UN votes resoundingly reject Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as capital

[FIVR]

Lol now that is funny. First I’m Canadian. Second it wasn’t just the US that came to the conclusion that Assad carried out the attack against his people.

But do go on. This is why you get branded a Putin puppet on here.

Lol what's funny is that you think you know who conducted the attack in Ghouta when James Clapper admitted the CIA didn't even know who did it. Also, who do you think consumes US state department propaganda along with US citizens? That's right, canadians.... which should be obvious considering you seem to have no problem parroting typical US state department talking points about Assad.



Oh btw, how is your "Assad must go" campaign doing? Is he going yet?

LOL

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Better be careful or FIVR will send his 1000 pilots to rain down a bigly smiting.

yeah he strikes me as more a Twenty One Pilots kind of guy.

 

[theeedude]

We got Nauru's vote, that's what matters.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Time to start pulling out part of the $10 BILLION we dump on the U.N. every year. Lots of place we can cut massively and still be doing more than our fair share.


"As the Council on Foreign Relations reports, the U.S. is responsible for nearly 40 percent of the U.N.'s refugee agency, 35 percent of the World Food Programme's total budget, and more than 30 percent of the International Organization for Migration. It provides over $2 billion a year to the U.N.'s peacekeeping budget excluding the massive cost of American military security guarantees, and 22 percent of the U.N.'s operating budget.
We recognize that many frontline U.N. programs do important work in saving and improving lives. But Trump is right to expect a measure of gratitude for this nation's commitments. Instead, he is receiving scorn and rebuke for practicing the most basic right of sovereign power to decide, in concert with a host nation, where to locate an embassy. The casual view at East 42nd Street seems to be: "American taxpayers, write us a check, then shut up and listen while we educate them about their nation's inadequacies."

Sorry, folks, that's not how it works. While the U.N., and many of the bankrupt cutthroats who make up its membership, have long nurtured an unveiled contempt for America and conservatives, it is they, not we, who are going to have to shape up. Trump should push unflinchingly for reform at the U.N.

First, he should double down on previously announced budgetary plans and cut U.S. spending on the U.N. by 25 percent. That figure would cause consternation in the U.N. accounting and political offices, but it would not harm lives. If the denizens of Turtle Bay are convinced of the need to act in multilateral companionship, European members could pull together the $2.5 billion or so necessary to offset U.S. cuts.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...ook-the-turkeys-of-turtle-bay/article/2644199

 

[theeedude]

Throwing a tantrum and cutting food and refugee aid will do wonders for US global reputation.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Throwing a tantrum and cutting food and refugee aid will do wonders for US global reputation.

Who cares about our reputation with thug regimes? Besides leftists and Commies? Oh no! Venezuela and Cuba with seats on the U.N. Human Rights Council will say mean things about us!

 

[Thebobo]

Time to start pulling out part of the $10 BILLION we dump on the U.N. every year. Lots of place we can cut massively and still be doing more than our fair share.


"As the Council on Foreign Relations reports, the U.S. is responsible for nearly 40 percent of the U.N.'s refugee agency, 35 percent of the World Food Programme's total budget, and more than 30 percent of the International Organization for Migration. It provides over $2 billion a year to the U.N.'s peacekeeping budget excluding the massive cost of American military security guarantees, and 22 percent of the U.N.'s operating budget.
We recognize that many frontline U.N. programs do important work in saving and improving lives. But Trump is right to expect a measure of gratitude for this nation's commitments. Instead, he is receiving scorn and rebuke for practicing the most basic right of sovereign power to decide, in concert with a host nation, where to locate an embassy. The casual view at East 42nd Street seems to be: "American taxpayers, write us a check, then shut up and listen while we educate them about their nation's inadequacies."

Sorry, folks, that's not how it works. While the U.N., and many of the bankrupt cutthroats who make up its membership, have long nurtured an unveiled contempt for America and conservatives, it is they, not we, who are going to have to shape up. Trump should push unflinchingly for reform at the U.N.

