Trump stops Ford plant from shutting down

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Accord99

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http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-kentucky-plant-trump-tweet-2016-11
Ford's KY plant is not going to MX and it is one of several plants that produce the Escape.
The real question is not the plant, the key question is now that Louisville is still building the MKC in the future, where does the extra production of Escapes come from? Will it be done at the same Mexican plant that was slated to produce the future MKC, or will Ford increase production/overtime at Lousiville since it already produces the Escapes for the NA market.
 

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http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-kentucky-plant-trump-tweet-2016-11
Ford's KY plant is not going to MX and it is one of several plants that produce the Escape.

They're moving Focus production to Mexico & modernizing the plant to make pickups.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/b...ictory-by-trump-has-no-effect-on-us-jobs.html

What we really have is Trumpian bullshit. Bill Ford is just a lot more diplomatic-

“Look, we are everything he should be celebrating about this country,” Mr. Ford said, noting that the company makes more cars and trucks in United States plants than any of its rivals and that it was investing in its American operations and adding jobs.

“He knows all that,” Mr. Ford said of Mr. Trump at the time. “I can’t control what he says.”

I wonder how many people Donald chumped into believing he's saving jobs before he's sworn in... He's a Strong Leader!

I think it'll be like a four year long episode of the Twilight Zone.
 

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Gentlemen I understand the republican business owner mindset and Ford has already publicly stated with the UAW's blessings that they are moving all small car production to MX. They have no choice when companies like Kia assault us with new 12K cars but Trump wants his polarized supporters to believe that he has done something for them. The market has spoken and Ford will do what is in their best interest as a company.

If I were one of the business unit managers and had evaluated the different costing I would want to produce for the least amount of cost as well. When the economy tanks again and Ford decides against upgrading to expand their truck lines, they just laid off last month because of reduced sales, you can see where this is going. The good old days of manufacturing in this country are never coming back and I know it which is why I am recycling right now to escape it. There are foreign investment groups keeping a close watch on domestic manufacturers waiting for them to tank so they can acquire their assets for pennies on the dollar. I did a research paper on business law several months ago and discovered them. When they reopen they are non-union employers with a lower wage scale and this is the new reality that uneducated people will be facing which will only grow stronger. Watch the paper industry as they continue to merge in an attempt to stave off overseas competitors.
 
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Sunburn74

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Just because they have shitty attitudes doesn't mean one looks good on you.

We're all Americans & we're all in it together. I, for one, don't begrudge people whatever the govt can do for them-

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...kentucky-worries-mount-over-medicaid-cutbacks

The job creators got nothin' for 'em.
That story is so sad. Poor people literally voting for stuff that will directly lead to their deaths based on the rantings of a demagogue. Truth is stranger than fiction.
 
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Gentlemen I understand the republican business owner mindset and Ford has already publicly stated with the UAW's blessings that they are moving all small car production to MX. They have no choice when companies like Kia assault us with new 12K cars but Trump wants his shaved apes to believe that he has done something for them. The market has spoken and Ford will do what is in their best interest as a company.

If I were one of the business unit managers and had evaluated the different costing I would want to produce for the least amount of cost as well. When the economy tanks again and Ford decides against upgrading to expand their truck lines, they just laid off last month because of reduced sales, you can see where this is going. The good old days of manufacturing in this country are never coming back and I know it which is why I am recycling right now to escape it. There are foreign investment groups keeping a close watch on domestic manufacturers waiting for them to tank so they can acquire their assets for pennies on the dollar. I did a research paper on business law several months ago and discovered them. When they reopen they are non-union employers with a lower wage scale and this is the new reality that uneducated people will be facing which will only grow stronger. Watch the paper industry as they continue to merge in an attempt to stave off overseas competitors.

Seriously, you use a full blown racist term like that ? GTFO.
 

agent00f

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I've seen Trump's core supporters and they aren't college educated so when their jobs evaporate I wonder if they'll continue to support him?

That's where Bannon's trillion dollar pork comes in. He's going to pay off loyal supporters, starting with the rust belt. Not a coincidence Ford sees this coming and want in.

This is how these despot types operate, as seen around the world. Just look at russia, lol. Americans are just hella naive to the game.
 

