Trump requests additional collusion

[ElFenix]

Totes not illegal in kind campaign contributions

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509531523065602062

 

[Why_Me]

MERRICK
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GARLAND

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ANYBODY HOME?

Merrick is busy going after concerned parents that frequent school board meetings. Those parents are probably Putin puppets. lolz

 

[IronWing]

Merrick is busy going after concerned parents that frequent school board meetings. Those parents are probably Putin puppets. lolz

<plonk> That was quick.

 

[Why_Me]

But then it will be fake news

Kind of like Hunter's laptop was ... oh wait ...

 

[dawp]

Kind of like Hunter's laptop was ... oh wait ...

wwybywb

 

[Why_Me]

Maybe Putin can also release Trumps dealings with oligarchs while at it.

Lest we forget the ex mayor of Moscow (and close friend of Putin) wife gave Hunter Biden $3.5 million dollars for ... services rendered?

Feb. 2014 - Maidan Revolution (US funded coup of a democratically elected President)
March 2014 - John Kerry offers Ukraine $1B
March 14 - Biden gets Ukraine portfolio
April 2014 - D. Archer (Hunter’s biz partner w/John Kerry’s stepson (Kerry’s top ‘04 fundraiser) visits Joe in White House
April 2014 - Joe visits Ukraine
April 2014 - Archer gets Burisma deal
May 2014 - Hunter gets Burisma deal
2015 - Joe Biden threatens to withhold $1 billion of said aid money if Ukraine doesn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma

 

[Meghan54]

Lest we forget the ex mayor of Moscow (and close friend of Putin) wife gave Hunter Biden $3.5 million dollars for ... services rendered?

Feb. 2014 - Maidan Revolution (US funded coup of a democratically elected President)
March 2014 - John Kerry offers Ukraine $1B
March 14 - Biden gets Ukraine portfolio
April 2014 - D. Archer (Hunter’s biz partner w/John Kerry’s stepson (Kerry’s top ‘04 fundraiser) visits Joe in White House
April 2014 - Joe visits Ukraine
April 2014 - Archer gets Burisma deal
May 2014 - Hunter gets Burisma deal
2015 - Joe Biden threatens to withhold $1 billion of said aid money if Ukraine doesn't fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma

This shit again? Not enough of this lying-by-omission in the laptop thread?

 

[Why_Me]

This shit again? Not enough of this lying-by-omission in the laptop thread?

Scoop: FEC fines DNC and Clinton for Trump dossier hoax

The Federal Election Commission has fined the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign for lying about the funding of the

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[DaaQ]

Scoop: FEC fines DNC and Clinton for Trump dossier hoax

The Federal Election Commission has fined the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign for lying about the funding of the

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Man 2 in one day?

JFC.

 

[ivwshane]

Do people find these forums and say to themselves, “this looks like a nice place to make an ass of myself”?

 

[DaaQ]

Do people find these forums and say to themselves, “this looks like a nice place to make an ass of myself”?

I think so, or it's "They are gonna SHOW us the TRUTH"

EDIT: but never do.

 

[Meghan54]

I think so, or it's "They are gonna SHOW us the TRUTH"

EDIT: but never do.

Even when asked, over and over. Always lament this or that but always fail to show any facts. Or, if you ever get any to link something, what they do show in no way reflects what they’re saying.

 

[zinfamous]

Totes not illegal in kind campaign contributions

https://twitter.com/x/status/1509531523065602062

just tell me that republican voters are voting for Vladimir Putin every time they vote, without telling me they are voting for Vladimir Putin.

 

[zinfamous]

Scoop: FEC fines DNC and Clinton for Trump dossier hoax

The Federal Election Commission has fined the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign for lying about the funding of the

www.washingtonexaminer.com

nope

 

[hal2kilo]

nope

Looks like a very minor accounting issue. Not enough granularity. I wouldn't trust anything out of that organization anyway. I don't think all the Dem positions were filled when the ruling was made.

 

[interchange]

Merrick Garland feels like a meme pick for Attorney General. Basically a recognizable name that was a sort of rallying cry for libs that felt slighted in 2016, but not really the right guy for the job.

But just because someone has served on the bench and may be qualified to be a SC justice does not qualify them to run an entire executive department, the skills are not translatable.