First, he should double down on previously announced budgetary plans and cut U.S. spending on the U.N. by 25 percent. That figure would cause consternation in the U.N. accounting and political offices, but it would not harm lives. If the denizens of Turtle Bay are convinced of the need to act in multilateral companionship, European members could pull together the $2.5 billion or so necessary to offset U.S. cuts.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...ook-the-turkeys-of-turtle-bay/article/2644199

So your opinion is to copy paste an opinion piece from the right wing washington examiner? BTW the last two paragraphs are also directly from the washington examiner you need to quote them as well.

Now on to your claim that the UN cost pays the UN 10 billion a year is not exactly correct.

"All told, the United States provides about $3.3 billion a year to finance U.N. activities. A 40 percent cut would save taxpayers about $1.3 billion out of the current $4.1 trillion U.S. federal budget. The impact on the U.N. would be substantial, although the precise effect would depend on how the cuts are spread around."

http://www.politifact.com/global-ne...01/rob-portman/us-contribution-un-22-percent/

 

[Victorian Gray]

Countries such as those mentioned don't have any credibility to make such a statement. Its like condemning the neighbors for setting their house on fire when yours is burning behind you while you say it.

Why concentrate on a couple of examples like that when, essentially, the whole world is against this?

 

[fskimospy]

Time to start pulling out part of the $10 BILLION we dump on the U.N. every year. Lots of place we can cut massively and still be doing more than our fair share.


"As the Council on Foreign Relations reports, the U.S. is responsible for nearly 40 percent of the U.N.'s refugee agency, 35 percent of the World Food Programme's total budget, and more than 30 percent of the International Organization for Migration. It provides over $2 billion a year to the U.N.'s peacekeeping budget excluding the massive cost of American military security guarantees, and 22 percent of the U.N.'s operating budget.
We recognize that many frontline U.N. programs do important work in saving and improving lives. But Trump is right to expect a measure of gratitude for this nation's commitments. Instead, he is receiving scorn and rebuke for practicing the most basic right of sovereign power to decide, in concert with a host nation, where to locate an embassy. The casual view at East 42nd Street seems to be: "American taxpayers, write us a check, then shut up and listen while we educate them about their nation's inadequacies."

Sorry, folks, that's not how it works. While the U.N., and many of the bankrupt cutthroats who make up its membership, have long nurtured an unveiled contempt for America and conservatives, it is they, not we, who are going to have to shape up. Trump should push unflinchingly for reform at the U.N.

First, he should double down on previously announced budgetary plans and cut U.S. spending on the U.N. by 25 percent. That figure would cause consternation in the U.N. accounting and political offices, but it would not harm lives. If the denizens of Turtle Bay are convinced of the need to act in multilateral companionship, European members could pull together the $2.5 billion or so necessary to offset U.S. cuts.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...ook-the-turkeys-of-turtle-bay/article/2644199

That was a pretty funny temper tantrum. You guys need a time out or something.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Just remember you sided with Russia and North Korea and against the US. Since the Senate voted 90-0 in June to reaffirm the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995, it seems there a lot of D's and R's are in agreement and this isn't just a Trump thing.

I side with pretty much the entire world bunky so you can shove your crap about Russia and N. Korea in the appropriate orifice.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You don't know who killed those Syrians, but you think you do. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason Obama didn't go all shock and awe on Assad is because his intelligence agencies told him that it was possible Assad wasn't responsible?


Your mind is clearly a trash bin for US state department propaganda, lol.

It's so cute when you defend that butcher Assad and his bff Vlad. Does it pull in a couple of more rubles for you?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So your opinion is to copy paste an opinion piece from the right wing washington examiner? BTW the last two paragraphs are also directly from the washington examiner you need to quote them as well.

Now on to your claim that the UN cost pays the UN 10 billion a year is not exactly correct.

"All told, the United States provides about $3.3 billion a year to finance U.N. activities. A 40 percent cut would save taxpayers about $1.3 billion out of the current $4.1 trillion U.S. federal budget. The impact on the U.N. would be substantial, although the precise effect would depend on how the cuts are spread around."

http://www.politifact.com/global-ne...01/rob-portman/us-contribution-un-22-percent/

Sorry, I don't accept your whine about The Washington Examiner and then you cut and paste post a bullshit post from Politifuct.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/06/16/america-pay-way-too-much-for-united-nations.html

"..Over the last six decades, the share of the U.N. expenses borne by poor or small member states has steadily ratcheted downward to near- microscopic levels. From 1974 to 1998, the minimum mandatory payment for the regular budget for example, fell from 0.04 percent to 0.001 percent. For the peacekeeping budget, the minimum is 0.0001 percent.
In addition, over three quarters of the total U.N. membership get additional discounts, with the cost also shifted to wealthier countries.

