tweakboy just pulled the trigger on 3 parts. CPU/RAM/Mobo

[MisterMac]

LoL why do u want socket 2011?

Those Extra threads are only good for running multi instances of Heavy threaded programs And encoding programs that take advantage of the extra threads.

Day to day use the 3770k is going to be the faster chip.

And all a 3820 is..

It is a 2600/2700k with locked multi that uses a Socket 2011 board which when it is all said and done would cost more then a 2700k build and a 3770k build.

You can clock 2700k/3770k to 5ghz on a 100$ board..

Example...

Except 99% of all bigger DAWs from cubase\sonar\protools\live are EXTREMELY thread and cache based.


As evident from any DAW benchmark from the Core2 smack to now.

A unlocked 3930k in the mid 4's will last him just as long as a q6600 has.


Which ANY of you benchmarking supposed guru's could find out from a Simple google search and have plenty of sources.



Infact a heavy workstation setup with a dual socket E5 Sandy - would probably last him well into the next decade.

Assuming the trends of slowing down processnodes and moar coares holds true.

 

[Puppies04]

I see it is business as usual, tweak answers questions he likes the look of and ignores anything else. Have you even considered the points IDC brought up in post #7?

Do yourself a favour and go fill out the sticky in the general hardware forum this thread this about a new rig with a few old parts not cpus and overclocking. Come back here when you have it built and you need advice as to why you nailed the chip when you put 1.8v through it.

 

[tweakboy]

Aio coolers are crap.

Im having a goodo exerpeince with them. thick rubberized tubes. Gives me better temps then a NON all in one solution. But also my tubes were long many feet of tubes lol,,, so this the pump has to just send water like 7 inches or something.

Anyhow most important is wht temp your room is at,... If its cold 60c then the liquid will get cold,,,,, if its warm then youll get higher temps...

 

[tweakboy]

I see it is business as usual, tweak answers questions he likes the look of and ignores anything else. Have you even considered the points IDC brought up in post #7?

Do yourself a favour and go fill out the sticky in the general hardware forum this thread this about a new rig with a few old parts not cpus and overclocking. Come back here when you have it built and you need advice as to why you nailed the chip when you put 1.8v through it.

Nah no 1.8v for me lol. But 1.45v is the most Ill go,

 

[Puppies04]

Nah no 1.8v for me lol. But 1.45v is the most Ill go,

As I said answering the bits you like. Now answer the rest of the post.

 

[sm625]

When I saw this thread, my first thought was "good thing you're not posting from CT, tweakboy".

 

[tweakboy]

Except 99% of all bigger DAWs from cubase\sonar\protools\live are EXTREMELY thread and cache based.


As evident from any DAW benchmark from the Core2 smack to now.

A unlocked 3930k in the mid 4's will last him just as long as a q6600 has.


Which ANY of you benchmarking supposed guru's could find out from a Simple google search and have plenty of sources.



Infact a heavy workstation setup with a dual socket E5 Sandy - would probably last him well into the next decade.

Assuming the trends of slowing down processnodes and moar coares holds true.

Thanks MrRock you rock!!!

 

[ShadowVVL]

Infact a heavy workstation setup with a dual socket E5 Sandy - would probably last him well into the next decade.

lol that is like $1200 for mobo and 2 e5s.

you know you want it tweek! you know!...oh just look at that mobo, without foaming out the mouth

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131861

updated the link

 

[Puppies04]

Except 99% of all bigger DAWs from cubase\sonar\protools\live are EXTREMELY thread and cache based.


As evident from any DAW benchmark from the Core2 smack to now.

A unlocked 3930k in the mid 4's will last him just as long as a q6600 has.


Which ANY of you benchmarking supposed guru's could find out from a Simple google search and have plenty of sources.



Infact a heavy workstation setup with a dual socket E5 Sandy - would probably last him well into the next decade.

Assuming the trends of slowing down processnodes and moar coares holds true.

The question isn't "will an unlocked 3930k last him as long as his q6600 has"

It is "is it worth the extra money to buy into a 2011 socket compared to buying an 1155 or AMD rig"

Also will the programs he uses utilise 32GB of RAM or would 16GB be more appropriate?

 

[hokies83]

3770ks 250$ over on Hard forum
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1733923

 

[tweakboy]

I use x64 bit multithreaded optimized for Win 8 app. Sonar X2 Producer

I need cores for what I do.

40 tracks all computer generatated and 80 plugins and a mastering suite .... thats gonna choke a 8 core,,, but 12core I got more room....... sheeeeeeeeeez no body does audio here if you do youll understand. ALso Im gonna get 64GB RAM thats why I choose Sabertooth 2011 Ill grab a 3820 and OC the bus , and get it to 4.6 I will be happy..........

 

[hokies83]

3820 is a slower 8 core then a 3770k?

 

[tweakboy]

Hmm hokoie interesting. I think clock for clock their the same no ?

 

[tweakboy]

WOW mr. mac you give me hope!!!!!!!!!!! thats sick OC 5Ghz on a 3820 wow....... must fly,,,,!!!!!!!! nice job.....

