Trump Strategist Steve Bannon Says Media Should ‘Keep Its Mouth Shut’

[MongGrel]

Elaborate pls. Have I ever said that a government official saying "Shut up" is equivalent to denial of freedom of speech/press? Pretty sure I haven't. My reasoning is simple and consistent: an official with no direct political power of his own cannot infringe on anyone's free speech, by definition. Any attempt for him to do so (which he has not yet made regardless) would be done with zero authority until backed by someone with actual political power.

You mean like his boss man Trump who he was referring to when he said the press should shut up about ?

In an official spokesperson position ? Go go Goebbel power.

You have no reasoning in that case.

 

[Jhhnn]

I agree, it is nothing like Weimar Germany, which has always bothered me that the Orangeman campaigned on a fantasy that it was exactly Weimar Germany and convinced enough idiots that it very much was Weimar Germany. and that only he, HE ALONE could save them from this burning, crumbling, desperate hellhole of a shitty country

Were you not paying attention, at all?

You're too close to right for comfort.

Time and fucking time again we pointed out to you drooling idiots that this was exactly Trump's messaging, this was exactly his imaging, and the fools continued to slurp it up like desperate little puppies starving for mommy's milk. If you didn't see Mussolini/Franko/1920s-30s national socialist messaging throughout the Strumpf campaign and especially at his RNC fiasco, then you are fucking blind.

Clearly, you are the one not paying attention to history.

Your tone drives the beguiled behind their emotional barricades. You drive the Trumpian wedge deeper.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Quote exactly where he called for suppression, and please explain in detail the full extent of Bannon's political power.

Love that bar your setting that you wont even set for your own beliefs. Trump's officials are mirroring Trump, and acting like Bannon has no influence is brain dead.

 

[HomerJS]

Who is being carted off?

The truth

 

[cliftonite]

What is shocking to me is that even Amused, who if I remember correctly was a staunch republican in the past finds faults with Trump.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You mean like his boss man Trump who he was referring to when he said the press should shut up about ?

In an official spokesperson position ? Go go Goebbel power.

You have no reasoning in that case.

In a telephone interview, not speaking from any official pulpit, he said

“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while”

Which, depending on the context (the full transcript of the interview is not available as far as I can tell), could just as easily mean "Keep your mouth shut if you don't want to keep embarrassing yourself". Even if intended more as a "I don't like you and I want you to shut up", all it means is that a guy doesn't like something. But ascribe all the horror you like to it, I enjoy watching you and others on this forum piss themselves in terror.

Love that bar your setting that you wont even set for your own beliefs. Trump's officials are mirroring Trump, and acting like Bannon has no influence is brain dead.

What do you think are my beliefs? Are you saying Trump is copying Bannon or Bannon is copying Trump or both? Did you say anything in this post? I don't think so.

 

[MongGrel]

In a telephone interview, not speaking from any official pulpit, he said

“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while”

Which, depending on the context (the full transcript of the interview is not available as far as I can tell), could just as easily mean "Keep your mouth shut if you don't want to keep embarrassing yourself". Even if intended more as a "I don't like you and I want you to shut up", all it means is that a guy doesn't like something. But ascribe all the horror you like to it, I enjoy watching you and others on this forum piss themselves in terror.



What do you think are my beliefs? Are you saying Trump is copying Bannon or Bannon is copying Trump or both? Did you say anything in this post? I don't think so.

You should upgrade your troll game someday.

You know perfectly well the current administration is a complete mess.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You should upgrade your troll game someday.

You know perfectly well the current administration is a complete mess.

You should realize that just because you disagree with a person on something doesn't mean you disagree with them on everything. Your posts have a reactionary tinge common among many of the sad old shitlibs on this forum, probably indicating a common loss of eyesight and/or dementia among your kind.

 

[sandorski]

In a telephone interview, not speaking from any official pulpit, he said

“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while”

Which, depending on the context (the full transcript of the interview is not available as far as I can tell), could just as easily mean "Keep your mouth shut if you don't want to keep embarrassing yourself". Even if intended more as a "I don't like you and I want you to shut up", all it means is that a guy doesn't like something. But ascribe all the horror you like to it, I enjoy watching you and others on this forum piss themselves in terror.



What do you think are my beliefs? Are you saying Trump is copying Bannon or Bannon is copying Trump or both? Did you say anything in this post? I don't think so.