It is entirely possible that the department is in complete shambles after Bill Barr, maybe Barr went scorched earth on the department as he was leaving and Garland knows they are not in a good position to build the kind of case needed to bring against a former president, but the more cynical side of me is thinking the Garland either isn't into it (a sort of adherent to the "Nixon rule") or he's just not up to the challenge.

I don't know about that. We do know the DOJ is methodically building their Jan 6 investigations and prosecutions and it has branched out into Trump's orbit. The relative lack of public reporting and politically charged leaks about their investigation is exactly what I would expect from highly competent leadership motivated to follow the law instead of scoring political points.

 

[iRONic]

^^^From your lips/keyboard to their ears!!

 

[Fenixgoon]

I don't know about that. We do know the DOJ is methodically building their Jan 6 investigations and prosecutions and it has branched out into Trump's orbit. The relative lack of public reporting and politically charged leaks about their investigation is exactly what I would expect from highly competent leadership motivated to follow the law instead of scoring political points.

I agree, but at the same time, this requires faith in institutions that have so far failed to hold trump accountable whatsoever.

I'll be delighted to see trump in a suit that matches his hair, but I also won't be surprised if it never happens.

 

[Moonbeam]

And that goes back to my "You can be right and dead at the same time - all the time" comments. You can damn well understand all the molecules composing the oncoming train, yet here you are, tied to the track with zero options to put said understanding and knowledge into useful action.
You dont have the luxury of turning the other cheek right now, to forgive and embrace your opponent. give him a hug. He will kill you.

I don't think you understand what I have been saying. I am not talking about turning the other cheek or giving anybody a hug. I am saying there is a different way to deal with the madness of others than to react with insanity yourself, even if, like you, I personally may not always be up to it.

All of this goes back to the source of evil in the world. The world is perfect as it is. It is the Garden of Eden. There is no such thing as good and evil. There is only love harmony beauty and perfection. So how did evil enter our world. How did we come to believe in such a thing. (You realize, I hope, that it is via our notions of good and evil that we justify everything, how we determine who deserves our hate. The answer is nobody because evil does not exist.

But something surely does. How else could we experience such a effectively universal mass psychosis that it does.

I believe it is due to our use of language and the sense of duality it creates by dividing and naming things that, in fact, are not separate at all. We can use words to cause pain and that makes possible conditioning, the function of ego. The fear of being put down as children, an experience we all have had, creates an emotional need never to feel that pain again. We conform to survive and call ourselves champions of whatever truth we were taught that will tell us we are worthy and not valid targets of being further put down.

But the damage is already done. We have been taught there is a good and an evil and having experienced judgment we now become holy judges. All the rage and hatred we witnessed as children we are not fully armed to project on the world.

So what is evil. It is the actions of people who judge others based on a delusion they know what the good is. It is the actions of people who are insane, who believe they are the good and others are the evil their sacred mission is to correct, to judge, and to punish, exactly as happened to us.

The problem, of course, is that by believing that evil exists we become what we fear. This insanity is not only real but dangerous. You don't yourself have to be insane to be affected by it. You can either join in the game and pretend you are the real source of the good and the delusional are merely deluded and use that moral outrage to take action against them, or, understanding the it is morally wrong for the insane to harm the innocent, stop that action where one can. I call this a natural moral imperative. It is morally proper to act against people whose insanity is about to hurt someone, you or anybody else. And the proper response is the minimum of what ever it would take to prevent that harm from being done. There is no need for justification, rage, moral condemnation or any other trigger of past conditioning.

No need to hate the sick. They are sick because we grow up in darkness and some more than others. We can only have compassion for the past they had to endure with the obligation to fix things for the better where we can, but we are not obliged to endure their actions if they turn their inner hatred outward on others. That can even be a death sentence. Let us hope we never face such a situation.

 

[interchange]

I agree, but at the same time, this requires faith in institutions that have so far failed to hold trump accountable whatsoever.

I'll be delighted to see trump in a suit that matches his hair, but I also won't be surprised if it never happens.

