Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

[spidey07]

Awesome is not a word that I would use to describe what happened....

I would. Needs to happen more.

Maybe then thugs will learn you can get dead by brutally and viciously attacking another who was doing nothing wrong.

 

[airdata]

Absolutely everyone knows that Martin attacked Zimmerman - it's what the evidence shows. It is possible that Zimmerman threw a punch that missed, or otherwise started the fight that you guys are so certain happened, but there is zero evidence of that happening. You simply cannot beat the crap out of someone and call it a fight without some evidence that it was indeed a fight.

One suspects that if the cops bring in a young black man with a broken nose and multiple scalp contusions and lacerations, you would not be arguing that there was a fight or even more amusingly, a scuffle.

You clearly didn't read my previous post.

There's not evidence that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman. There was clearly a fight in which Trayvon had the better end. But to say he attacked Zimmerman is to say with certainty that's how it went down.

Since none of us know for certain how the fight started, it's literally a fallacy to say Trayvon attacked Zimmerman since you dont know that happened.

So, here you are responding to my post pretending you're somehow correcting me when in fact you're simply perpetuating speculation and things you know not to be true which we otherwise refer to as lying. That's what you're doing.

You know there's no evidence Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, yet you post to the contrary... so you're simply lying.

That's what you're doing. You're lying.

 

[airdata]

I would. Needs to happen more.

Maybe then thugs will learn you can get dead by brutally and viciously attacking another who was doing nothing wrong.

You too spidey. People point out you're incorrect and you keep posting the same tired posts...

You're a fucking liar.

 

[OCNewbie]

It's more like 100 pounds in 6 months. His attorneys tried to use it as an excuse to delay the trial.

They did? Can you provide a source that quotes his attorneys as saying this?

 

[spidey07]

You too spidey. People point out you're incorrect and you keep posting the same tired posts...

You're a fucking liar.

I post nothing but facts, backed by evidence and the brilliant WHITE truth.

 

[spidey07]

You clearly didn't read my previous post.

There's not evidence that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman. There was clearly a fight in which Trayvon had the better end. But to say he attacked Zimmerman is to say with certainty that's how it went down.

Since none of us know for certain how the fight started, it's literally a fallacy to say Trayvon attacked Zimmerman since you dont know that happened.

So, here you are responding to my post pretending you're somehow correcting me when in fact you're simply perpetuating speculation and things you know not to be true which we otherwise refer to as lying. That's what you're doing.

You know there's no evidence Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, yet you post to the contrary... so you're simply lying.

That's what you're doing. You're lying.

There is EYE WITNESS tesimony that trayvon brutally and viciously attacked zimmerman.

There is ZERO evidence to refute this.

That makes it fact.

 

[Darkman]

Robert Zimmerman Jr. on the Larry Elder show April 30 2013

Audio ---- Robert and Larry are talking Today's GZ developments etc

Listen here: https://soundcloud.com/#coreshift/robert-zimmerman-on-the-larry

 

[spidey07]

Robert Zimmerman Jr. on the Larry Elder show April 30 2013

Audio ---- Robert and Larry are talking Today's GZ developments etc

Listen here: https://soundcloud.com/#coreshift/robert-zimmerman-on-the-larry

Larry Elder is the MAN.

 

[soundforbjt]

lol, seriously?

I actually doubt that adding 20 lbs to the weight difference is going to go very far in helping him.

Who would believe that fat guy could "catch" a young slim teen? They'll know he weighed less when it happened, but the visual of a "fat, obese" GZ could "out-weigh" (bad pun) the true facts.

 

[airdata]

There is EYE WITNESS tesimony that trayvon brutally and viciously attacked zimmerman.

There is ZERO evidence to refute this.

That makes it fact.

Again, since your inbred brain apparently can't read properly.

Apart from the fact we all know it wasn't a brutal assault or he'd have concussion and lasting injuries, saying that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman is assumed to mean that nothing was happening and then BOOM he attacked zimmerman.
That's what you keep saying.

And we have no proof that happened.


We do however have proof that Zimmerman ignored the police and followed and searched for Trayvon when he should have been either waiting in his car or in the place the police arranged for him to meet w\ the dispatched officers.

So we know for a fact that Zimmerman ignored all reason and went looking for Trayvon which was the job of the police, and not his. And then he somehow got into a fight w\ Trayvon.

