Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

[Londo_Jowo]

The laws of common sense, decency, and intelligence. None of which you will ever understand.

Asking someone "Why are you following me?" is a confrontation? Post the exact quote where she says Martin confronted Zimmerman. I thought DeeDee was a liar, by the way, according to the White Right. Do you lie about everything with such glib ease in your normal life? That's called being a sociopath. And a general piece of human shit.

Proof of attempt of detention is the fight, Zimmerman's broken nose, and Martin's dead body. A retarded chimpanzee could figure this out.

Anything else you want to pull out of your ass to defend your hero?

What you're saying is GZ violated no laws according to Florida statutes.

GZ injuries are more in line with someone who was assaulted and TM's wounds are in line with someone who wasn't assaulted. No signs of detention found.

 

[JKing106]

So when was the last time you broke your nose and had two black eyes?

When was yours? You seem to be such a fucking expert on the matter.

 

[emperus]

Where did you get the 45ft distance? What statement is it stated? Or did you count the cement sections of the sidewalk?

There has been a crime scene map in evidence with numbers. You might have to do some math though. Also you can use google maps to calculate the distance as a couple of sites have done.

 

[soundforbjt]

At least I'm a master.

Yep, a master-debater.

 

[nobodyknows]

Yep, a master-debater.

And your not?? LOL@U

So when was the last time you broke your nose and got two black eyes? Maybe your cat licked you too hard?? Or perhaps your hand slipped off?? ROFL

 

[emperus]

So EMP gives the stink eye and is surprised somebody called his bluff?

Don't do that emp, might get you dead someday.

Your just full of contradictions huh? So, I look at someone and might 'get dead"? So, if I follow and then chase someone, what do u think should happen?

 

[emperus]

No problem

Two witnesses place TM on top of GZ prior to the shot being fired.

Ballistics show the shot was a contact shot (ie touching the outer garment when fired) which is more in line with a self defense shot.

GZ has a close fracture of his nose and lacerations on his head while TM has a small wound on his knuckle, tends to show that TM assaulted GZ.

Even though Serino tried he could never get GZ to break, Serino even said that he was pressured to charge GZ even though there was no evidence to establish probable cause.

GZ passes 2 voice stress tests (will have to pass a Frye test before they can be introduced as evidence)

More cut and paste? Try to focus on the discussion at hand.

 

[JKing106]

What you're saying is GZ violated no laws according to Florida statutes.

GZ injuries are more in line with someone who was assaulted and TM's wounds are in line with someone who wasn't assaulted. No signs of detention found.

What you're saying is you don't give fuck that a kid was killed by a pussy who is a known liar, bully, woman beater, and general piece of human shit because no "law," in your mind, was broken. I understand why you sympathize with Zimmerman. You're both sociopaths. You're in good company in this thread.

so·ci·o·path
noun /ˈsōsēōˌpaTH/ 
sociopaths, plural

A person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience

 

[soundforbjt]

And your not?? LOL@U

So when was the last time you broke your nose and got two black eyes? Maybe your cat licked you too hard?? Or perhaps your hand slipped off?? ROFL

It's been about 15 years. And my friend got his nose broken a couple of months ago by his five yr old daughter...I didn't know she was a MMA expert at five, LOL!!

 

[nobodyknows]

More cut and paste? Try to focus on the discussion at hand.

Facts are a bitch, huh!!

 

[Oyeve]

When you are hit out of nowhere with such brutal force that your nose is broken you are dazed, dizzy and somewhat out of it. That's why thugs use this move of one huge out of nowhere blow to "knock out" or daze their victim.

Off to worldstarhiphop with you.

I have to chime in as I have had my nose broke on a few occasions and from the pics of GZs broken nose if was most definately NOT brutal force. Ive had worse looking shaving incidents.

 

[emperus]

GZ isn't the most well spoken person or the best at conveying what he means.

I've always had a knack for discerning what such people actually mean, and have helped clear up more misunderstandings between two parties than I can possibly begin to count...

I can't be sure but my feeling is that GZ meant:

Not that he literally, truly FORGOT he had a gun in the way emperus may be trying to make it sound, trying to make it sound absurd and unbelievable that is... I think he just meant that he was so accustomed to having the gun that it wasn't directly on the forefront of his mind as he got out of the car, and during perhaps some of the fight when he was dizzy and distracted by getting viciously beaten.

I also think when he said "skip" he didn't mean it like you're envisioning... some little girl spreading daisies from a basket skipping along... but rather, again... GZ expressing himself very poorly, I think I can envision exactly what he meant. Have you ever seen someone sort of do a hybrid between a run and a walk? Not talking about a jog, but where they will run a few paces, then walk a few, etc.

Think about all the variations you've seen of that sort of motion, and I think you'll be close to what GZ meant.

I still think the distance south of the "T" that they ended up at is easily accounted for by GZ instinctively trying to get away, but not seeing well or being very clear because of the daze he was in from the punch... and covering some distance that way. I can easily see Trayvon pulling at him, trying to stop him and force him to the ground, as he stupidly stumbles along, and that sort of motion could very quickly account for the kind of distance we see.

I will admit I don't have any idea how Trayvon's phone got south of Trayvon... I could suggest a few notions but I'll just admit that sort of puzzles me.

as for this claim emperus is making about humans and survival instincts... there are exceptions to everything, and being drugged up on purple drizzank boyeeeeeeeeeeee will absolutely taint what might be normal human actions. Even within normal human actions you will see people who are hotheads, looking for an excuse to do violence... this is particularly common among young males, even moreso among young delinquent males on their third suspension... even moreso among young, delinquent, drug abusing, suspicious jewelry bagging males who like to pose thug style on their facebook, etc. COMPLETELY believable.