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That's where Bannon's trillion dollar pork comes in. He's going to pay off loyal supporters, starting with the rust belt. Not a coincidence Ford sees this coming and want in.
I believe that I might have found one of their secret pork barrel spending meetings so enjoy.:eek:
 

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Funny how phony liberals claim to defend unions, want 15 dollar an hour wages and benefits for uneducated burger flippers, want employers to give maternity leave, vacations, some sort of retirement benefits, and the Liberal version of trickle down called "Basic Income" you know money for pretty much doing nothing but these same phonies will then turn around and buy their 12K Kias and point the finger at "uneducated manufacturing deplorables" and tell them they are overpaid because the Mexican will do it for 5 dollars an hour.

Make all these overseas companies follow the same labor, environmental, and safety rules that liberals like to preach as workers rights when it comes to domestic companies, and then we can see if their have the ability to compete fairly.

http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/...s-south-korea-among-worlds-worst-for-workers/

Labor Group Ranks South Korea Among World’s Worst for Workers

Is South Korea one of the world’s worst countries for workers’ rights?

A recent report from the International Trade Union Confederation ranked Korea below most of 139 countries surveyed in terms of workers’ rights, based on submissions from local labor unions. Korea was assigned the lowest rating of 5, defined as a country that has no guarantee of rights.

“While legislation may spell out certain rights, workers have effectively no access to these rights and are therefore exposed to autocratic regimes and unfair labor practices,” is the ITUC’s general description of a category 5 country.

Hey look at the bright side, you can have your cheap Kias and have your conscience clear because they aren't violating any rules or regulations in the good old USA.
 

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Make all these overseas companies follow the same labor, environmental, and safety rules that liberals like to preach as workers rights when it comes to domestic companies, and then we can see if their have the ability to compete fairly.
Every single piece of worker protection legislation has come forth from Democrats who began instituting these protections which began with the Wagner Act of 1935 which is also known as the National Labor Relations Act of 1935 put forth by Democratic Senator Robert Wagner, an immigrant from Germany.

I will agree with you in that nobody should be paid $15/hour to flip burgers or to perform any other unskilled labor. I will say that historically republican big business owners are the reason that this country experienced the Industrial Revolution where their human meat philosophy of chewing up workers needed to be legislated out. Ford Motor Company was one of the great offenders with their "Service Department" and forced their way into the workers homes to reeducate them into seeing it the company way in return for a slightly higher daily wage. They also strong armed labor movement leaders and were notorious for many illegal acts against them with the help of the federal government. This is the America that Trump wants to take us back to and it will be great for rich business owners like him to be able to do anything as they please. If you work for a living and voted for this you deserve what you are about to receive and should've paid better attention while you were in school. Even middle and high school civics, history and economics classes teach the most basic elements of this principle.
 
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You're just angry because some of your workers left the plantation and voted for Republicans. You figured once the Democrats bought them that they'd always be owned.
 

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You're just angry because some of your workers left the plantation and voted for Republicans. You figured once the Democrats bought them that they'd always be owned.

That's why I agree the blue areas should stop subsidizing the red ones. Poor return on investment.
 

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That's why I agree the blue areas should stop subsidizing the red ones. Poor return on investment.
I agree, time to pull the plug on farm subsidies and let them run their businesses like everyone else including buying insurance to protect against losses.
 

Jhhnn

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Johhhnnnn said the MKC was going to continue to be made in Kentucky at the expense of some Escapes being made in Mexico. I know the plant was never going to go to Mexico but the MKC production line likely was according to Ford.

If you actually read links, which seems unlikely, you'll find that the Escape & the MKC share the same basic platform. The difference is in how they're fitted out & accessorized. Either way, production at the Kentucky plant will be going full blast. No jobs were saved, no matter what Donald claims. It's bullshit. You know it is.

Who you gonna believe? Bill Ford or the lying Donald?
 

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If you actually read links, which seems unlikely, you'll find that the Escape & the MKC share the same basic platform. The difference is in how they're fitted out & accessorized. Either way, production at the Kentucky plant will be going full blast. No jobs were saved, no matter what Donald claims. It's bullshit. You know it is.

Who you gonna believe? Bill Ford or the lying Donald?
Are you backtracking on your claim that Escapes are going to be made in Mexico then? I read the links and I couldn't find any information that verified your assertion, which is why I asked.
 

Jhhnn

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Are you backtracking on your claim that Escapes are going to be made in Mexico then? I read the links and I couldn't find any information that verified your assertion, which is why I asked.

I may have been mistaken. It's immaterial, anyway, as Trump's assertions are just his usual bullshit.