The end result is a hugely skewed bill for U.N. expenses.

In 2015, 35 countries will be charged the minimum regular budget assessment of 0.001 percent which works out to approximately$28,269 each. Twenty countries will be charged the minimum peacekeeping assessment of 0.0001 percent or approximately $8,470 apiece.

By contrast, the U.S. is assessed 22 percent of the regular budget (approximately $622 million) and over 28 percent of the peacekeeping budget (approximately $2.402 billion).
· An independent academic study assessing best and worst practices among aid agencies ranked U.N. organizations among the worst.

· Numerous reports, audits, and investigations have revealed mismanagement, fraud and corruption in procurement for U.N. peacekeeping.

· Studies and reports have identified U.N. peacekeepers as the source of the cholera outbreak that ravaged Haiti starting in 2010, leaving more than 8,000 dead and more than 600,000 seriously sickened.

· A 2014 study of eight of the nine U.N. peacekeeping operations with a mandate to protect civilians found that peacekeepers “did not report responding to 406 (80 per cent) of [the 570] incidents where civilians were attacked.”

· U.N. personnel have been accused of sexual exploitation and abuse in Bosnia, Burundi, Cambodia, Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Guinea, Kosovo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Sudan. Recent news stories from the Central African Republic and Haiti indicate the problem is still far too common and the U.N. is more interested in concealing the issue than in confronting it

· Atop all that, U.N. employees enjoy extremely generous benefits and salaries—over 32 percent higher than U.S. civil servants of equivalent rank.

Put another way, the U.S. will be assessed more than 176 other member states combined for the regular budget and more than 185 countries combined for the peacekeeping budget. Who says America isn’t exceptional!

This is more than a complaint about dollars. It’s also about the value received for those outsized contributions. Consider:
· An independent academic study assessing best and worst practices among aid agencies ranked U.N. organizations among the worst.

· Numerous reports, audits, and investigations have revealed mismanagement, fraud and corruption in procurement for U.N. peacekeeping.

· Studies and reports have identified U.N. peacekeepers as the source of the cholera outbreak that ravaged Haiti starting in 2010, leaving more than 8,000 dead and more than 600,000 seriously sickened.

· A 2014 study of eight of the nine U.N. peacekeeping operations with a mandate to protect civilians found that peacekeepers “did not report responding to 406 (80 per cent) of [the 570] incidents where civilians were attacked.”

· U.N. personnel have been accused of sexual exploitation and abuse in Bosnia, Burundi, Cambodia, Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Guinea, Kosovo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Sudan. Recent news stories from the Central African Republic and Haiti indicate the problem is still far too common and the U.N. is more interested in concealing the issue than in confronting it

· Atop all that, U.N. employees enjoy extremely generous benefits and salaries—over 32 percent higher than U.S. civil servants of equivalent rank. ..................."

Considering all the other costs we're easily up to 10 Billion.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Why concentrate on a couple of examples like that when, essentially, the whole world is against this?

They're not, Canada ab stained.

 

[Victorian Gray]

They're not, Canada ab stained.

What an incredibly ignorant little fascista you are. You quite simply don't have even the glimmering of a clue.

Don't forget to breath now.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

What an incredibly ignorant little fascista you are. You quite simply don't have even the glimmering of a clue.

Don't forget to breath now.

So, are you denying that Canada abstained in this vote? Come on, you can say it. Or better yet deny it or just don't answer, that would be best.

 

[Victorian Gray]

So, are you denying that Canada abstained in this vote? Come on, you can say it. Or better yet deny it or just don't answer, that would be best.

Not denying anything little fascista. Simply pointing out that you are either too stupid or too ignorant to understand what that means.

 

[Thebobo]

Sorry, I don't accept your whine about The Washington Examiner and then you cut and paste post a bullshit post from Politifuct.


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/06/16/america-pay-way-too-much-for-united-nations.html

"..Over the last six decades, the share of the U.N. expenses borne by poor or small member states has steadily ratcheted downward to near- microscopic levels. From 1974 to 1998, the minimum mandatory payment for the regular budget for example, fell from 0.04 percent to 0.001 percent. For the peacekeeping budget, the minimum is 0.0001 percent.
In addition, over three quarters of the total U.N. membership get additional discounts, with the cost also shifted to wealthier countries.

The end result is a hugely skewed bill for U.N. expenses.

In 2015, 35 countries will be charged the minimum regular budget assessment of 0.001 percent which works out to approximately$28,269 each. Twenty countries will be charged the minimum peacekeeping assessment of 0.0001 percent or approximately $8,470 apiece.

By contrast, the U.S. is assessed 22 percent of the regular budget (approximately $622 million) and over 28 percent of the peacekeeping budget (approximately $2.402 billion).
· An independent academic study assessing best and worst practices among aid agencies ranked U.N. organizations among the worst.

· Numerous reports, audits, and investigations have revealed mismanagement, fraud and corruption in procurement for U.N. peacekeeping.

· Studies and reports have identified U.N. peacekeepers as the source of the cholera outbreak that ravaged Haiti starting in 2010, leaving more than 8,000 dead and more than 600,000 seriously sickened.

· A 2014 study of eight of the nine U.N. peacekeeping operations with a mandate to protect civilians found that peacekeepers “did not report responding to 406 (80 per cent) of [the 570] incidents where civilians were attacked.”

· U.N. personnel have been accused of sexual exploitation and abuse in Bosnia, Burundi, Cambodia, Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Guinea, Kosovo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Sudan. Recent news stories from the Central African Republic and Haiti indicate the problem is still far too common and the U.N. is more interested in concealing the issue than in confronting it

· Atop all that, U.N. employees enjoy extremely generous benefits and salaries—over 32 percent higher than U.S. civil servants of equivalent rank.

Put another way, the U.S. will be assessed more than 176 other member states combined for the regular budget and more than 185 countries combined for the peacekeeping budget. Who says America isn’t exceptional!

This is more than a complaint about dollars. It’s also about the value received for those outsized contributions. Consider:
· An independent academic study assessing best and worst practices among aid agencies ranked U.N. organizations among the worst.

· Numerous reports, audits, and investigations have revealed mismanagement, fraud and corruption in procurement for U.N. peacekeeping.

· Studies and reports have identified U.N. peacekeepers as the source of the cholera outbreak that ravaged Haiti starting in 2010, leaving more than 8,000 dead and more than 600,000 seriously sickened.

· A 2014 study of eight of the nine U.N. peacekeeping operations with a mandate to protect civilians found that peacekeepers “did not report responding to 406 (80 per cent) of [the 570] incidents where civilians were attacked.”

· U.N. personnel have been accused of sexual exploitation and abuse in Bosnia, Burundi, Cambodia, Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Guinea, Kosovo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Sudan. Recent news stories from the Central African Republic and Haiti indicate the problem is still far too common and the U.N. is more interested in concealing the issue than in confronting it

· Atop all that, U.N. employees enjoy extremely generous benefits and salaries—over 32 percent higher than U.S. civil servants of equivalent rank. ..................."

Considering all the other costs we're easily up to 10 Billion.

Zealot to the end.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Zealot to the end.

You are wrong and misinformed to the end, but i can see why. There's a reason for it and i'ts hard to find the numbers of how much money the United States spends each year on the United Nations. This report from the Heritage Foundation explains it a bit closer.

http://www.heritage.org/global-politics/commentary/how-much-does-the-un-cost-us


"Most everyone knows the United States is the largest contributor to the United Nations and its affiliated funds, programs, and specialized agencies. But nailing down precisely how much we pay into the U.N. system every year is no easy task.