Whether or we have faith in the Garland-led DOJ matters not as to what becomes of their work. It is difficult to sit idly by expecting that the interests of the people are being represented without lots and lots of stuff leaking to the public, but I for one am glad for the maintained distance between the politics of the executive and the DOJ. Truthfully, I am afraid that whatever becomes of the DOJ's investigations into Trump (convictions or nothing at all), it will leave the country even more divided. Regardless of outcome, I think representing the office with integrity is the best anyone can accomplish.

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't know about that. We do know the DOJ is methodically building their Jan 6 investigations and prosecutions and it has branched out into Trump's orbit. The relative lack of public reporting and politically charged leaks about their investigation is exactly what I would expect from highly competent leadership motivated to follow the law instead of scoring political points.

Unfortunately for me it also seems to be the perfect methodology behind which to hide the intention to put off a politically divisive decision until those who demand justice one way or the other die of old age. Can we really have a country in which the God of Republicans is put in jail? Better, no, we never find out?

If there is anything that appears more true to me than that politicians are cowards I don't know what it is.

Justice delayed is justice denied and the perfect is the enemy of the good. But I deeply deeply hope you positive outlook proves out. I've gone over to the dark side.

 

[Moonbeam]

Whether or we have faith in the Garland-led DOJ matters not as to what becomes of their work. It is difficult to sit idly by expecting that the interests of the people are being represented without lots and lots of stuff leaking to the public, but I for one am glad for the maintained distance between the politics of the executive and the DOJ. Truthfully, I am afraid that whatever becomes of the DOJ's investigations into Trump (convictions or nothing at all), it will leave the country even more divided. Regardless of outcome, I think representing the office with integrity is the best anyone can accomplish.

The problem I have here is the deep conviction that the only path to real integrity is to bring criminal charges against Trump. The idea he isn't guilty is absurd. Of course I would be happy to play along with the fiction that a person is innocent until convicted so long as the result is conviction.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Do people find these forums and say to themselves, “this looks like a nice place to make an ass of myself”?

I'm pretty certain its just a returning banned member. Or one who's account has been put on ignore by enough people that they know no one will respond. They'll out themselves soon enough. Then again...if you fucking idiots would stop responding to that trash and just put them on ignore immediately we might be able to ditch some of these clowns for good.

 

[hal2kilo]

Whether or we have faith in the Garland-led DOJ matters not as to what becomes of their work. It is difficult to sit idly by expecting that the interests of the people are being represented without lots and lots of stuff leaking to the public, but I for one am glad for the maintained distance between the politics of the executive and the DOJ. Truthfully, I am afraid that whatever becomes of the DOJ's investigations into Trump (convictions or nothing at all), it will leave the country even more divided. Regardless of outcome, I think representing the office with integrity is the best anyone can accomplish.

I agree 100%. I just wish there had been a little "leakage". I'm feeling a lot better now. Just saw an interview on MSNBC with Joy Reid and VP Kamala Harris. Joy asked her about what's going on with the DOJ investigation and she correctly answered that this administration is keeping their hands off of pushing the DOJ to do anything. Completely contrary to what the Trump administration was doing incorrectly with the DOJ.

 

[Moonbeam]

I agree 100%. I just wish there had been a little "leakage". I'm feeling a lot better now. Just saw an interview on MSNBC with Joy Reid and VP Kamala Harris. Joy asked her about what's going on with the DOJ investigation and she correctly answered that this administration is keeping their hands off of pushing the DOJ to do anything. Completely contrary to what the Trump administration was doing incorrectly with the DOJ.

As with every other thorny moral question I am all for pushing people to do what is right and never pushing them to do wrong. Liberalism, it seems to me is a higher level attempt to deal with that. People in the prosecutor field should not be subject to political influence because what is morally proper from one person's eyes may be evil incarnate to someone of a different political bent.

This is a higher ideal but what happens when some particular political bent becomes established within the organization whose task is to prosecute.

And, when a President decides he is above the law and destroy or hides evidence of his criminality, are we supposed to sit around with our hands tied and allow that kind of travesty of justice. The idea that nobody is above the law are words only and have become in real life just a joke. A democracy is only as strong as the decency and discriminatory capacity of its people.

Over the decades since Reagan billions have been spent to subvert the capacity of Americans to think independently. We live in a country of sleeping brainwashed idiots. Ring Around the Rosie time.