it on GM200. Otherwise you'll need an EVGA Classified. If the reference cards are doing about 2ghz, I expect even a volt modded and water cooled card to generally hit 2.3. 2.5 is not happening without LN2 suicide runs.

 

[thesmokingman]

Videocardz proving again they are a totally worthless site for information. The pin counts are rated at a certain wattage, but you can freely draw more through them. The only thing that could be holding back the current reference 1080 is a power limit in the BIOS.

Anyone expecting those 2.5ghz aftermarket cards... well....

It still is early days. I'm sure they have sent a carton of binned silicon to EVGA/Kingpin.

 

[railven]

Just be honest and admit it sucks nVidia prices the way it does. Don't justify, don't say well the performance makes it ok, don't compare it to 2015 flagship pricing, just be humble yourselves and admit this sucks.

TIL: my honest opinion isn't my honest opinion.

 

[Sweepr]

People should know they buy a card that is barely if any faster than fury in future dx12 games. Its a mild facelift of the arch and its hows. If it had real new engine with ace like functionality it would cream the fury in dx12. But it doesnt.

Even in AMD's sponsored AotS it's doing very well, much better than Maxwell. There could be room for improvement with new drivers too.

And overall it's 25-30% faster than Fury X in DX12 according to HardwareCanucks.

 

[RussianSensation]

May 11, 2016
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38216847&postcount=703

"I am going to make some reasonable predictions for 1080.

25% faster than a reference 980Ti with ~20-22% overclocking headroom on air (2114mhz / 1733mhz)

For anyone who isn't on 980Ti OC/Titan X OC, this would annihilate every card out there.

1080 stock = 104%
1080 w/ 2.1-2.15Ghz OC = 125% (close to 60% faster than a stock Fury X)

"


TechSpot GTX1070 Review

"AMD is going to have to restructure their pricing aggressively if they plan to sell another Fiji graphics card this year. The GTX 1080 Founders Edition costs just 11% more and is some 30% faster. Not just that, but once overclocked the new GTX 1080 can be up to 60% faster than the Fury X, while AMD's GPU is renowned for its poor overclocking headroom."

Thank you ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much!
http://www.techspot.com/review/1174-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080/page10.html

Crysis 3 shows a 46% increase in performance from a 980Ti to a 1080. Crysis 3 is a primarily GPU limited game. Amazing for one of the most demanding games of that era.

[/IMG]

The Witcher 3

The two things that let this card down are the garbage blower that thermal throttles boost after minutes of gaming and the high price.

And the high $699 price for the FE card. After-market 1070 should be a far better value overall until $599 after-market 1080 cards show up.

 

[Arachnotronic]

It still is early days. I'm sure they have sent a carton of binned silicon to EVGA/Kingpin.

thesmokingman, does NVIDIA typically do such binning for AIB partners? I am asking out of genuine curiosity.

 

[krumme]

Nice high freq btw. I doubt amd can get gf process anywhere near that.

 

[thesmokingman]

thesmokingman, does NVIDIA typically do such binning for AIB partners? I am asking out of genuine curiosity.

Binning happens on an electrical level, not like overclocking like how we think of it. The chips are graded obviously when they are tested/QC. I would assume during the early days, to get the best marketing value out of having someone like Kingpin when he is raping the 3dmark leaderboards to equip him with the best tools.

 

[raghu78]

Perf is pretty good for a new node and architecture. The pricing is not so great. Anyway sites like TPU are officially calling founders edition an early adopter tax and a way of milking the early adopters. Anyway Nvidia keeps the GPU crown safely. But the real question is how good is AMD's polaris 10 and can it force price cuts on Nvidia cards ?

 

[LTC8K6]

Even in AMD's sponsored AotS it's doing very well, much better than Maxwell. There could be room for improvement with new drivers too.

And overall it's 25-30% faster than Fury X in DX12 according to HardwareCanucks.

What happens when we overclock both cards though?

 

[sirmo]

Now that benchmarks are out, my opinion on it is that it's a good card. But waiting for aftermarket cards hopefully at the MSRP (non-Founders) price would be a wise choice for anyone looking to upgrade.

