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tashatexas

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Didn't it take 48 hours for trayvon's father to report him missing? Didn't the father's entire 'story' about the football game and all that completely fall apart??

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Wtf does that have to do with the fact that Zimmerman gave no house address and Martin had nothing with which to break into a house a fuckin mile away from where he lived and he didn't have a car? Idiot.
 

tashatexas

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Martin was "casing houses" in the community where he lived at 6:45 in the damn afternoon when the sun was barely going down and on a Sunday night when everyone was at home. Zimmerman's stupid ass was clearly HIGH AS FUCK.

WE KNOW that Martin was not up to any wrongdoing but I want to know how someone could be so not doing anything wrong and be perceived to be doing wrong to the tune of being high, casing houses and acting like he was packing heat. I dont think its possible for Tray to look so guilty and be so innocent. Zimmerman was making every bit of that stuff up. Including the house casing because all documented evidence says he saw the kid by the mailboxes and clubhouse.
 
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tashatexas

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Everything Zimmerman saw about trayvon rang true.. He likely was on drugs, being at least a small time dealer with his friends looking for "plant". He was caught with burglary equipment and valuable stolen jewelry... And, still no more robberies in that small community.

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He was not anywhere close to high and post a police report about stolen jewelry and burglary tools. The official SPD report should contain this info.
 

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Why would Trayvon go and check Zimmerman out if he was up to no good? What seasoned criminal wants to be identified before they commit a crime? If Trayvon did get close enough to Zimmerman so as to be identified that should have been a sign that Martin was not up to anything criminal, not a sign that Martin was up to something criminal.

You have obviously never spent any time in the bad parts of town.
 

tashatexas

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You have obviously never spent any time in the bad parts of town.

I know they don't just walk up to you and give you a free look at them about to commit a crime and then run from you, you follow and they dont bust a cap in your ass.

If Zimmerman really believed what he said about Tray he only gave chase because he was armed PERIOD.
 

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Hoodie wearing non-citizen who gets huge gummint hand-outs each and every year and who has never held a wage-paying job in her life.

She's got a ton of jewelry I know for a fact she didn't buy herself.

She's obviously up to no good. Somebody should shoot her!

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Geosurface

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LOL how do you "look" at a house suspiciously?, once again the FACTS, IT WAS RAINING THAT NIGHT..if your wearing a hooded sweatshirt chances are it's gonna be on, GZ sees him in a common area where the mailboxes are more than likely trying to stay dry, I live 35 miles from that area, was walking my dog that same time, rain squalls coming through. Now your actually speculating what he was thinking, wow, you must have unknown powers or just a racist, hating POS trying to hang your hat on ANYTHING to condemn this teen as someone who deserved to die anyway.

The fact is, when this story first broke everyone was absolutely jeering at Zimmerman like: "Oh my god how can this racist piece of shit possibly claim this angelic 12 year old boy I'm seeing pictures of looked like he was on drugs? Preposterous! Or that he was looking suspicious? My ass! Suspicious here meaning 'black' no doubt! Lynch this piece of shit! He just ASSUMED this kid was a criminal and a burglar and a druggie because he's black!!! And he shot him for no reason, there was definitely no physical struggle!"

Since that time, the following have happened:

  • We've found out Zimmerman did have injuries.
  • We've learned that there definitely was a physical struggle.
  • We've learned that Trayvon did use and sell drugs.
  • We've learned that Trayvon enjoyed not only the fairly tame weed, but also the fairly serious "lean"
  • We've learned that Trayvon was chronically in trouble at school, and had indeed had to switch high schools once. He was already on his third suspension at his new high school.
  • We've learned that Trayvon vandalized his new school, and when caught for it they found stolen jewelry and a burglary tool in his backpack.
  • We've learned that Trayvon was not a 12 year old angel but a towering, massive 17 year old as seen in the 7-11 video
  • Even in that brief video, the only one we'll probably ever have of Trayvon, in this little tiny snippet of his life we got to see, we see him attempt to break the law, and then in fact break it. He asks to buy tobacco products, and is rebuffed. Then he waits outside and pays slightly older dipshits to buy them for him. Circumventing, and breaking that law.

