Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

[lotus503]

Her statements are only "extremely questionable" if you have some sort of bias that makes you want her statements to be untrue.

Other than that, there's no reason to question her statements any more than the other witnesses, who by the way, at least one has materially changed his story already.

And a lot less reason to question than Zimmerman's obviously self-serving statements.

Bingo, I don't question any of their statements as I don't see anyone not directly involved as having anything to gain by lying.

On in bigot land do you automatically question statements given, that may hurt your viewpoint on the case.

Not to mention all of the black culture ad lib folks like geo like to attach to their fantasy.

 

[spidey07]

Link it

Don't need to, you can google. It's common knowledge for anybody who has paid attention to the facts and evidence of this instead of the racists ignoring facts.

 

[lotus503]

Don't need to, you can google. It's common knowledge for anybody who has paid attention to the facts and evidence of this instead of the racists ignoring facts.

No I don't agree with your misrepresentation of the facts, as far as I know she had no problem speaking to authorities, it was the SPD she didn't want to speak with during the media storm about their handling of the case.

She has given more than one statement just not to SPD. Who by the way didn't know she existed because they didn't check martins phone, otherwise it wouldn't have been the martins looking at their sons calls records that uncovered her conversation.

 

[spidey07]

Exactly. She refused to talk to police.

 

[cybrsage]

Any new happenings in the case, or are we all still just saying everyone who disagrees with our view is an idiot?

 

[Geosurface]

Your looking more and more like spidey the bigot with each post.

So be it. It's the truth, and that is all that matters.

Ask any honest person within the black community whether there is an extremely pervasive attitude of siding with other blacks, not snitchin', not cooperating in any way with the police. There is also a generally very low level of morals throughout a very high percentage of the black community (hence the amazing levels of crime) and the valuation of justice and truth just are not analogous to the levels you find in other communities.

There are of course blacks who this doesn't apply to, and what more can be said? To those it doesn't apply, it doesn't apply. Good for them, wish they were more common.

This attitude I'm talking about also includes the feeling that victimization of whites, or any non-blacks is somewhere between very permissible, to even desirable. Even among many who may not exactly approve of such actions, there will still be a preference for shielding the perpetrators from justice over helping the police. "My race, right or wrong" is the attitude.

These may be unfortunate realities, and realities you would prefer nobody spoke about. However, they are realities nonetheless. You would also quietly acknowledge the truth in them if I were a black person relaying them. You know that is the case.

If Trayvon was a clean cut, studious and squeaky clean lad and his girlfriend a well-spoken, intelligent young black woman straight out of Cosby general casting, or if his father didn't have a Crips gang tattoo removed from his neck and replaced with praying hands between the first press conferences about this he attended, and the slightly later ones... I would not be so quick to suspect endemic deception and obfuscation of the truth within camp Skittles.

Unfortunately, this is not the case. Trayvon's social media, his entire family's way of speaking, his father's serial adultery and "baby mamma" lifestyle, and Deedee's manifest stupidity in her interview, all point very strongly at a low moral character and readiness to lie among the entire group of them. If I saw meth-head looking white trash in the same situation, I would be suspecting them of lying and conniving too. If I saw a picture perfect black family, I wouldn't be taking that view.

Oh and as for your skepticism about Deedee and who she'd interview with... I did some searching, it's hard to find the exact articles now but a couple things are clear:

1.) She said she would only interview with the FBI, and only talk to any sort of law enforcement after extensive Crumpification.

2.) If she'd heard what she said she heard, she would've ended up on the radar of SPD and the Martin family far earlier into this. The fact that she did not contact any police department, not even Miami (who could've transferred her or given her a direct number) proves to any reasonable mind, she did not hear what she said she did, or she knew Trayvon was in a legally precarious situation, or both.

I am done putting political correctness ahead of the truth in my list of priorities, you should try making the same adjustment. It's really quite liberating.

