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zsdersw

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That would be cost prohibitable, formula is for newborns and expensive. You know those things that pop out after 9 months after a man and woman have sex?

Yes, I know... but it's the most appropriate beverage for you right now.
 

Texashiker

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If you were at all a person who thinks critically about things, you'd realize that hemorrhoids are not caused by pleasurable anal sex.

Then again, you're clearly not a critically-thinking person.. so to you anal sex between two guys is "eww!" so you close your ears and say "la la la la", perpetuating your ignorance.

That is right, la la la,,,, with a touch of ewww.
 

Texashiker

Lifer
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So, did you also ignore the article I posted about homosexuality and genetics? I wouldn't be surprised if you did.

I read the article.

The only thing I got from it was speculation and attempts to justify a gay choice.
 

NesuD

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I can remember both my parents using that clause in their divorce decree against each other at one time or another when I was a kid. This is just a harassment tactic being perpetrated by the ex-husband. Technically speaking the clause is there so the judge is bound to enforce it if the husband brings it to his attention.

Simple solution is to go get married in a state where same sex marriage is legal. States are constitutionally bound to recognize contracts entered into in other states and that includes marriage contracts. Would cost a lot less than fighting it in the courts most likely. Of course then we would miss out on all the fun of a thread like this one.
 

thraashman

Lifer
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The court of public opinion has said gay relationships are immoral.

I, as an individual, say that I should not be forced to respect someone for their decision to live an alternative and immoral lifestyle.

That's the same fucking argument as saying if your state decided that a white woman marrying a black man was immoral then it's right and ok to discriminate against them. And it's fucking bigoted and you know it.
 

nehalem256

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Nope. I still maintain that the judge's decision is stupid and should be overturned.

The custody dispute may be because or fueled by her being a lesbian. We don't know if it does, but it's as likely as any other explanation.

Lets think a minute. She has been in a lesbian relationship for 3 years. They have been divorced for 2 years.

Why is the fact that she is lesbian going to now cause him to start a custody dispute?

Especially given the plethora of reasons that could exist whether or not she was a lesbian.
 

thraashman

Lifer
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I can remember both my parents using that clause in their divorce decree against each other at one time or another when I was a kid. This is just a harassment tactic being perpetrated by the ex-husband. Technically speaking the clause is there so the judge is bound to enforce it if the husband brings it to his attention.

Simple solution is to go get married in a state where same sex marriage is legal. States are constitutionally bound to recognize contracts entered into in other states and that includes marriage contracts. Would cost a lot less than fighting it in the courts most likely. Of course then we would miss out on all the fun of a thread like this one.

Actually, so long as DOMA remains, the exact opposite is true. Doma specifically allows states to ignore gay marriages in other states if it wants to. It's a very discriminatory law and very unconstitutional.
 

Genx87

Lifer
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That has yet to be proven.

Show me the gene for gayness, and I will retract my statements and post an apology.

Come on really? Why do you think gay people are attracted to the same sex? Why am I attracted to women? I seem to remember it happening naturally as my balls dropped. Nobody taught or influenced me into liking the opposite sex. It is imo within our DNA whom we are attracted too. I am sure some day they may find the gene. Sadly I expect some people to also try to develope a gene therapy for it.
 

nehalem256

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Actually, so long as DOMA remains, the exact opposite is true. Doma specifically allows states to ignore gay marriages in other states if it wants to. It's a very discriminatory law and very unconstitutional.

There are plenty of other instances where states ignore contracts from other states, that would be illegal in the state.

For example I recall a story from a couple of months ago about a surrogate mother who ran away to another state to avoid having the surrogacy contract enforced.
 

Genx87

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I'd think a morality clause be deemed too ambiguous to enforce. Morality is a personal decision and everybody has their own set of morals.
 

zsdersw

Lifer
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Lets think a minute. She has been in a lesbian relationship for 3 years. They have been divorced for 2 years.

Why is the fact that she is lesbian going to now cause him to start a custody dispute?

Especially given the plethora of reasons that could exist whether or not she was a lesbian.

I didn't say it started it, but it could be fueling it.
 

nehalem256

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I'd think a morality clause be deemed too ambiguous to enforce. Morality is a personal decision and everybody has their own set of morals.

I think the morality clause specifically spells out moral conditions you must uphold. A couple divorcing would be free to spell out their own set of morals.

The problem appears to be that the woman in question didnt read the contract she was signing.
 

silverpig

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Wrong. This isn't 1950.

For the record I totally agree with you on this matter and hope the judge is overturned, but I think he has you on the moral issue.

AFAIK, "moral" derives from the latin word for "popular". People mistake morals with ethics, and think that morals have to do with what is "right". In very conservative cultures, homosexuality is immoral, and this situation does indeed violate the morality clause only because it is something that most people believe is wrong.

Now, this doesn't mean we shouldn't try to change popular opinion however.
 

Texashiker

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Come on really? Why do you think gay people are attracted to the same sex?

I will let you in on a little dark secret of the gay community, something a lot of gay people do not want to talk about.

That little dark secret is a good number of gays were sexually abused as children.

As with battered women syndrome, for some reason gays are attracted to the sex that sexually abused them.

That does not go for all gays.

Why does a woman go back to a man who beats her? It is that same physiological problem that causes people to be attracted to the same sex that sexually abused them.

Got any gay friends? Especially gay men. Talk to them about it.
 
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TerryMathews

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I think the morality clause specifically spells out moral conditions you must uphold. A couple divorcing would be free to spell out their own set of morals.

The problem appears to be that the woman in question didnt read the contract she was signing.

Bingo.

The court didn't force her to accept that condition.
 

Hugo Drax

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Gay people wanting to live in Texas is like Jewish people wanting to move to Germany at the height of the Holocaust.

Makes no sense why Gay people want to live in Texas.
 

jhbball

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I will let you in on a little dark secret of the gay community, something a lot of gay people do not want to talk about.

That little dark secret is a good number of gays were sexually abused as children.

As with battered women syndrome, for some reason gays are attracted to the sex that sexually abused them.

That does not go for all gays.

Why does a woman go back to a man who beats her? It is that same physiological problem that causes people to be attracted to the same sex that sexually abused them.

Got any gay friends? Especially gay men. Talk to them about it.

LOL, you're a joke.
 

Oyeve

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In what way is their lifestyle not immoral?

It goes both ways.




We have morals and values, and that makes us a backwards state?

No, you have hate and fear of anything you dont understand, that makes you backwards, and stupid and an ahole.
 

Genx87

Lifer
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I will let you in on a little dark secret of the gay community, something a lot of gay people do not want to talk about.

That little dark secret is a good number of gays were sexually abused as children.

As with battered women syndrome, for some reason gays are attracted to the sex that sexually abused them.

That does not go for all gays.

Why does a woman go back to a man who beats her? It is that same physiological problem that causes people to be attracted to the same sex that sexually abused them.

Got any gay friends? Especially gay men. Talk to them about it.

Now you are venturing into whacko land. I have known plenty of gay people and been friends with plenty others. None of them showed signs of being abused as children. All held steady jobs, were educated, and productive members of society. Those qualities are not typically symptoms of being abused as a child.
 

SagaLore

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That does not go for all gays.

That does not go for all gays.

That does not go for all gays.

That does not go for all gays.

That does not go for all gays.



I guarantee more straight women are raped or molested than gay guys are gay because of any child abuse.

I guess that makes women who like sex immoral.

Oh wait, you likely believe that too.