So I guess what I'm getting at is, every bit of information that has surfaced whether it be injury photos, doctor's report, EMT testimony, you name it... since that night, has piled more and more and more credibility onto what was initially a completely scoffed at account from GZ.

It shouldn't be surprising to you, at all, to learn that the other ways in which you remain skeptical of his story (that the kid was looking at houses suspiciously) are also true and counter to everyone's initial gut skepticism. That would be following a well established trend at this point.

GZ's initial core claim was that this kid looked like a burglar, up to no good, and on drugs. We've since learned he WAS a burglar, WAS a drug user, WAS constantly up to no good at least at school, and just fucking imagine how much more there is hiding in his sealed school records, how much is hiding behind him being a minor and what that implies for his criminal records and our ability to ever see them... how much is hiding behind the wall of silence all his friends would maintain, and certainly his family would maintain?

What was in that backpack all the other days they didn't have a direct reason to search it?
 
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Hoodie wearing non-citizen who gets huge gummint hand-outs each and every year and who has never held a wage-paying job in her life.

She's got a ton of jewelry I know for a fact she didn't buy herself.

She's obviously up to no good. Somebody should shoot her!

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If she's weaving around in a gas station unable to stand up straight, with hoodie pulled over not just her head - but her face, in a clear attempt to conceal ID... And then she's seen in a neighborhood "peering around houses" and appears "up to no good, like she's on drugs or something", and she then brutally attacks an innocent NW guy who is looking out for his neighborhood.............

Then yeah, in that case I would perfectly find with shooting her.


Also I know you're being facetious, but it's not just the hoodie... It's not just the stolen jewelry.. It's not just the (current) history of violence, it's not just the drug dealing, or burglary tools, or getting kicked out of two schools, or being sent to sanford by his mother to get away from the trouble, or any other the other multitude of things trayvon was wrapped up in..

You can't pick one thing out of there and make it out as though that's the ONE thing that people are upset about. It's a pattern of life choices trayvon made, about how to live and represent himself.
 

tashatexas

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SpacialAnus I'm still waiting for a link to the official report stating Martin had stolen jewelry and burglary tools on his person.

I thought Zimmerman supporters were only interested in facts.
 

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SpacialAnus I'm still waiting for a link to the official report stating Martin had stolen jewelry and burglary tools on his person.

I thought Zimmerman supporters were only interested in facts.

It was not in the Sanford area.

Look up the Miami connection on why he was suspended from school.
 

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What does it tell us about Trayvon's character that, through the almost impenetrable barrier of societal white guilt and mythos surrounding him, that in the very few little glimpses at who he really was we've been able to get... we see evidence of such prolific criminality?

We have only two videos which have ever surfaced showing Trayvon himself. In both, he is breaking the law.

1.) In the (now removed) YouTube video from his channel, we see him refereeing fights between other students. Is participating in fights on school grounds not illegal? I'm sure it's at least against the school policy.

2.) In the 7-11 surveillance video we see him attempting to purchase black & mild cigars, this is a violation of law and an attempt to get the clerk to violate the law. Is it a very minor one? In my view yes, but look at some of the possible penalties:

Penalties for Sales to Minors

It is unlawful to sell, deliver, barter, or furnish, directly or indirectly, any tobacco product to any person less than 18 years of age. Violation is a misdemeanor of the second degree punishable by a fine of $500, repeat violations within one year are a misdemeanor of the first degree punishable by a $1,000 fine for a second violation, $2,000 fine and 20 day suspension of the retailer&#8217;s permit for a third violation, and revocation of a retailer&#8217;s cigarette permit for a fourth and subsequent violations. All civil penalties may be substituted with license or permit suspensions using the ratio of one day for each $50. A person charged with a violation has a complete defense if a prudent person would believe the buyer or recipient to be 18 years of age or older; the buyer falsely evidenced that they were 18 years of age or older; and carefully checked specified forms of identification and acted in good faith and in reliance upon the representation and appearance of the buyer or recipient in the belief that the buyer or recipient was 18 years of age or older.