 

[hokies83]

Hmm hokoie interesting. I think clock for clock their the same no ?

No there not a 3820 is no more then a 2600k on a socket 2011 board.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=523

3820 has a 100mhz advantage and is losing.

By this it looks slower then a 2600k clock for clock eh?
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/287?vs=523

 

[tweakboy]

Thanks hokies for reply.

Heres the problem, I NEED a 2011 motherboard. Because of the quad channnel and 64GB RAM...... I feel buying a 3930 now then buying a Ive E later is a sidegrade.......

 

[hokies83]

It is not that huge of a diffrence unless...

"you plan on running more then 1 of these encoding programs at once"

Running one at a time the difference between the 3770k and the 3930k is mere seconds.

Heh Quad channel ram.. Just buy a 2400mhz kit for Ivy and Overclock it ....

 

[tweakboy]

Hokiez problem once again is I need 64GB RAM I need 8 dimms I need 2011 because Im going to upgrade to Ivy E when it comes out probably Q1 of 2014 I guess.

It sucks I would get the 3770k if it were 2011 , but I cant.. my options are limited to 3 processors... 3820 and 3930 hexa and 3960X hexa...... I cant afford 1k chip... the 3930 looks attractive but its almost twice the price of a 3820. I saw someone OC their 3820 to 4.6Ghz by moving the Bus up .......... since multi is locked.... with proper voltage, cant I do that. I just want sandy speed, but I need a 2011 for future I can buy a 6 core Ivy E

 

[tweakboy]

Im getting a sabertooth x79 so I have 3 choices, or can I put a sandy bridge CPU in a sabertooth x79 ????

if so Ill grab a sandy 2700k instead

 

[ShadowVVL]

x79 is LGA2011

sandy bridge is socket 1155! sandy bridge-E is 2011!

so 1155 SB wont work on a 2011! if it is SB-E with a E it is socket 2011!

If you are going with Socket 2011 then get a cpu that says socket 2011!

only chips that work in 2011 are 3820 3930k and 3960k!

 

[joshhedge]

tweak, you're aware a 3820 is only a 4 core processor? Right?

Also what's the fascination with hitting ridiculously high clock speeds, can degrade your data and cause instability where you would require it.

Edit: What is also the fascination of IB-E vs SB-E? Highly doubt there would be a huge or noticeable increase in processing power, anyone have information to prove otherwise?

 

[tweakboy]

tweak, you're aware a 3820 is only a 4 core processor? Right?

Also what's the fascination with hitting ridiculously high clock speeds, can degrade your data and cause instability where you would require it.

Edit: What is also the fascination of IB-E vs SB-E? Highly doubt there would be a huge or noticeable increase in processing power, anyone have information to prove otherwise?

I read its 4 cores 8 threads. it does have HT.

 

[tweakboy]

Im gonna enjoy it then sell it and buy a Ive E on same motherboard......... thats why I need 2011 that along with 64GB RAM and quad channel memory.... and the 4 extra threads might come in handy........

 

[Pilum]

I use x64 bit multithreaded optimized for Win 8 app. Sonar X2 Producer

I need cores for what I do.

40 tracks all computer generatated and 80 plugins and a mastering suite .... thats gonna choke a 8 core,,, but 12core I got more room.......

With your problems, I doubt that a 64-core machine would help to solve them. The first thing you should do is... learn to read. The documentation. Of your software.

Everything else will follow.

sheeeeeeeeeez no body does audio here if you do youll understand.

I do audio. That's why I think you're trolling. I simply refuse to believe that there's somebody who supposedly earns his living with music production who doesn't understand the very basics of DAW use. And freezing tracks has been a standard measure for a decade or so, because compute power has been insufficient since VST plugins were invented. And this is the very same reason why the concept of freezing tracks is explained in the "How to fix performance problems" of every DAW manual I've come across recently.

Try to understand what you're doing before you start throwing money at problems which don't exist.

 

[Idontcare]

Im gonna enjoy it then sell it and buy a Ive E on same motherboard......... thats why I need 2011 that along with 64GB RAM and quad channel memory.... and the 4 extra threads might come in handy........

tweakboy, which DAW software do you use, specifically?

Ideally you'd seek out some benchmarks so you know where your performance/dollar really falls.

You seems keen on an Intel rig and avoid any/all discussion regarding and AMD rig, but from the economics of the situation (you said you do this for a living) you really should entertain all options on the table until you have data for your application in hand such that you can drive a data-driven downselection decision.

I ended up with a bunch of Q6600's because I did that with my app of interest (Metatrader) and thanks to fellow AT members SlowSpyder and Peter Trend (who owned the PhI and PhII) I was able to determine that the Kentsfield microarchitecture was the best performance/dollar for my app.

^ you should want that kind of data for your specific app of interest before you plunk down your upgrade dollars considering how infrequently you upgrade. The wrong choice now is a choice you will live with regretting for another 5 yrs. Think about it.