I HIGHLY recommend time marker 5:50 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJH0LzPe4EA (the whole thing is worth a listen though)

 

[TerryMathews]

Exactly. She refused to talk to police.

Ding. Spidey wins. Damn lotus, that must hurt.

 

[airdata]

Your looking more and more like spidey the bigot with each post.

Right? LOL

Geosurface is even worse than spidey because he puts up a front like he's this reasonable, respectable guy sometimes... but posts like that one he just lets his true colors shine through.

Only thing worse than spidey is a spidey that pretends he's not spidey.

 

[airdata]

It's funny how Dee Dee is a great witness when they think her testimony benefits Zimmerman. But then when it looks like it hurts Zimmerman she's not an acceptable witness.

You guys flip flop more than Romney.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

It's funny how Dee Dee is a great witness when they think her testimony benefits Zimmerman. But then when it looks like it hurts Zimmerman she's not an acceptable witness.

You guys flip flop more than Romney.

You are such a weak individual... Great way to shove your glaring political stance in with your other ridiculous accusations.


Who has said Deedee was a great witness? No kidding, I don't think I've read that by anyone other than the crumponite crew. She is a terrible witness, put her in front of a jury and see how well that works out....

 

[SpatiallyAware]

"if his father didn't have a Crips gang tattoo removed from his neck and replaced with praying hands between the first press conferences about this he attended, and the slightly later ones."



Did that really happen??!! Wow..... Wow.... Talk about a media campaign. One thing is for sure, crumponite and sharpton really know how to get a good emotional riot going.

 

[JKing106]

So be it. It's the truth, and that is all that matters.

Ask any honest person within the black community whether there is an extremely pervasive attitude of siding with other blacks, not snitchin', not cooperating in any way with the police. There is also a generally very low level of morals throughout a very high percentage of the black community (hence the amazing levels of crime) and the valuation of justice and truth just are not analogous to the levels you find in other communities.

There are of course blacks who this doesn't apply to, and what more can be said? To those it doesn't apply, it doesn't apply. Good for them, wish they were more common.

This attitude I'm talking about also includes the feeling that victimization of whites, or any non-blacks is somewhere between very permissible, to even desirable. Even among many who may not exactly approve of such actions, there will still be a preference for shielding the perpetrators from justice over helping the police. "My race, right or wrong" is the attitude.

These may be unfortunate realities, and realities you would prefer nobody spoke about. However, they are realities nonetheless. You would also quietly acknowledge the truth in them if I were a black person relaying them. You know that is the case.

If Trayvon was a clean cut, studious and squeaky clean lad and his girlfriend a well-spoken, intelligent young black woman straight out of Cosby general casting, or if his father didn't have a Crips gang tattoo removed from his neck and replaced with praying hands between the first press conferences about this he attended, and the slightly later ones... I would not be so quick to suspect endemic deception and obfuscation of the truth within camp Skittles.

Unfortunately, this is not the case. Trayvon's social media, his entire family's way of speaking, his father's serial adultery and "baby mamma" lifestyle, and Deedee's manifest stupidity in her interview, all point very strongly at a low moral character and readiness to lie among the entire group of them. If I saw meth-head looking white trash in the same situation, I would be suspecting them of lying and conniving too. If I saw a picture perfect black family, I wouldn't be taking that view.

Oh and as for your skepticism about Deedee and who she'd interview with... I did some searching, it's hard to find the exact articles now but a couple things are clear:

1.) She said she would only interview with the FBI, and only talk to any sort of law enforcement after extensive Crumpification.

2.) If she'd heard what she said she heard, she would've ended up on the radar of SPD and the Martin family far earlier into this. The fact that she did not contact any police department, not even Miami (who could've transferred her or given her a direct number) proves to any reasonable mind, she did not hear what she said she did, or she knew Trayvon was in a legally precarious situation, or both.