FLA. STAT. ch. 569.101 (1997) & FL ADMIN. CODE § 61A-2.022 (1997).

The Division of Alcoholic Beverages and Tobacco may mitigate penalties imposed against a dealer because of an employee&#8217;s illegal sale of a tobacco product to a minor if they qualify as a responsible retail dealer; the dealer provided the training program required to the employee before the violation occurred; and the dealer had no knowledge of that employee&#8217;s violation at the time of the violation and did not direct, approve, or participate in the violation.

FLA. STAT. ch. 569.008 (1997).

Penalties to Minors

It is unlawful for minors to knowingly possess any tobacco product or misrepresent their age for the purpose of purchasing, or attempting to purchase a tobacco product from a person or a vending machine. Penalty for the first violation within a 12-week period is 16 hours of community service or a $25 fine and the minor must attend a school approved anti-tobacco program. Penalty for the second violation in a 12-week period is a $25 fine. Third or subsequent violations within a 12-week period can result in suspension or revocation of a person&#8217;s driver&#8217;s license. Any law enforcement officer designated as a tobacco product enforcement officer is authorized to issue a citation to minors possessing or attempting to purchase tobacco products.

FLA. STAT. ch. 569.11 (2001).

Now I personally don't give a flying fuck about 17 year olds smoking tobacco, or even weed. Have at it. I think the laws regarding both, especially marijuana are stupid.

I'm just saying that in the 2 videos we've ever had of Trayvon, he was breaking the law in both.

And these are what made it to us through an incredibly powerful and thick shield of white guilt and family/friend/lawyer effort to shield any of this from ever seeing the light of day.

The one time we know of that his school had a valid reason to check his backpack, they found it loaded with stolen jewelry and a burglary tool. If you have any common sense you'll know this has huge implications for what was in that backpack on at least some percentage of days they didn't check it. Was that the worst thing ever in there? Maybe. Was stolen jewelry present in that bag on a regular basis? Perhaps. Maybe nothing worse than stolen jewelry and a sharpened/bent screwdriver (also considered a weapon if school officials had desired to press the issue) was ever in that bag... or maybe there were worse things at other times.

I just find it very very telling that in these very few glimpses into where his life was at at age 17, even in these... there is so much evidence of criminality.

Imagine what we'd know if he wasn't hiding behind white guilt, mythos, being a juvenile, being dead, and the fear on the part of anyone who might expose anything, plus the media not wanting to cover anything bad about him.

Consider further that even if you stripped away all of those factors which are shielding his reputation, you'd still only find out about what he was CAUGHT doing. Which I would wager represents a small fraction of what he actually did.
 

tashatexas

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The fact is, when this story first broke everyone was absolutely jeering at Zimmerman like: "Oh my god how can this racist piece of shit possibly claim this angelic 12 year old boy I'm seeing pictures of looked like he was on drugs? Preposterous! Or that he was looking suspicious? My ass! Suspicious here meaning 'black' no doubt! Lynch this piece of shit! He just ASSUMED this kid was a criminal and a burglar and a druggie because he's black!!! And he shot him for no reason, there was definitely no physical struggle!"

