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Lifer
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pcgeek11 said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...77740635e83_story.html?utm_term=.46827bd0cad9

Current and former U.S. officials said that that assertion is at odds with Kislyak’s accounts of conversations in two encounters during the campaign, one in April ahead of Trump’s first major foreign policy speech and another in July on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention.

Officials emphasized that the information contradicting Sessions comes from U.S. intelligence on Kislyak’s communications with the Kremlin, and they acknowledged that the Russian ambassador could have mischaracterized or exaggerated the nature of his interactions.

Sessions had a third meeting with Kislyak in his Senate office in September. Officials declined to say whether U.S. intelligence agencies intercepted any Russian communications describing the third encounter.
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You are coming around man. Don’t expect you to ever be a D but you are coming around
 
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pcgeek11 said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...77740635e83_story.html?utm_term=.46827bd0cad9

Current and former U.S. officials said that that assertion is at odds with Kislyak’s accounts of conversations in two encounters during the campaign, one in April ahead of Trump’s first major foreign policy speech and another in July on the sidelines of the Republican National Convention.

Officials emphasized that the information contradicting Sessions comes from U.S. intelligence on Kislyak’s communications with the Kremlin, and they acknowledged that the Russian ambassador could have mischaracterized or exaggerated the nature of his interactions.

Sessions had a third meeting with Kislyak in his Senate office in September. Officials declined to say whether U.S. intelligence agencies intercepted any Russian communications describing the third encounter.
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It doesn't matter how either of them characterized the meeting in Sessions' office. The fact that it occurred means Sessions lied. It's really just that simple.
 
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Jhhnn said:
It doesn't matter how either of them characterized the meeting in Sessions' office. The fact that it occurred means Sessions lied. It's really just that simple.
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No, it isn't just that simple. Kislyak has met with many many senators and congressmen through the years. Sessions says his meeting was as a Senator. If I have to choose one of them to believe I think I'll stick with the American Citizen.

As many have stated context does matter.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
No, it isn't just that simple. Kislyak has met with many many senators and congressmen through the years. Sessions says his meeting was as a Senator. If I have to choose one of them to believe I think I'll stick with the American Citizen.

As many have stated context does matter.
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If the question is "have you met with any russian goverment officials" what does context have anything to do with it?

it is a simple fucking question.. if it was part of his job it is a yes... it is not that difficult


Picture of Sessions and Kislyak:

https://twitter.com/kerryeleveld/st...s-russian-ambassador-together-mayflower-hotel

Text of Sessions senate confirmation:

nor do I recall any conversations, with any Russian officials at the Mayflower hotel.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/full-text-jeff-session-trump-russia-testimony-239503
 
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pcgeek11 said:
No, it isn't just that simple. Kislyak has met with many many senators and congressmen through the years. Sessions says his meeting was as a Senator. If I have to choose one of them to believe I think I'll stick with the American Citizen.

As many have stated context does matter.
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I don't have a problem with the meeting, just with Sessions lying about it. Characterization of the discussion is immaterial. His later qualification, that he did have contact but it wasn't about the campaign is quite lame. Had he been a democratic nominee the Senate would have called for his head on a plate, rightfully so.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
No, it isn't just that simple. Kislyak has met with many many senators and congressmen through the years. Sessions says his meeting was as a Senator. If I have to choose one of them to believe I think I'll stick with the American Citizen.

As many have stated context does matter.
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Why haven't you replied to my post? Do you agree that the context differs? What about him recusing himself in the Russia probe? Or the FBI investigating him for perjury?
 
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interchange said:
"Sessions told the House Judiciary Committee that he now recalls a meeting last year with then-candidate Trump where a campaign adviser said he had connections with Moscow and could help arrange a Trump meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin."

That sounds nothing like the context you are describing.
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It is nothing like I am describing. That was a campaign advisor saying he could arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin.

Did he arrange a meeting. I don't think so.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
It is nothing like I am describing. That was a campaign advisor saying he could arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin.

Did he arrange a meeting. I don't think so.
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Looks like he, and other arranged multiple meetings with high level Russian agents instead so...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_campaign–Russian_meetings

Give it up already. Your "nothing burger" has turned into this:

biggest-burger-1.jpg
 
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pcgeek11 said:
It is nothing like I am describing. That was a campaign advisor saying he could arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin.

Did he arrange a meeting. I don't think so.
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Gee I wonder if Sessions testified about knowledge of other campaign members having contact with Russians...
 
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Amused said:
Looks like he, and other arranged multiple meetings with high level Russian agents instead so...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_campaign–Russian_meetings

Give it up already. Your "nothing burger" has turned into this:
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interchange said:
Gee I wonder if Sessions testified about knowledge of other campaign members having contact with Russians...
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There is nothing wrong or illegal about "having contact" with Russians.

Context is the key and so far nothing has been found.

Sessions recused himself to appease the left.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
There is nothing wrong or illegal about "having contact" with Russians.

Context is the key and so far nothing has been found.

Sessions recused himself to appease the left.
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He sure has a lot of memory lapses about those meetings. That should be very concerning, no?
 
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Amused said:
Looks like he, and other arranged multiple meetings with high level Russian agents instead so...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_campaign–Russian_meetings

Give it up already. Your "nothing burger" has turned into this:

biggest-burger-1.jpg
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Duh, how do you think they turn those into nothingburgers, by gobbling them down! But the number and size of them is going to lead to coronary problems, which is why they continue to willfully ignore it, because it'd probably trigger cardiac arrest for them.
 
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ivwshane said:
It is illegal to lie to Congress and you continue to ignore that.

Keep carrying that water.
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Our chief law enforcement officer volunteered a lie in his confirmation hearing before the Senate & they let him slide.

So much for GOP integrity.
 
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pcgeek11 said:
There is nothing wrong or illegal about "having contact" with Russians.

Context is the key and so far nothing has been found.

Sessions recused himself to appease the left.
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Yeah... Those contacts themselves are not illegal. But you know testifying before Congress that you had no knowledge about any such meetings in a Congressional probe looking into the possibility of conspiracy between the Trump team and Russia when such happenings did occur is pretty significant, no? Of course, it was just his faulty memory. Notice how he has suddenly remembered contacts from himself and team members after incontrovertible proof of his false testimony has been provided. He hasn't suddenly recalled any other pieces of information that I know of. But you know. Context.
 
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Lifer
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ivwshane said:
It is illegal to lie to Congress and you continue to ignore that.

Keep carrying that water.
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Jhhnn said:
Our chief law enforcement officer volunteered a lie in his confirmation hearing before the Senate & they let him slide.

So much for GOP integrity.
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interchange said:
Yeah... Those contacts themselves are not illegal. But you know testifying before Congress that you had no knowledge about any such meetings in a Congressional probe looking into the possibility of conspiracy between the Trump team and Russia when such happenings did occur is pretty significant, no? Of course, it was just his faulty memory. Notice how he has suddenly remembered contacts from himself and team members after incontrovertible proof of his false testimony has been provided. He hasn't suddenly recalled any other pieces of information that I know of. But you know. Context.
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Well we can lock him up in a cell with Hillary, Comey, and Holder.
 
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