Trayvon could have attacked him.... However, we don't FUCKING know... which is the point I'm trying to make to you, you pathetic, racist, piece of shit.

Yet despite the fact that none of us know if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman you spend at least half of your posts in this thread perpetuating a blatant lie.

 

[OCNewbie]

We do however have proof that Zimmerman ignored the police and followed and searched for Trayvon . . .

What proof would that be? GPS data from GZ's phone or something?

. . . when he should have been either waiting in his car or in the place the police arranged for him to meet w\ the dispatched officers.

What place did the police arrange for him to meet with the dispatched officer? Oh right, they didn't decide on a place. The dispatcher said that he'd have the officer call GZ upon arrival... did that call ever come? In fact, wasn't GZ on the way to his car, where you say he should have been waiting, when he claims he was attacked? Isn't there witness evidence (based on where the sounds came from) and physical evidence (GZ's keys and flashlight) that support that the "fight" or assault started at the T? Isn't that T right in line with a path from RVC, where GZ claimed he was, to his truck? So how did GZ go searching for TM? Where is that proof?

 

[lotus503]

What proof would that be? GPS data from GZ's phone or something?



What place did the police arrange for him to meet with the dispatched officer? Oh right, they didn't decide on a place. The dispatcher said that he'd have the officer call GZ upon arrival... did that call ever come? In fact, wasn't GZ on the way to his car, where you say he should have been waiting, when he claims he was attacked? Isn't there witness evidence (based on where the sounds came from) and physical evidence (GZ's keys and flashlight) that support that the "fight" or assault started at the T? Isn't that T right in line with a path from RVC, where GZ claimed he was, to his truck? So how did GZ go searching for TM? Where is that proof?

What was Zimmerman doing when he exited the vehicle after Martin ran?

If he wasn't following him or looking for him then why get out of the car?

 

[spidey07]

What was Zimmerman doing when he exited the vehicle after Martin ran?

If he wasn't following him or looking for him then why get out of the car?

To tell police where the thug was headed.

I know. In your mind the cracker should have cowered in his car when the black man walks.

You fucking racist.

 

[OCNewbie]

What was Zimmerman doing when he exited the vehicle after Martin ran?

If he wasn't following him or looking for him then why get out of the car?

Two things... one, seeing where he went, two, looking for a street sign (apparently), and going on to RVC to get a house number (so he would have the requisite house number PLUS street name).

He didn't continue to "search" for him after the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that". Unless "searching" is walking up and down the sidewalk where TM obviously was not located at that time.

 

[umbrella39]

Nice to see the revisionist history lessons still being taught almost 50K posts later! Hilarious.... if it wasn't so tragic.

 

[echo4747]

Maybe we will find out more about this jewelry ( found in TM backpack) and its value after all:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...-stolen-jewelry-and-burglary-tool/#more-62463

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Maybe we will find out more about this jewelry ( found in TM backpack) and its value after all:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com...-stolen-jewelry-and-burglary-tool/#more-62463

I was getting ready to post the same article. Surprising how much was suppressed by the M-DSPD Chief Hurley to improve his records.

I found the following quite interesting:

As mentioned, if you contact the victim of Miami-Dade burglary #PD111021-422483, and review with them the property confiscated by M-DSPD SRO Dunn listed under #2011-11477, we believe you will be able to return at least a portion of the stolen merchandise.
Perhaps some of the items returned may have sentimental, as well as obvious financial, value.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Again, since your inbred brain apparently can't read properly.

Apart from the fact we all know it wasn't a brutal assault or he'd have concussion and lasting injuries, saying that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman is assumed to mean that nothing was happening and then BOOM he attacked zimmerman.
That's what you keep saying.

And we have no proof that happened.

You also don't have any proof that it didn't happen that way either. The fact of the matter is GZ does have injuries consistent with an assault.


We do however have proof that Zimmerman ignored the police and followed and searched for Trayvon when he should have been either waiting in his car or in the place the police arranged for him to meet w\ the dispatched officers.

Actually you and the prosecution who by the way has already testified they can prove that GZ continued to follow TM. The dispatcher and GZ never agreed on a location to meet, GZ requested that the police contact him when they arrive. However, feel free to perpetuate this lie if it makes you feel better.

So we know for a fact that Zimmerman ignored all reason and went looking for Trayvon which was the job of the police, and not his. And then he somehow got into a fight w\ Trayvon.