So you can talk about most people and most people not confronting, etc... but there are people that do shit like that. There absolutely are. We all know it, and I think Trayvon sized up GZ, saw he was a small doughy guy, a "cracka ass cracka bitch" etc... and I think he also looked like a pretty juicy target once he was out of his car, and off of his phone.

practice your MMA skillz, impress Deedee, have a good story for twitter later about beating some fool's ass... vent your frustrations about being on the verge of being KICKED OUT (not just suspended) at school, frustrations for getting "roped" for using weed... frustrations for 7-11 clerk not selling you a blunt, etc etc etc

100%, completely believable.

EDIT: I've also heard that model of pistol doesn't have a traditional safety and just requires a lot of squeeze or something, right?

I see you're still off your meds. You really have a split personallity.

 

[nobodyknows]

It's been about 15 years. And my friend got his nose broken a couple of months ago by his five yr old daughter...I didn't know she was a MMA expert at five, LOL!!

So your telling me you had your nose broke and had two blacks eyes 15 years ago. How?

 

[dali71]

Stop being a pussy and call me a n****r lover. Oh, you won't, because you're a giant pussy. This is a prime example of the new breed of conservatives. They talk a big, tough game, want to carry concealed weapons, call anyone who points out their rabid racism racists against the oppressed white man, if the flag had a dick they'd suck it, etc.

What it all comes down to is this: they're frightened, authoritarian, racist, walking vaginas. Huge seeping pussies. Scared beta males who will bend over in 2 seconds for anyone with a badge or uniform.

You're such a fucking douchebag, I'll bet you even look like one:

Yep, nailed it...


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[Mr.Mischief]

Kel Tec 9mm pistols don't have safeties. They're double action only, which is supposed to be the "safety." Just rack a round into the chamber, and pull the trigger.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/

Exactly, they could have been fighting over the gun, even pulling the trigger, but if there wasn't a round in the chamber, it wouldn't fire.

You should research before posting as the Kel Tec 9 has a double action firing mechanism.

I understand that. I should have been more specific. It's possible there wasn't a round chambered, which means it wouldn't have gone off by someone pulling the trigger. A round would have to be chambered.

 

[nobodyknows]

I have to chime in as I have had my nose broke on a few occasions and from the pics of GZs broken nose if was most definately NOT brutal force. Ive had worse looking shaving incidents.

Another expert witness.

This all so relative because everybody and situation is different. As lomg as were telling antdotes, I've seen several people get knocked the fuck out and they never had a bruise, black eye, or any other scratch/injury on them.

 

[soundforbjt]

So your telling me you had your nose broke and had two blacks eyes 15 years ago. How?

Don't see how it matters to the discussion, but...it was an accident involving the baggage door on a tour bus. I was bending down to help as my co-worker yanked the stuck door and it came free at exactly the wrong time.

 

[nobodyknows]

I understand that. I should have been more specific. It's possible there wasn't a round chambered, which means it wouldn't have gone off by someone pulling the trigger. A round would have to be chambered.

The main advantage of a double action auto is that you can safely carry it with a round chambered.

 

[Oyeve]

Another expert witness.

This all so relative because everybody and situation is different. As lomg as were telling antdotes, I've seen several people get knocked the fuck out and they never had a bruise, black eye, or any other scratch/injury on them.

I am not a witness to anything so keep you childish shit to yourself. I merely stated that GZs broken nose was not from "brutal" anything. I really dont give a shit about this case or the idiots going on and on about it.

 

[Mr.Mischief]

The main advantage of a double action auto is that you can safely carry it with a round chambered.

Yeah, because it has a hammer block safety. I was responding to an entirely different argument.

 

[nobodyknows]

Don't see how it matters to the discussion, but...it was an accident involving the baggage door on a tour bus. I was bending down to help as my co-worker yanked the stuck door and it came free at exactly the wrong time.

Workman's comp!!

Seriously, as I stated already, it's all relative and you have no idea if GZ was hit hard enough to knock him down or not. Just because you didn't get knocked out doesn't mean GZ didn't get knocked off his feet. It seems to me to be very plausible that the first hit was thrown by the aggressor and since TM didn't have any bruises (except for on a hand) that he was most likely the aggressor here.

 

[emperus]

Workman's comp!!

Seriously, as I stated already, it's all relative and you have no idea if GZ was hit hard enough to knock him down or not. Just because you didn't get knocked out doesn't mean GZ didn't get knocked off his feet. It seems to me to be very plausible that the first hit was thrown by the aggressor and since TM didn't have any bruises (except for on a hand) that he was most likely the aggressor here.

Again, GZ got hit with the first punch and fell forward 45 feet?

 

[nobodyknows]

I am not a witness to anything so keep you childish shit to yourself. I merely stated that GZs broken nose was not from "brutal" anything. I really dont give a shit about this case or the idiots going on and on about it.

LOL your incident has nothing to do with this. You weren't the one being hit, hell, your own admission you weren't even there. How the hell can you pretend to speak to the forc of the blow.

If you want to spout off, prepare to defend yourself and quit acting like a little child because someone dared to argue with you.

 

[soundforbjt]

Workman's comp!!

Seriously, as I stated already, it's all relative and you have no idea if GZ was hit hard enough to knock him down or not. Just because you didn't get knocked out doesn't mean GZ didn't get knocked off his feet. It seems to me to be very plausible that the first hit was thrown by the aggressor and since TM didn't have any bruises (except for on a hand) that he was most likely the aggressor here.

Aggressor or defending himself from GZ? That we will probably never know for sure.

 

[nobodyknows]

Again, GZ got hit with the first punch and fell forward 45 feet?

Quit acting obtuse.