The only thing they need to be embarrassed about is that Trump is their President.

 

[MongGrel]

You should realize that just because you disagree with a person on something doesn't mean you disagree with them on everything. Your posts have a reactionary tinge common among many of the sad old shitlibs on this forum, probably indicating a common loss of eyesight and/or dementia among your kind.

Continued lack of content, it appears.

You're pivoting again.

I won't bother responding again in this thread tonite as I'm off topic, and you're just lurking.

 

[bshole]

Advocating government suppression of freedom of the press? Where did you get that drivel? He's saying that most of the media is hard core lefty liars, heavily biased and pretty much democratic propaganda. That's all spot on correct. There's no mention of anything whatsoever to do with "silencing" anyone or touching the freedom of the press no matter how much most of them lie.

I think the press is more scandal/ratings driven than ideologically drivel. That is where the profits are.

That being said, Trump last week said:

Donald Trump's latest threat against the media came Friday at a rally in Texas. Once elected president, Trump promised, he will "open up" federal libel laws to make it easier to sue news outlets like The Washington Post and New York Times — a pronouncement to which journalists reacted in predictable horror.

I see that as an attempt to silence media. If Fox News/Breitbar/Limbaugh were sued on a daily basis for the fountain of lies they propagate, how long do you think they would remain in business? Remember that attacking the free press is a knife that cuts two ways and kills our democratic way of life.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...es-how-he-could-do-it/?utm_term=.edee64c464f3

 

[kage69]

Democrats have never told Fox News to give up their constitutional rights. Any news org deserves to be criticized when they are wrong or intently lie.

Did you feel dirty calling Fox "a news org"?

You are correct though. More projection by the Dump fluffers, add it to the pile! The talking heads of Fox were the ones telling young women to stay home and not vote because they don't understand the issues.

 

[Grooveriding]

Bannon is Trump's Goebbels

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

 

[PokerGuy]

And the media is full of crap for reporting it, right?
But when they were reporting on Clinton and all the email crap, well that was when they were being honest, right?

No, the media is not full of crap for reporting Trump's lies. I'm fine with that. The problem is with the media lying and pushing their biased slant on everything. They are no better or more believable than Trump. Most of the media is just a camouflaged democratic propaganda machine. They were exposed like never before during this election cycle and now they are lashing out.

Trump is doing everything in his own power to discredit himself. Have you seen the sh*t he says and does? I'm sure you'll continue to twist yourself into a human pretzel though to ignore the truth. To you, the guy with the best words is just being misunderstood and twisted by the lying media

I fully agree that Trump says plenty of things to discredit himself. So what? That has nothing to do with whether the media are mostly lying dirtbag democrat propagandists. Calling the media out for their lies and bias is perfectly fine, just like calling Trump out on lies is fine as well.

Exactly, anyone who says so much crap and flip flops as much as trump would be ridiculed by the mainstream media as much as Trump.

The problem isn't with the media calling him out on his lies, the problem is with the supposedly unbiased media having been shown to be complete shills for the DNC/illary campaign and full of lies. Bannon and Trump calling the media what they are is perfectly appropriate.

Would you have been of the same opinion if a senior Obama administration official had told a right wing media outlet to 'keep its mouth shut'? Like Breitbart, for example?

First, plenty of obummer administration officials took shots at conservative media. In fact, they've gone considerably further because with partners like google and facebook they can simply decree that anyone who doesn't agree with their narrative is "fake news" and effectively silenced. If government tries to actually silence the press, I'd have a big problem with it, but that's not at all what happened here. There was no attempt to silence anything or anyone, Bannon just told them the truth.

Yet for some mentally challenged reason when the press points out his BS you go off about the "lefty media" and its lies.

Wrong. Why do you lefties have such a hard time with this simple concept? There is no problem with the media reporting on Trump's lies and BS. That's part of their job. The problem is with the lefty media pushing their own lies and agenda. You guys seem to conflate the two.

No you are wrong. He said that calling out lying dirtbags for being lying dirtbags is wrong. A totally different situation.

Honestly I can't believe anyone is either naive enough or partisan enough to justify a call by a top tier White House official for suppression of the freedom of the press and freedom of speech. Might as well use the Constitution as toilet paper.

