UNLV considures arming faculty.

[K1052]

Originally posted by: DVK916
FYI it is well known that guns help motivate crime. People who own a gun are more likely to go beserk and kill someone.

troll.com

 

[JohnAn2112]

Originally posted by: DVK916
FYI it is well known that guns help motivate crime. People who own a gun are more likely to go beserk and kill someone.

:roll:

Where's your proof that backs this ridiculous statement?

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Lived and worked in Vegas for many years as a medic, many of you know this.

It is VERY easy to get a CCW permit, my guess is a lot of them already carry. And it's not like you just get one, you need to be trained first.

"I fear for my life with all these school shootings."
"OK, here's a permit."

A CCW permit is useless for anyone on school grounds. Even with a CCW permit all school grounds are "gun free zones" and it is illegal to carry there.

It depends on the state. Here in Oregon, I can carry on any public school campus (elementary through university) and on private school campuses as long as they don't tell me not to.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: JohnAn2112

Originally posted by: DVK916
FYI it is well known that guns help motivate crime. People who own a gun are more likely to go beserk and kill someone.

:roll:

Where's your proof that backs this ridiculous statement?

don't feed the troll folks

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: DVK916
FYI it is well known that guns help motivate crime. People who own a gun are more likely to go beserk and kill someone.

Funny how you provide no statistics to back up this amazing piece of bullsh!t.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Lived and worked in Vegas for many years as a medic, many of you know this.

It is VERY easy to get a CCW permit, my guess is a lot of them already carry. And it's not like you just get one, you need to be trained first.

"I fear for my life with all these school shootings."
"OK, here's a permit."

A CCW permit is useless for anyone on school grounds. Even with a CCW permit all school grounds are "gun free zones" and it is illegal to carry there.

Only high schools and earlier are included in that. Colleges are exempt. All laws that prohibit carrying on college campuses are on a case by case basis and established by the college.

Please point out a public/state university that allows CCW on campus by either faculty or students.

Oregon State University, University of Oregon, Portland State University, every other public university in Oregon.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DVK916
FYI it is well known that trolls help motivate crime. People exposed to troll posts are more likely to go beserk and kill someone.

Fixed it for ya... troll.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Lived and worked in Vegas for many years as a medic, many of you know this.

It is VERY easy to get a CCW permit, my guess is a lot of them already carry. And it's not like you just get one, you need to be trained first.

"I fear for my life with all these school shootings."
"OK, here's a permit."

A CCW permit is useless for anyone on school grounds. Even with a CCW permit all school grounds are "gun free zones" and it is illegal to carry there.

It depends on the state. Here in Oregon, I can carry on any public school campus (elementary through university) and on private school campuses as long as they don't tell me not to.

Thanks for the info, guys. I had no idea, that's why I asked instead of making a statement. Everywhere I have lived schools were always gun free zones.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: nweaver

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Lived and worked in Vegas for many years as a medic, many of you know this.

It is VERY easy to get a CCW permit, my guess is a lot of them already carry. And it's not like you just get one, you need to be trained first.

"I fear for my life with all these school shootings."
"OK, here's a permit."

A CCW permit is useless for anyone on school grounds. Even with a CCW permit all school grounds are "gun free zones" and it is illegal to carry there.

Only high schools and earlier are included in that. Colleges are exempt. All laws that prohibit carrying on college campuses are on a case by case basis and established by the college.

Please point out a public/state university that allows CCW on campus by either faculty or students.

every state university in Utah...they can ASK you not to carry, but they cannot force you not to carry....

yeah, we have some of the most liberal gun laws...it goes nicely with our low rate of violent crime

Now wait, if a Utah university can ask you not to carry, can they remove you from the grounds if you break that rule?

Private universities can do whatever they please since they are on private property. If state law allows CHL holders to carry on campuses, public universities can't do a damned thing and you would be able to sue them for violating your rights if they did.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: crt1530

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: 911paramedic
Lived and worked in Vegas for many years as a medic, many of you know this.

It is VERY easy to get a CCW permit, my guess is a lot of them already carry. And it's not like you just get one, you need to be trained first.

"I fear for my life with all these school shootings."
"OK, here's a permit."

A CCW permit is useless for anyone on school grounds. Even with a CCW permit all school grounds are "gun free zones" and it is illegal to carry there.

It depends on the state. Here in Oregon, I can carry on any public school campus (elementary through university) and on private school campuses as long as they don't tell me not to.

Thanks for the info, guys. I had no idea, that's why I asked instead of making a statement. Everywhere I have lived schools were always gun free zones.

My University prohibits carrying on Campus, but I'm almost positive there is not State Law against it.

 

[RallyMaster]

1. you suck at spelling: it's "considers"
2. you suck at grammar: it's "I can see the headlines now, 'Lecturer goes ON killing spree'"
3. why do you not feel guilty for creating all these worthless threads?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

Somalia

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

Trying being a little less absolute next time, pal.

"Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed."

Is easily contradicted and makes your whole argument week. If you said "Lots of deaths in a shooting sprees are rare if the intended victims are armed." Because, cmon, there's plenty of armed people that get shot to death everyday -- and plenty of spree-type killings perpetrated by Sunni or Shia militias in Iraq -- and most people there are armed.

Don't make absolute statements if they cannot possibly be proven.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

Somalia

Wow. From bad to worse.

Neither example is a case of a lone gunman on a shooting soree, but armed terrorists/warlord militia fighting battles.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

Los Angeles County.*





























*Which has one of the most restrictive CHL issue policies of any may-issue jurisdiction.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

Trying being a little less absolute next time, pal.

"Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed."