Although most U.S. contributions come from the State Department and the U.S. Agency for International Development, hundreds of millions of dollars also flow into the U.N. system from other parts of the federal government. For instance, the U.S. Department of Agriculture provides funding to the Food and Agriculture Organization, the Department of Energy gives money to the International Atomic Energy Agency, and the Department of Health and Human Services supports the World Health Organization.
Given the complexity of the funding flow, no definitive tally of total U.S. contributions to the U.N. system was available prior to 2006. Until then, estimates relied on incomplete State Department data.
That changed when Senator Tom Coburn (R., Okla.) asked former OMB director Rob Portman for a comprehensive report on total U.S. contributions to the U.N. system for fiscal years 2001 through 2005. Because OMB is in charge of overseeing the preparation of the president’s budget, it was in a position to require all parts of the U.S. government to report the requested information.
The first report was an eye-opener. The OMB calculated that U.S. contributions totaled $4.115 billion in 2004 and $5.327 billion in 2005. The State Department had estimated 2004 contributions at “well over $3 billion” — only about 75 percent of the actual amount.

For the next two years, Congress required the State Department to compile the report. But State implausibly reported that the U.S. had reduced its U.N. contributions in FY 2006 and, again, in FY 2007.
In response, Congress tasked OMB to compile the report. According to OMB, FY 2010 marked the third consecutive year in which U.S. contributions reached record highs. In FY 2010, they exceeded $7.691 billion — more than $1.3 billion higher than FY 2009’s record of $6.347 billion.

If you’re wondering how much we contributed last year, good luck. Congress neglected to renew the reporting requirement. I’ve spoken to Obama-administration officials, and they say they’ve prepared the data in anticipation of producing the report, but OMB will not issue the report without a Congressional mandate.
...............................

 

[Thebobo]

Never liked the Heritage Foundation, tad extreme right wing for me, even the right shunned them.

http://www.heritage.org/global-politics/commentary/how-much-does-the-un-cost-us

I understand it's complicated but I don't do extreme right wing opinions. Whatever the amount is the point was to not act like children and call out other countries in public.
Something only third world, banana republic dictatorships do. Its beneath the countries dignity, or it use to be. Of course trump's big mouth started it all.

 

[Jhhnn]

They're not, Canada ab stained.

True. Trump just put the gun to their heads & pulled back the hammer. "Go ahead, vote your conscience." (Click). I figure it's much the same with anybody who didn't go with the majority.

Beyond that, If the US govt didn't want the UN we wouldn't pay for it. Apparently we do, even if the reasons are beyond your feeble comprehension. OTOH, only a fool like you would think that means the ROTW needs to suck up like Mike Pence & the rest of the Trump Cabinet.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Never liked the Heritage Foundation, tad extreme right wing for me, even the right shunned them.

http://www.heritage.org/global-politics/commentary/how-much-does-the-un-cost-us

I understand it's complicated but I don't do extreme right wing opinions. Whatever the amount is the point was to not act like children and call out other countries in public.
Something only third world, banana republic dictatorships do. Its beneath the countries dignity, or it use to be. Of course trump's big mouth started it all.

I can understand and i hesitated to link it, but it's pretty damn hard to find information about how much the United States actually pays into all the different United Nation programs and the cost of maintaining the U.N. building in the United States. At least the Heritage Foundation pointed why it's so hard to find the numbers.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

True. Trump just put the gun to their heads & pulled back the hammer. "Go ahead, vote your conscience." (Click). I figure it's much the same with anybody who didn't go with the majority.

Beyond that, If the US govt didn't want the UN we wouldn't pay for it. Apparently we do, even if the reasons are beyond your feeble comprehension. OTOH, only a fool like you would think that means the ROTW needs to suck up like Mike Pence & the rest of the Trump Cabinet.

It's useful to us and to the world as a whole, but I see no reason to continue funding it at the levels we fund it when they actively work against our interests.

 

[OutHouse]

Thanks for your opinion but do you have any facts to back up your opinion? Or you just trolling?

LOL did you just really ask that? HAHAHAHAHAHAH dude....

 

[OutHouse]

What an incredibly ignorant little fascista you are. You quite simply don't have even the glimmering of a clue.

Don't forget to breath now.

lol you got bitch slapped with facts and you come back with insults. lol so typical of you.

 

[Victorian Gray]

lol you got bitch slapped with facts and you come back with insults. lol so typical of you.

A "fact" that he has absolutely no understanding of. It's good of you to be concerned on his behalf though. I'm sure he appreciates it.