I am done putting political correctness ahead of the truth in my list of priorities, you should try making the same adjustment. It's really quite liberating.

I HIGHLY recommend time marker 5:50 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJH0LzPe4EA (the whole thing is worth a listen though)

Done with political correctness? You've only attempted half-ass, obviously false political correctness since you started posting in this thread. Which is about the same time you created this account. Which is not surprising, seeing how you're being paid to post here. You're not half as clever as you think. Just another racist hiding being rhetoric, insinuation, and innuendo. In other words, a coward, just like your hero Spidey. Who is probably you, anyway, posting under an alternate account.

"I'm a liberal, but..."

 

[classy]

So be it. It's the truth, and that is all that matters.

Ask any honest person within the black community whether there is an extremely pervasive attitude of siding with other blacks, not snitchin', not cooperating in any way with the police. There is also a generally very low level of morals throughout a very high percentage of the black community (hence the amazing levels of crime) and the valuation of justice and truth just are not analogous to the levels you find in other communities.

There are of course blacks who this doesn't apply to, and what more can be said? To those it doesn't apply, it doesn't apply. Good for them, wish they were more common.

This attitude I'm talking about also includes the feeling that victimization of whites, or any non-blacks is somewhere between very permissible, to even desirable. Even among many who may not exactly approve of such actions, there will still be a preference for shielding the perpetrators from justice over helping the police. "My race, right or wrong" is the attitude.

These may be unfortunate realities, and realities you would prefer nobody spoke about. However, they are realities nonetheless. You would also quietly acknowledge the truth in them if I were a black person relaying them. You know that is the case.

If Trayvon was a clean cut, studious and squeaky clean lad and his girlfriend a well-spoken, intelligent young black woman straight out of Cosby general casting, or if his father didn't have a Crips gang tattoo removed from his neck and replaced with praying hands between the first press conferences about this he attended, and the slightly later ones... I would not be so quick to suspect endemic deception and obfuscation of the truth within camp Skittles.

Unfortunately, this is not the case. Trayvon's social media, his entire family's way of speaking, his father's serial adultery and "baby mamma" lifestyle, and Deedee's manifest stupidity in her interview, all point very strongly at a low moral character and readiness to lie among the entire group of them. If I saw meth-head looking white trash in the same situation, I would be suspecting them of lying and conniving too. If I saw a picture perfect black family, I wouldn't be taking that view.

Oh and as for your skepticism about Deedee and who she'd interview with... I did some searching, it's hard to find the exact articles now but a couple things are clear:

1.) She said she would only interview with the FBI, and only talk to any sort of law enforcement after extensive Crumpification.

2.) If she'd heard what she said she heard, she would've ended up on the radar of SPD and the Martin family far earlier into this. The fact that she did not contact any police department, not even Miami (who could've transferred her or given her a direct number) proves to any reasonable mind, she did not hear what she said she did, or she knew Trayvon was in a legally precarious situation, or both.

I am done putting political correctness ahead of the truth in my list of priorities, you should try making the same adjustment. It's really quite liberating.

I HIGHLY recommend time marker 5:50 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJH0LzPe4EA (the whole thing is worth a listen though)

Dude who do you think you are?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Dee Dee's statements are inconsequential to this case. No doubt GZ was assaulted and during that assault he shot/killed the person that was assaulting him.

 

[spidey07]

Dee Dee's statements are inconsequential to this case. No doubt GZ was assaulted and during that assault he shot/killed the person that was assaulting him.

But he chased and hunted him down for his skittles and tea he was taking to loving brother and walking while black!

Or the other hilarious angle...
Treyvon was legally allowed to beat his head and face in and then mount him as zimmerman screamed for his life! That's perfectly legal!

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Done with political correctness? You've only attempted half-ass, obviously false political correctness since you started posting in this thread. Which is about the same time you created this account. Which is not surprising, seeing how you're being paid to post here. You're not half as clever as you think. Just another racist hiding being rhetoric, insinuation, and innuendo. In other words, a coward, just like your hero Spidey. Who is probably you, anyway, posting under an alternate account.