Is easily contradicted and makes your whole argument week. If you said "Lots of deaths in a shooting sprees are rare if the intended victims are armed." Because, cmon, there's plenty of armed people that get shot to death everyday -- and plenty of spree-type killings perpetrated by Sunni or Shia militias in Iraq -- and most people there are armed.

Don't make absolute statements if they cannot possibly be proven.

There is a BIG difference between organized terrorists/armies/militia fighting battles and lone crazed gunmen in the US.

Just stop.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Mill
Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Fine line that it might be, there is a difference between war and crime. One could say that war is what occurs in the absence of law, while crime requires that law exist in order for it to exist.

Regardless, the problem with the gun argument, from both sides, it that both sides are WRONG. The bickering over guns is really just a way of dehumanizing violence and crime. A way of blaming the tool instead of the human being who actually committed the horrible act. It's a denial of something so terrible that we don't want to even look at it.
I'm sorry to have to say this, but it's us, not the tool, that is to blame.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

Trying being a little less absolute next time, pal.

"Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed."

Is easily contradicted and makes your whole argument week. If you said "Lots of deaths in a shooting sprees are rare if the intended victims are armed." Because, cmon, there's plenty of armed people that get shot to death everyday -- and plenty of spree-type killings perpetrated by Sunni or Shia militias in Iraq -- and most people there are armed.

Don't make absolute statements if they cannot possibly be proven.

There is a BIG difference between organized terrorists/armies/militia fighting battles and lone crazed gunmen in the US.

Just stop.

Of course there is. But you made an absolute statement THAT WOULD include those battles. You didn't say "lone crazed gumen" are typically ineffective against those with a CCW.

Dude, I have a CCW. I'm as pro-gun as they get. But, if you are going to make a weak argument I'm going to go after it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

Trying being a little less absolute next time, pal.

"Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed."

Is easily contradicted and makes your whole argument week. If you said "Lots of deaths in a shooting sprees are rare if the intended victims are armed." Because, cmon, there's plenty of armed people that get shot to death everyday -- and plenty of spree-type killings perpetrated by Sunni or Shia militias in Iraq -- and most people there are armed.

Don't make absolute statements if they cannot possibly be proven.

There is a BIG difference between organized terrorists/armies/militia fighting battles and lone crazed gunmen in the US.

Just stop.

Of course there is. But you made an absolute statement THAT WOULD include those battles. You didn't say "lone crazed gumen" are typically ineffective against those with a CCW.

Dude, I have a CCW. I'm as pro-gun as they get. But, if you are going to make a weak argument I'm going to go after it.

You knew what I was implying. You're just being a prick.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Mill
Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Fine line that it might be, there is a difference between war and crime. One could say that war is what occurs in the absence of law, while crime requires that law exist in order for it to exist.

Regardless, the problem with the gun argument, from both sides, it that both sides are WRONG. The bickering over guns is really just a way of dehumanizing violence and crime. A way of blaming the tool instead of the human being who actually committed the horrible act. It's a denial of something so terrible that we don't want to even look at it.
I'm sorry to have to say this, but it's us, not the tool, that is to blame.

Just a result of us having moved to a more civilized society. I've little doubt that few tears were expressed by the Romans over tragic spearing deaths. Some people nowadays -- especially those in suburbia -- cannot see a rational reason for guns to exist. They don't live in a warzone or have a good idea of history.

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Mill
Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Fine line that it might be, there is a difference between war and crime. One could say that war is what occurs in the absence of law, while crime requires that law exist in order for it to exist.

Regardless, the problem with the gun argument, from both sides, it that both sides are WRONG. The bickering over guns is really just a way of dehumanizing violence and crime. A way of blaming the tool instead of the human being who actually committed the horrible act. It's a denial of something so terrible that we don't want to even look at it.
I'm sorry to have to say this, but it's us, not the tool, that is to blame.

There ARE evil people among us who wish to do us harm. I choose to arm and defend myself to the best of my abilities as is my right under the constitution.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Amused
I don't know why I am responding to a thread created by you but...

One thing any THINKING person will realize is one only sees mass shootings and shooting sprees in places where the general public is UNARMED and/or guns are banned.

You NEVER see these where people are armed. When was the last time you heard of a successful shooting spree at a gun show? A gun range? A police station?

Nope, only in places and localities where the victims are sure to be unarmed.

Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed. Shooting sprees are a prime example of why CCW is a GOOD idea.

Shooting sprees happen all the time in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seems like everyone is armed there.

Um... OK :roll:

Wanna try for a more realistic example?

Trying being a little less absolute next time, pal.

"Shooting sprees are impossible if the intended victims are armed."

Is easily contradicted and makes your whole argument week. If you said "Lots of deaths in a shooting sprees are rare if the intended victims are armed." Because, cmon, there's plenty of armed people that get shot to death everyday -- and plenty of spree-type killings perpetrated by Sunni or Shia militias in Iraq -- and most people there are armed.

Don't make absolute statements if they cannot possibly be proven.

There is a BIG difference between organized terrorists/armies/militia fighting battles and lone crazed gunmen in the US.

Just stop.

Of course there is. But you made an absolute statement THAT WOULD include those battles. You didn't say "lone crazed gumen" are typically ineffective against those with a CCW.

Dude, I have a CCW. I'm as pro-gun as they get. But, if you are going to make a weak argument I'm going to go after it.

You knew what I was implying. You're just being a prick.

No, I'm not. You just hate to ever admit that you used poor logic or a poor word choice. Because you are ALWAYS right, Amused. No one is ever as smart as you or can criticize anything you do. For once, take some constructive criticism.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: DVK916
Also VTech should have made people realize having guns on campus is a dangerous thing.

Shocked they would propose this after VTech.

havent you guys learned to not feed the trolls on here? :roll: