Trump: terminate the US Constitution election rules and reinstate me to office

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fskimospy

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I've said before that the right's version of patriotism is about flags and symbols, which to them is really about tribalism (nationalism). Not about anything of substance. Certainly not democracy. "Freedom" is just a nice sounding word to them. Anyway, the Constitution is just another symbol to them, like the flag. What's actually in it is pretty much irrelevant. Which is why they never actually read it. Including the ones who carry it around in their pockets, for show.
It is tribalism. Pure and simple.
 
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HomerJS

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I agree he's desperate to avoid prosecution. But what does he think this kind of statement will accomplish? He isn't going to be reinstated. He isn't going to avoid prosecution over the records. I mean, we just went through a midterm where voters rejected his denialist candidates, and he says this right before the GA runoff. Walker should be asked about this, but he purportedly won't allow reporters within 20 feet of him.

It proves the Republican Party is officially against the Constitution sine Trump
Is head of the party
 
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Leeea

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Are you sure you know what he meant by that post? I'm not entirely sure I know who he is casting as intolerant of opposing views there.
It is a both side-ism post.

But what is good about it, is it paints Moony with the same brush with his absolutism.

In short, he is calling everyone evil, including himself, in a demonstration of nihilism.

In the context of his post, he is correct.
 

Dave_5k

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Hmm requires 2/3rds of both houses and 3/4 of the states to ratify it or for 33 states (2/3) to call for a constitutional convention.
Or simply enough of the military (which has a large core that strongly supports Trump, even today) as armed insurrectionists, for round 2 of Trump's hostile takeover of the US
 
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Moonbeam

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You are a person in serious need of some introspection.
Perhaps you feel such a charge is morally valid and appropriately directed at me because you heard something in what I said that seemed to you to be evil. My post was intended to give my opinion as to why the Constitution doesn't matter to so many Republicans. They believe they are in touch with a higher level of morality than contained in it, in my opinion. I described that thought process.

My point also implies that no matter how bad the names you throw at them that will just entrench them in their position. Leading people astray is the work of the devil, in other words liberals,. My answer to them is to simply point out what they are really doing.

So here we are talking Trumpers but in other contexts, liberals will do the same.
 
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cytg111

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Yea, this is it, my takeaway here is that he is going to do *whatever*, he is gonna call on Russia, China, The Lizard People, everyone to help him subvert the coming elections… he is already going down and cornered, here comes one last swing. Its interesting, I just saw an interview with Nick and Ye where Ye storms out the room cause the host wont say “The Jews” (this is post dinner with Trump) and Nick continues to argue that you should elect Trump once last time and then stop having elections all together.
Its almost like its coordinated.
 

pmv

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Wow. He's getting ever more extreme in his crackpottery.

Trump's rantings really merit a deeper analysis than I'm capable of. Is it about fear of prosecution and/or financial ruin, or is it because of the sheer scale of his psychological dysfunction, i.e. that his narcissism means he just can't allow himself to accept that he was voted out because he wasn't popular enough to win the election?

Or should it be interpreted socio-politically, rather than in terms of the psychology of one individual? Does it represent the crisis of an entire demographic and class rather than one guy? Guess that will become apparent in 2024.
 

ivwshane

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Wow. He's getting ever more extreme in his crackpottery.

Trump's rantings really merit a deeper analysis than I'm capable of. Is it about fear of prosecution and/or financial ruin, or is it because of the sheer scale of his psychological dysfunction, i.e. that his narcissism means he just can't allow himself to accept that he was voted out because he wasn't popular enough to win the election?

Or should it be interpreted socio-politically, rather than in terms of the psychology of one individual? Does it represent the crisis of an entire demographic and class rather than one guy? Guess that will become apparent in 2024.

It’s definitely psychological. Right now he feels he’s being attacked and losing and for a narcissist that is really bad for them and he’ll burn everything down if he has to. This is a dark place for trump and I only hope that his followers don’t become more radicalized and instead distance themselves from him.
 

cytg111

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It’s definitely psychological. Right now he feels he’s being attacked and losing and for a narcissist that is really bad for them and he’ll burn everything down if he has to. This is a dark place for trump and I only hope that his followers don’t become more radicalized and instead distance themselves from him.
Its always been about Trump.
 

Ajay

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Well, damn. I guess I have been terribly remiss since the election in that I have seen neither hide nor hair of that MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION he's shouting about.

I will go WAY out on a limb here and predict that we will NOT be terminating all election rules, regulations, and articles, ESPECIALLY those found in the Constitution. I could be wrong, but...
You're on the wrong forum. But, for the love of God, please stay here.
 
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sportage

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Trump's latest Truth Social rant says we need to terminate all election rules, including those in the US Constitution, to overturn the 2020 election and reinstate him.

And why not? The US Constitution IS NOT a friend of those who seek a dictatorship. First, Trump would nullify the US Constitution, and second just do away with those pesky elections and then anoint Donald Trump as president. Face it, this is what they really want. With Donald Trump's ego, he can not afford to be "elected" into office, Trump needs to be "anointed" into office.

Look at it this way....
Just imagine someone suggesting to Vladimir Putin that he toss away their system of dictatorship and replace that with the US Constitution? You think Vladimir would go for THAT? Putin would laugh his ass off, then execute the messenger. You think Donald Trump would go for THAT if he were dictator?

Regardless.... people will still vote for Donald Trump. Sad but true. Todays patriot supports government overthrow and insurrection, and... dictatorships if that means THEY get what they want.
But despite all the Trump horrors and as incredible as it may seem, Donald Trump is being allowed to run for president, again.
We shall see....
 

Moonbeam

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It’s definitely psychological. Right now he feels he’s being attacked and losing and for a narcissist that is really bad for them and he’ll burn everything down if he has to. This is a dark place for trump and I only hope that his followers don’t become more radicalized and instead distance themselves from him.
I think so too. What I see is that the form of narcissism Trump has is undergirded by vicious self hate created by his sick father, and those are the feelings he fears to re-experience. The bottom line for him and those with high levels of trauma, is CONTROL. They are impelled to control the narrative and with violence of force if necessary, but because of that inner cowardice, the fear of remembering, they need an army of lemmings to act in their behalf.

He also needs a constant state of war and victory by denial to feel alive which makes him dangerous to all around him. Everything and everybody is tinder for the next dumpster fire diversion some new stress on his ego will create.
 

UNCjigga

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Get rid of the Constitution and install a fascist dictator? Sadly, probably 90% of his followers believe it’s what the white Founding Fathers would want too.
 
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Moonbeam

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So much for the supposed MAGA love of the Constitution.
Pathological cunning always winds up infiltrating or adopting symbols of authority and commonly held symbols that confer respect to hide their real intent. This is made possible because having had ones self respect destroyed as children and replaced by self contempt, we seek to identify with externals to supply that sense of self worth vicariously by membership. Cultism and tribalism are the result, fine clothes to hide a sense of worthlessness.
 

hal2kilo

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I agree he's desperate to avoid prosecution. But what does he think this kind of statement will accomplish? He isn't going to be reinstated. He isn't going to avoid prosecution over the records. I mean, we just went through a midterm where voters rejected his denialist candidates, and he says this right before the GA runoff. Walker should be asked about this, but he purportedly won't allow reporters within 20 feet of him.
Seems he willing to create Jan. 6 all over the country to keep from going to jail. What is it going to do to the country? He could give a flying F. Republicans yea, you, some of you posting here, why would you want someone to lead a country he doesn't even believe in?
 

Leeea

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This did not even make the news in the conservative news outlets as far as I can tell.

Republicans and conservatives just do not care about the constitution from what I can tell.
 
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pmv

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Saw Trumps rant a little whole ago. He doesn't seem to have much knowledge of, or respect for, the constitution.

Can't say I have a lot of respect for your Constitution. Not least because it's produced Trump, and assisted him in becoming President. The fact that it led to his Presidency seems to be a sign that there's something wrong with it.