Since that time, the following have happened:

  • We've found out Zimmerman did have injuries. ( you mean nicks. He was not injured and refused care immediaty after and still has produced nothing stating he was 'injured')
  • We've learned that there definitely was a physical struggle. (Of course because Tray screamed.)
  • We've learned that Trayvon did use and sell drugs. (Where is the link to the proof?)
  • We've learned that Trayvon enjoyed not only the fairly tame weed, but also the fairly serious "lean"(proof and relevance)
  • We've learned that Trayvon was chronically in trouble at school, and had indeed had to switch high schools once. He was already on his third suspension at his new high school.
  • We've learned that Trayvon vandalized his new school, and when caught for it they found stolen jewelry and a burglary tool in his backpack.
  • We've learned that Trayvon was not a 12 year old angel but a towering, massive 17 year old as seen in the 7-11 video
  • Even in that brief video, the only one we'll probably ever have of Trayvon, in this little tiny snippet of his life we got to see, we see him attempt to break the law, and then in fact break it. He asks to buy tobacco products, and is rebuffed. Then he waits outside and pays slightly older dipshits to buy them for him. Circumventing, and breaking that law.

So I guess what I'm getting at is, every bit of information that has surfaced whether it be injury photos, doctor's report, EMT testimony, you name it... since that night, has piled more and more and more credibility onto what was initially a completely scoffed at account from GZ.

It shouldn't be surprising to you, at all, to learn that the other ways in which you remain skeptical of his story (that the kid was looking at houses suspiciously) are also true and counter to everyone's initial gut skepticism. That would be following a well established trend at this point.

GZ's initial core claim was that this kid looked like a burglar, up to no good, and on drugs. We've since learned he WAS a burglar, WAS a drug user, WAS constantly up to no good at least at school, and just fucking imagine how much more there is hiding in his sealed school records, how much is hiding behind him being a minor and what that implies for his criminal records and our ability to ever see them... how much is hiding behind the wall of silence all his friends would maintain, and certainly his family would maintain?

What was in that backpack all the other days they didn't have a direct reason to search it?


I got tired of responding to this bullshit. What we learned is Trayvon was a teenager who not on drugs the night in question and not looking to rob houses. His school performave hasn't shit to do with this case and was none of Zimmermans business. Further he has no history of violence as a kid even when 90% of us had been in a fight by the time we were 17, not Trayvon. What have we since learned about the violent tendency of his murderer during his adult years?
 

tashatexas

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Zimmerman is also objecting prosecutors' request for his medical records.

Zimmerman asked a judge this week to stop a subpoena for his medical records. A hearing is set for Friday.

Zimmerman says the request is too broad and will include information that is irrelevant. Cnn.com
So we've yet to see a single medical record why is Geosurface, who only deals in facts, lying?
 

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Zimmerman is also objecting prosecutors' request for his medical records.

Zimmerman asked a judge this week to stop a subpoena for his medical records. A hearing is set for Friday.

Zimmerman says the request is too broad and will include information that is irrelevant. Cnn.com
So we've yet to see a single medical record why is Geosurface, who only deals in facts, lying?

Welcome to last week. Judge will review GZ's medical records and determine what is relevant to the case.
 

tashatexas

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Welcome to last week. Judge will review GZ's medical records and determine what is relevant to the case.

Then you admit you ignorant illiterate sons of bitches have been wrong about what his "medical records" say? We haven't seen any per your own admission dumbo
 

tashatexas

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So again, these Zimmerman supporters who are clearly interested in this case out of EMOTIONALISM can't even read their own links and determine we've not seen a single medical record from a DOCTOR yet that does not keep them from making statements like "we know he was injured according to his medical records." That entire statement has been repeated for months and has been a lie for months. Why can't Zimmerthug supporters read?
 

tashatexas

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The morning after he killed Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman went to a clinic with what appeared to be a broken nose, two black eyes and two cuts on the back of his head. But the physician&#8217;s assistant who treated him determined he neither needed X-rays nor had he suffered head trauma, newly released medical records show.

Zimmerman declined to go to an ear, nose and throat specialist even though it was recommended, the physician&#8217;s assistant wrote. She also suggested he see a psychologist because of what he had just gone through. miamiherald.com
 

tashatexas

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Welcome to last week. Judge will review GZ's medical records and determine what is relevant to the case.

So of course he doesn't want them released because all of them are irrelevant because NONE of them corroborate the "broken nose" lie he's been telling for 6 months.