Trump requests additional collusion

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hal2kilo

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As with every other thorny moral question I am all for pushing people to do what is right and never pushing them to do wrong. Liberalism, it seems to me is a higher level attempt to deal with that. People in the prosecutor field should not be subject to political influence because what is morally proper from one person's eyes may be evil incarnate to someone of a different political bent.

This is a higher ideal but what happens when some particular political bent becomes established within the organization whose task is to prosecute.

And, when a President decides he is above the law and destroy or hides evidence of his criminality, are we supposed to sit around with our hands tied and allow that kind of travesty of justice. The idea that nobody is above the law are words only and have become in real life just a joke. A democracy is only as strong as the decency and discriminatory capacity of its people.

Over the decades since Reagan billions have been spent to subvert the capacity of Americans to think independently. We live in a country of sleeping brainwashed idiots. Ring Around the Rosie time.
I don't know if or will Congress do anything. There needs be some kind of guard rails established about how much the Ex branch can push the DOJ on. The justice department came about essentially because of Jim Crow and protecting peoples rights so it's can also be a vehicle for change. Congress and the courts still has to show them the way. The Voting Right Act. of 1964 for example.
 

Muse

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All I can say is I’ll be interested to see what excuse the collusion deniers come up with this time. Will be be ‘he’s just joking’? if so, is the idea he was just joking when he extorted Ukraine?
Trump is incapable of telling a real joke because he has no sense of humor. He's that wounded. Only reasonably sane people have a sense of humor. Trump does not qualify. Only the insane or liars would suggest he was joking with Zelenskyy.
 

Moonbeam

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Garland was the wrong pick. Should have picked an angry prosecutor with balls.
I suspect, 'don't rock the boat' was the plan going in from Biden. People who believe you are evil manifest that quality in their behavior and will treat you evilly from their imaginary beliefs as to what evil is. From a snake expect snake behavior. The reptilian brain of the people of fear are no different. Until they seriously repent, you deal with them mercilessly and without compromise. This is just something that does not come easy to liberals.
 

Moonbeam

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Is it better to out monster the monster than to be quietly devoured? Nietzsche
 
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Muse

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Sally Yates. Former deputy AG under Obama and a year under the orange monkey
Trump dismissed Yates for insubordination on January 30, after she instructed the Justice Department not to make legal arguments defending Executive Order 13769, which temporarily banned the admission of refugees and barred travel from certain Muslim-majority countries (later to include North Korea) on the grounds that terrorists were using the U.S. refugee resettlement program to enter the country. The ban was labeled as a "Muslim ban" by both Trump and his campaign's website.[1][2] Rather than defend it, Yates stated the order was neither defensible in court nor consistent with the Constitution.[3][4] Although large portions of the order were initially blocked by federal courts, the Supreme Court ultimately upheld a revised version.[5]