No evidence to prove that GZ didn't do anything more than try to see where TM ran.


Trayvon could have attacked him.... However, we don't FUCKING know... which is the point I'm trying to make to you, you pathetic, racist, piece of shit.

If TM didn't attack GZ, then who did it??? Aliens??? Tisk, tisk, tisk no argument, whip out the race card as usual. I would venture to say you're as much as racist as spidey if not more.

Yet despite the fact that none of us know if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman you spend at least half of your posts in this thread perpetuating a blatant lie.

The fact of the matter TM was seen on top of GZ just before the shot was fired, by the law this is at the very least assault and battery. Based on the wounds received by GZ could make this a forcible felony. How does the law go again???

[SIZE=-1]776.012Use of force in defense of person.—
A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:
(1)He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or
(2)Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013
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I thought you were done with this thread

 

[Druidx]

I thought you were done with this thread

That was just one of his countless lies in this thread.

 

[airdata]

Two things... one, seeing where he went, two, looking for a street sign (apparently), and going on to RVC to get a house number (so he would have the requisite house number PLUS street name).

He didn't continue to "search" for him after the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that". Unless "searching" is walking up and down the sidewalk where TM obviously was not located at that time.

A) The looking for a street sign has been proven to be incorrect many times before. He's on audio recording saying he's following Trayvon, and is told by an agent of the police department that they don't need him to do that.

Of course, at this time the dispatcher still had a sliver of hope that they were talking to a rational citizen and not an irrational vigilate type who couldn't simply wait for police to arrive because after all, those assholes always get away.

B) As a matter of fact, 'walking up and down the sidewalk where Trayvon had run would qualify as searching, following, etc. Especially given the fact that Zimmerman had agreed to meet w\ police across the street, but immediately changed his mind and said to have them call him as he didn't know where he was going to be.

This shows that he wasn't going back to his car, and that he was not willing to simply wait for police to arrive. And given the context of the situation there's absolutely nothing else Zimmerman would be doing out there.

My dear friend Eagle Keeper has corroborated all of this in the past.

You guys really need to work on your critical thinking skills.

 

[airdata]

To tell police where the thug was headed.

I know. In your mind the cracker should have cowered in his car when the black man walks.

You fucking racist.

Really? And 5 seconds later he was told they didn't need him to do anything... so at that point he should have gotten back in his car.

Case closed. GZ back in car, nothing happens, nobody dies.

 

[airdata]

What proof would that be? GPS data from GZ's phone or something?



What place did the police arrange for him to meet with the dispatched officer? Oh right, they didn't decide on a place. The dispatcher said that he'd have the officer call GZ upon arrival... did that call ever come? In fact, wasn't GZ on the way to his car, where you say he should have been waiting, when he claims he was attacked? Isn't there witness evidence (based on where the sounds came from) and physical evidence (GZ's keys and flashlight) that support that the "fight" or assault started at the T? Isn't that T right in line with a path from RVC, where GZ claimed he was, to his truck? So how did GZ go searching for TM? Where is that proof?

Go listen to the audio recording.

The dispatcher arranges for GZ to meet police at the mail boxes which I believe is clear across the street from the T.

GZ initially agrees and then a few seconds later says nevermind, have them call me because he doesn't have any intention of waiting for police, or waiting in his car.

And if he's not doing either of those 2 things, he's searching for and or following Trayvon.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Yet the prosecution has already testified under oath, they can't prove GZ continued to follow TM after the dispatcher said "We don't need you to do that".

This dispatcher is not an officer of the law so any requests or recommendations are not to be considered a lawful order or legally binding for that matter.

 

[spidey07]

Really? And 5 seconds later he was told they didn't need him to do anything... so at that point he should have gotten back in his car.

Case closed. GZ back in car, nothing happens, nobody dies.

He didn't make it back to his car.

He was brutally and viciously attacked and beaten repeatedly about the face, head and skull by martin for disprespetin'. Which as pointed out is by very definition a forcible felony.

 

[OCNewbie]

GZ initially agrees and then a few seconds later says nevermind, have them call me because he doesn't have any intention of waiting for police, or waiting in his car.

And when GZ asks the dispatcher if he can have the officer call him, how does the dispatcher respond?

And if he's not doing either of those 2 things, he's searching for and or following Trayvon.

So if TM didn't go home, he's waiting around for the perfect opportunity to come confront GZ? Same logic, right?