Down goes the strawman! There was no supression of speech or freedom of the press in any way shape or form. Telling the liars in the media they should shut up and listen now that they've been exposed and humiliated is perfectly appropriate. They are also well within their rights to completely ignore what he said and continue to lie and smear. See how that works? He's entitled to his opinion, and their rights are not being infringed in any way.

So it is like this?
WH says something
Press listens, raise question.
WH says you press shutup?

No, it's more like this:
WH says "ABC"
Media says "White house said XYZ!! Outrage!"
WH says "media are a bunch of liars, should shut up and listen once in a while"
Media "WH is attacking our freedom!! Outrage!"

Its a little different when the White House advocates against the 1st amendment and freedom of the press

No such thing happened. With lies like that, you should have a job in media waiting for you!

The educated. The poor. The brown skins. The secular. The leaders. The less-than-8's (sorry, AT!) Then everyone else. Are you paying attention?

All those people are getting "carted off". Wow, that's an explosive news story, got some links?

What is shocking to me is that even Amused, who if I remember correctly was a staunch republican in the past finds faults with Trump.

Smart people don't base their opinion on a particular topic on what the party line is. If Amused thinks this is an outrage, I disagree with him but that's perfectly fine.

 

[MongGrel]

Next up ...

Sen. Franken asks AT&T to prove Time Warner merger is good for customers

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...rner-merger-is-good-for-customers/?comments=1

 

[K1052]

Steve Bannon is against the press that isn't slobbering all over Trump's tiny limp penis? I did nazi that coming.

 

[bshole]

First, plenty of obummer administration officials took shots at conservative media. In fact, they've gone considerably further because with partners like google and facebook they can simply decree that anyone who doesn't agree with their narrative is "fake news" and effectively silenced. If government tries to actually silence the press, I'd have a big problem with it, but that's not at all what happened here. There was no attempt to silence anything or anyone, Bannon just told them the truth.
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I presented a link above showing that Trump in the last week has stated that he will "open up" federal libel laws to make it easier to sue news outlets like The Washington Post and New York Times.

That is attempting to silence the media. Are you going to spin this as not an attack on the free press or are you going to condemn Trump's statement? If you are having difficulties with the concept, would you have been upset if Obama had opened up libel laws so that Fox News could be sued for their lies?

 

[bshole]

Next up ...

Sen. Franken asks AT&T to prove Time Warner merger is good for customers

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...rner-merger-is-good-for-customers/?comments=1

I can understand why Republican leaders that are owned by corporate America would support this. I can't for the life of me understand why Republican voters would support this. Do they like higher bills and poorer service? This combined with Net Neutrality will go a long way towards sending our bills into the stratosphere. Let the rape begin I guess

 

[PokerGuy]

I presented a link above showing that Trump in the last week has stated that he will "open up" federal libel laws to make it easier to sue news outlets like The Washington Post and New York Times.

That is attempting to silence the media. Are you going to spin this as not an attack on the free press or are you going to condemn Trump's statement? If you are having difficulties with the concept, would you have been upset if Obama had opened up libel laws so that Fox News could be sued for their lies?

Just to be very clear, I consider those statements by Trump to be extremely stupid bluster. If there was any attempt to actually change the libel laws to make it easier for politicians to silence critics in any way, I'd be the first to say that's BS and should not be allowed.

 

[MongGrel]

Just to be very clear, I consider those statements by Trump to be extremely stupid bluster. If there was any attempt to actually change the libel laws to make it easier for politicians to silence critics in any way, I'd be the first to say that's BS and should not be allowed.

You still do not seem to get it.

And I doubt you would.

 

[PokerGuy]

You still do not seem to get it.

And I doubt you would.

Get what? Go ahead and explain

 

[brycejones]

Get what? Go ahead and explain

Where in the thread about what the trump admin says and you have just whined about the lefty media?

 

[feralkid]

Moe said it best

I thought it was from Mr. Peabody?

 

[PokerGuy]

Where in the thread about what the trump admin says and you have just whined about the lefty media?

I know thinking and logic are not your strong suits, but try to follow along: the thread title is "Trump strategist Steve Bannon says media should 'keep its mouth shut'. People in the thread are outraged that the media is somehow being silenced or that freedom of the press is attacked when clearly neither one of those happened. I merely pointed out that Bannon calling the press what they are and telling them they should shut up and listen once in a while is perfectly fine.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I thought it was from Mr. Peabody?

Pretty sure Moe said it before Peabody.