"I'm a liberal, but..."

It's interesting to me that you throw out these childish accusations and names..... yet you are the most guilty one in this thread.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

But he chased and hunted him down for his skittles and tea he was taking to loving brother and walking while black!

Or the other hilarious angle...
Treyvon was legally allowed to beat his head and face in and then mount him as zimmerman screamed for his life! That's perfectly legal!

Don't forget that this is justified because zimmerman kept an eye on him from a distance. I guess those gas station attendants are lucky trayvon didn't viciously assault them as well.

 

[lotus503]

So be it. It's the truth, and that is all that matters.

Ask any honest person within the black community whether there is an extremely pervasive attitude of siding with other blacks, not snitchin', not cooperating in any way with the police. There is also a generally very low level of morals throughout a very high percentage of the black community (hence the amazing levels of crime) and the valuation of justice and truth just are not analogous to the levels you find in other communities.

There are of course blacks who this doesn't apply to, and what more can be said? To those it doesn't apply, it doesn't apply. Good for them, wish they were more common.

This attitude I'm talking about also includes the feeling that victimization of whites, or any non-blacks is somewhere between very permissible, to even desirable. Even among many who may not exactly approve of such actions, there will still be a preference for shielding the perpetrators from justice over helping the police. "My race, right or wrong" is the attitude.

These may be unfortunate realities, and realities you would prefer nobody spoke about. However, they are realities nonetheless. You would also quietly acknowledge the truth in them if I were a black person relaying them. You know that is the case.

If Trayvon was a clean cut, studious and squeaky clean lad and his girlfriend a well-spoken, intelligent young black woman straight out of Cosby general casting, or if his father didn't have a Crips gang tattoo removed from his neck and replaced with praying hands between the first press conferences about this he attended, and the slightly later ones... I would not be so quick to suspect endemic deception and obfuscation of the truth within camp Skittles.

Unfortunately, this is not the case. Trayvon's social media, his entire family's way of speaking, his father's serial adultery and "baby mamma" lifestyle, and Deedee's manifest stupidity in her interview, all point very strongly at a low moral character and readiness to lie among the entire group of them. If I saw meth-head looking white trash in the same situation, I would be suspecting them of lying and conniving too. If I saw a picture perfect black family, I wouldn't be taking that view.

Oh and as for your skepticism about Deedee and who she'd interview with... I did some searching, it's hard to find the exact articles now but a couple things are clear:

1.) She said she would only interview with the FBI, and only talk to any sort of law enforcement after extensive Crumpification.

2.) If she'd heard what she said she heard, she would've ended up on the radar of SPD and the Martin family far earlier into this. The fact that she did not contact any police department, not even Miami (who could've transferred her or given her a direct number) proves to any reasonable mind, she did not hear what she said she did, or she knew Trayvon was in a legally precarious situation, or both.

I am done putting political correctness ahead of the truth in my list of priorities, you should try making the same adjustment. It's really quite liberating.

I HIGHLY recommend time marker 5:50 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJH0LzPe4EA (the whole thing is worth a listen though)

It's not the truth, it's your opinion as seen through bigoted glasses.
Regardless of your opinion on where the Martin's fit within the spectrum of black culture, Zimmerman is the person charged, dee dee is a witness, the only one that has data as to how it may have started.

Your opinion doesn't make things truth, it's not about political correctness it's about affording Martin and Zimmerman the same level of scrutiny, something you, spidey and other bigots are incapable of.

 

[spidey07]

How it started doesn't matter. Martin on top after beating zimmerman restraining him and/or still beating him = OK to shoot in self defense according to law. This is fact, proven by evidence.

 

[emperus]

So be it. It's the truth, and that is all that matters.

