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U.S. Announces Sanctions Against Iran
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Iranian Weapons Arm Iraqi Militia
Iranian Weapons Found In Iraq
Iraq Weapons - Made In Iran?
Top Iranian Officials Ordering Bombs To Iraq
Iranian Support For Lethal Activities In Iraq
The list goes on and on. Now you put up, or shut up.
Noobtastic
Banned
Who? Saudi Arabia? Well duh, if that's who you're referring to.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...3/AR2007030300609.html
http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchi...6dmslahrellek0.3060114
Iran also contributes to Hezbollah. Who do you honestly think supports the insurgency? Allah?
The Green Bean
Diamond Member
Took the words right out of my mouth. I also believe that China and Russia have more to lose from an attack on Iran than gain. They will probably veto any further resolution against Iran. This war might just isolate the US politically from the rest of the world. Britain may support it but it's always been America's neutered poodle.
Where is your precedent? To my knowledge only one country in the world has ever actually wielded nuclear weapons against another. I am getting sick of this preemptive strike mentality when there is no clear or real threat. First Iraq, now Iran, and you can see how well Iraq turned out.
BMW540I6speed
Golden Member
It is a clear violation of the NPT treaty to aid India as the US is doing now- yet I have seen this clear illegality described as being merely a "sensitive position" by the "Paper of Record" in this country.
Few Americans are even aware that Iran has a right to nuclear fuel enrichment under the NPT treaty. In story after story vital and pertinent backround information is simply omitted and the reader is left with the impression that the quite legal activities being discussed are somehow nefarious and dangerous and illegal.
The fact of the matter is that the US is in violation of the NPT treaty by even trying to get sanctions put on Iran- in the complete abscense of any evidence that would suggest they have a nuke weapon program.
The Non-Proliferation Treaty has provided the only strategy that has ever been successful at limiting proliferation. Thanks to incentives prescribed by the Non-Proliferation Treaty, five countries--Belarus, Kazakhstan, South Africa, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan--have given up the possession of atomic bombs. Ten other countries--Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, Iraq, Libya, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, and Taiwan-- have ended programs to develop nuclear weapons.
North Korea was close to ending its nuclear weapons and long-range missile program in 2000, until George Bush replaced negotiations with threats and insults. Present negotiations may result in the same agreement that was thrown away four years ago--four years that North Korea used to develop and test an atomic bomb.
The leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has issued a Fatwa saying that the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islam, and it is the Ayatollah, and not President Ahmadinejad, who is Iran?s ?decider.? But the Ayatollah may well change his mind if he becomes convinced that the security of his nation requires the bomb.
The world, until recently, looked to the United States for leadership. But our leadership depended on the moral stature that the U. S. had achieved through our contributions to world peace, human rights, and international law. We should begin to regain our moral standing by complying, ourselves, with the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons Treaty.
Few Americans are even aware that Iran has a right to nuclear fuel enrichment under the NPT treaty. In story after story vital and pertinent backround information is simply omitted and the reader is left with the impression that the quite legal activities being discussed are somehow nefarious and dangerous and illegal.
The fact of the matter is that the US is in violation of the NPT treaty by even trying to get sanctions put on Iran- in the complete abscense of any evidence that would suggest they have a nuke weapon program.
The Non-Proliferation Treaty has provided the only strategy that has ever been successful at limiting proliferation. Thanks to incentives prescribed by the Non-Proliferation Treaty, five countries--Belarus, Kazakhstan, South Africa, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan--have given up the possession of atomic bombs. Ten other countries--Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, Iraq, Libya, South Korea, Sweden, Switzerland, and Taiwan-- have ended programs to develop nuclear weapons.
North Korea was close to ending its nuclear weapons and long-range missile program in 2000, until George Bush replaced negotiations with threats and insults. Present negotiations may result in the same agreement that was thrown away four years ago--four years that North Korea used to develop and test an atomic bomb.
The leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has issued a Fatwa saying that the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islam, and it is the Ayatollah, and not President Ahmadinejad, who is Iran?s ?decider.? But the Ayatollah may well change his mind if he becomes convinced that the security of his nation requires the bomb.
The world, until recently, looked to the United States for leadership. But our leadership depended on the moral stature that the U. S. had achieved through our contributions to world peace, human rights, and international law. We should begin to regain our moral standing by complying, ourselves, with the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons Treaty.
Noobtastic
Banned
This is a waste of bandwidth.
A lot of AK47 with Russian and East European markings were found in Iraq as well, does that mean that the Russians and East Europeans are in cahoots with the insurgents? NO. Try again. We're trying to prove the Iranian government is complicit in the chaos of Iraq, people. Shit, do we have any lawyers on this forum?
palehorse
Lifer
You'd have to be ignorant and/or ridiculously stubborn to entirely dismiss Iran's active role in the Iraqi violence.
The same is true with Saudi Arabia and their support of various sunni groups in Iraq.
Now, whether or not their obvious role in Iraqi violence is worth going to war over, is another issue altogether... I think that I've made it quite clear that I hope and pray every day that never happens.
The same is true with Saudi Arabia and their support of various sunni groups in Iraq.
Now, whether or not their obvious role in Iraqi violence is worth going to war over, is another issue altogether... I think that I've made it quite clear that I hope and pray every day that never happens.
Noobtastic
Banned
Then what do you suggest? Taking the bench like we did post-WWI?
Sanctions won't work unless they affect those in power. Examples Cuba and South Africa. Sanctions made Castro stronger, Poor country, what did they have to lose. The elite in South Africa was rich, sanctions gave them a panic attack. Probable Sanction reaction in Iran, "Up your's USA!", a complete opposite reaction.
Harshest sanctions since 1979?
The sanctions in the 80's when we pushed Saddam to invade Iran, and he used WMD on their schoolchildren and a million Iranian casualties occured to be harsher. The 1953 sanctions where the US took their democracy to put a US puppet dictator in power too.
The sanctions in the 80's when we pushed Saddam to invade Iran, and he used WMD on their schoolchildren and a million Iranian casualties occured to be harsher. The 1953 sanctions where the US took their democracy to put a US puppet dictator in power too.
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