Looks like Pascal is largely a Maxwell die shrink with some nice improvements. Which is not a bad thing because Maxwell was already a pretty good arch. And I think there is only so much you can improve.

But I am really excited to see what AMD does with Polaris and Vega, since I believe AMD has more room for improvement. There is also the whole question of future proofing and AMD's advantage in async compute and freesync.

 

[krumme]

Perf is pretty good for a new node and architecture. The pricing is not so great. Anyway sites like TPU are officially calling founders edition an early adopter tax and a way of milking the early adopters. Anyway Nvidia keeps the GPU crown safely. But the real question is how good is AMD's polaris 10 and can it force price cuts on Nvidia cards ?

Its different segments and markets. Pascal is far bigger, expensive ram, high binning and expensive process. Its not comparable and the results will reflect that. If you want cheaper 1080 wait for Vega but even then i am not so sure much will happen. The new nodes are expensive so its imo not surprising its expensive. Nv drives a business. I dont complain about pricing but could use some newer arch for dx 12 - so i complain about that. Lol.

 

[crisium]

Max OC it appears to only be marginally faster than a 980 Ti at Max OC.

1080 stock only 9% faster than 980 Ti after market. 1080 Max (OC?) is only 15% faster and let's not forget 980 Ti still has room to go even after factory OC:
http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/7/

Max OC 1080 just 12% faster than Max OC 980 Ti. And it costs $50 more. The value just is not there.

Aftermarket models should OC a bit higher, I would imagine, and are hopefully a bit cheaper. Still, aside from some big DX12 gains on Maxwell, this is not the next gen you are looking for. You could have had just a little less performance with the 980 Ti max OC for nearly a year now.

To me this reiterates how much of a beast GM200 really is, getting nearly this same performance on ye old 28nm, more than anything.

 

[thilanliyan]

If this card can mine well I might pick one up. Needs to come close to my 290s in ether mining though.

 

[provost]

Even in AMD's sponsored AotS it's doing very well, much better than Maxwell. There could be room for improvement with new drivers too.

Are you surely are not thinking of AMD cards with the drivers delivering more performance overtime? Lol..That sounds more like AMD's a schtick than Nvidia's MO, as Nvidia tends to put its best foot forward with the launch benchmarks, and then moves on to the next bigger and better thing.... At least that has been my experience anyway....

 

[Arachnotronic]

If this card can mine well I might pick one up. Needs to come close to my 290s in ether mining though.

Aren't AMD cards generally better at mining?

 

[Sweepr]

Max OC it appears to only be marginally faster than a 980 Ti at Max OC.

For Founder's Edition and in an old game, yes. Let's try latest DX11/DX12 titles and custom Geforce GTX 1080 instead and then we can draw proper conclusions.

 

[sirmo]

If this card can mine well I might pick one up. Needs to come close to my 290s in ether mining though.

Polaris should beat it in mining. Especially in hash/watt. We'll see when Polaris 10 comes out, but I am half tempted to Crossfire two 480X. Since I do a lot of OpenCL compute.

 

[Grooveriding]

Max OC it appears to only be marginally faster than a 980 Ti at Max OC.

1080 stock only 9% faster than 980 Ti after market. 1080 Max (OC?) is only 15% faster and let's not forget 980 Ti still has room to go even after factory OC:
http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/7/

Max OC 1080 just 12% faster than Max OC 980 Ti. And it costs $50 more. The value just is not there.

Aftermarket models should OC a bit higher, I would imagine, and are hopefully a bit cheaper. Still, aside from some big DX12 gains on Maxwell, this is not the next gen you are looking for. You could have had just a little less performance with the 980 Ti max OC for nearly a year now.

To me this reiterates how much of a beast GM200 really is, getting nearly this same performance on ye old 28nm, more than anything.

Interesting. Did any sites use the canned benchmark contained in any of the games they ran ? I wouldn't mind seeing how the card compares to a 980ti with a huge overclock to get an idea of what sort of overclock a 1080 would need to give appreciable gains.