Ask any honest person within the black community whether there is an extremely pervasive attitude of siding with other blacks, not snitchin', not cooperating in any way with the police. There is also a generally very low level of morals throughout a very high percentage of the black community (hence the amazing levels of crime) and the valuation of justice and truth just are not analogous to the levels you find in other communities.

There are of course blacks who this doesn't apply to, and what more can be said? To those it doesn't apply, it doesn't apply. Good for them, wish they were more common.

This attitude I'm talking about also includes the feeling that victimization of whites, or any non-blacks is somewhere between very permissible, to even desirable. Even among many who may not exactly approve of such actions, there will still be a preference for shielding the perpetrators from justice over helping the police. "My race, right or wrong" is the attitude.

These may be unfortunate realities, and realities you would prefer nobody spoke about. However, they are realities nonetheless. You would also quietly acknowledge the truth in them if I were a black person relaying them. You know that is the case.

If Trayvon was a clean cut, studious and squeaky clean lad and his girlfriend a well-spoken, intelligent young black woman straight out of Cosby general casting, or if his father didn't have a Crips gang tattoo removed from his neck and replaced with praying hands between the first press conferences about this he attended, and the slightly later ones... I would not be so quick to suspect endemic deception and obfuscation of the truth within camp Skittles.

Unfortunately, this is not the case. Trayvon's social media, his entire family's way of speaking, his father's serial adultery and "baby mamma" lifestyle, and Deedee's manifest stupidity in her interview, all point very strongly at a low moral character and readiness to lie among the entire group of them. If I saw meth-head looking white trash in the same situation, I would be suspecting them of lying and conniving too. If I saw a picture perfect black family, I wouldn't be taking that view.

Oh and as for your skepticism about Deedee and who she'd interview with... I did some searching, it's hard to find the exact articles now but a couple things are clear:

1.) She said she would only interview with the FBI, and only talk to any sort of law enforcement after extensive Crumpification.

2.) If she'd heard what she said she heard, she would've ended up on the radar of SPD and the Martin family far earlier into this. The fact that she did not contact any police department, not even Miami (who could've transferred her or given her a direct number) proves to any reasonable mind, she did not hear what she said she did, or she knew Trayvon was in a legally precarious situation, or both.

I am done putting political correctness ahead of the truth in my list of priorities, you should try making the same adjustment. It's really quite liberating.

I HIGHLY recommend time marker 5:50 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJH0LzPe4EA (the whole thing is worth a listen though)

I see you're off the meds again. Seek help.

 

[lotus503]

Ding. Spidey wins. Damn lotus, that must hurt.

Unfortunately in not playing some game/ team sport. What spidey does is make a general statement and attach meaning to it that is subjective. Of course she didn't want to speak with SPD, but that doesn't mean what spidey wants it to mean.

 

[spidey07]

Unfortunately in not playing some game/ team sport. What spidey does is make a general statement and attach meaning to it that is subjective. Of course she didn't want to speak with SPD, but that doesn't mean what spidey wants it to mean.

I was pretty damn clear. She refused to talk to police and assist with their investigation.

 

[lotus503]

It's interesting to me that you throw out these childish accusations and names..... yet you are the most guilty one in this thread.

You frankly are one of the most bigoted pieces of shit in the thread. When confronted with direct evidence of your bigotry you tap dance and deflect.

What's the jewelry value up to now?

 

[lotus503]

I was pretty damn clear. She refused to talk to police and assist with their investigation.

No you infer because she wouldn't speak to SPD that her statements are less truthful. Truth is there are really good reasons for not giving them a statement given the situation at the time.

You imply it was because she was told not to, of which you have no evidence.

You imply she was coached, again no evidence.

 

[lotus503]

Dee Dee's statements are inconsequential to this case. No doubt GZ was assaulted and during that assault he shot/killed the person that was assaulting him.

I disagree, if she testifies she heard Martin yelling "get off" it's going to pose problems for Zimmerman.