News Trump: Mar-a-Lago just raided by FBI

[Brainonska511]

Yang is just another in a long line of techbro libertarian clowns. Hope he enjoyed his brief moment in the spotlight before revealing to everyone what a clown he is.

 

[rommelrommel]

Actually...there are many factors that come into play. Thus it also is likely that Democrats will keep the house.

You know what the word “eventually” means, right? There’s a chance every two years or better.

 

[trenchfoot]

Mike Turner (R) from Ohio just said a bigly funny: He said that trump has more secrets in his head than in those boxes...lol the guy who ignored daily briefs has a treasure trove of info in his memory!

It seems to me the only memories he keeps in his head are of those people he wants to get even with in the worst way and oh yeah I forgot to mention the golf scores he's going to cheat his way into getting that week.

 

[pete6032]

Interesting analysis from NYT.

If Trump illegally removed official records, would he be barred from future office? (Published 2022)

The F.B.I.’s search of the former president’s Florida residence has drawn attention to a crime whose penalties include disqualification from future office — and the prospect of a fight over its constitutionality.

www.nytimes.com

If Trump illegally removed official records, would he be barred from future office?

There are several laws that could potentially cover such a situation. For example, the Espionage Act, which criminalizes the unauthorized retention of defense-related information that could be used to harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary, carries a penalty of up to 10 years in prison per offense.

But the law that has attracted particular attention is Section 2071 of Title 18 of the United States Code, which makes it a crime if someone who has custody of government documents or records “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys” them. Section 2071 is not limited to classified information.

If convicted under that law, defendants can be fined up to $2,000 and sentenced to prison for up to three years. In addition, the statute says, if they are currently in a federal office, they “shall forfeit” that office, and — perhaps most importantly, given widespread expectations that Mr. Trump will seek re-election again — they shall “be disqualified from holding” any federal office.

How could any ballot disqualification be challenged?
With an argument that the disqualification provision of Section 2071 is unconstitutional as relates to the presidency.

Article II of the United States Constitution establishes three criteria for presidential eligibility: One must be a “natural born citizen,” at least 35 years old and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years.

Since the Constitution prevails when it and a federal statute conflict, the argument would be that Congress lacks the authority to alter that list of criteria — such as by adding a requirement that one has not been convicted of unlawfully taking government documents.

Notably, the Constitution does authorize Congress to render people ineligible to hold federal office as a penalty for convictions in impeachment proceedings. But nothing in the text of the Constitution says lawmakers may use ordinary criminal law to do so.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The Phil G. Qanonsense crowd is applying generous amounts of copium to this...



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This is what happens when you stop allowing crazy cultist to spend all day selling flowers and stuff at the airport? It's like some shitty LARP, but they keep involving the rest of us. This can't end well.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Would Trump be stupid enough (he is stupid, but people around him are not) to take documents that he could sell to our country’s opponents? Espionage? If it were just a few documents, like a prized letter from a tyrant of an isolated nation, I’d figure it was for sentimental reasons. But if it’s boxes and boxes of documents, it’s most likely their contents are damning. He’s not going to take top-secret documents just because he thinks it’s fun to have them, or because he got confused. He’s going to take stuff that he didn’t want getting out.

On the other hand ... If the materials are simply incriminating, full stop, he has no reason to keep them. If the documents can put him in prison and have no other value, he simply burns them. Something else may be going on. . Right now, I'm skeptical that Trump held onto this material solely due to keep it out of other people’s view. Again, he’s a moron, but he’s a cagy veteran when it comes to fraud, crime and covering his tracks. If it’s not useful, and it’s simply incriminating, it’s ashes.

This may end up not being that big of a deal, if it is a big deal - I do think that this is evidence that the DOJ noose is tightening. In particular, it’s increasingly likely that insider goons like Manafort and Meadows are spilling the beans.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

The best wild idea I read about this whole fiasco, it that the call is coming from inside the house. I.E. Someone on the inside has been feeding info the whole time.

The coup de grace would be if a Russian asset was rolling on him. My bad, another Russian asset.

This will probably turn out to be about as effective as when they jailed Hitler, what with how our collective luck has been running.

 

[eelw]

The best wild idea I read about this whole fiasco, it that the call is coming from inside the house. I.E. Someone on the inside has been feeding info the whole time.

The coup de grace would be if a Russian asset was rolling on him. My bad, another Russian asset.

This will probably turn out to be about as effective as when they jailed Hitler, what with how our collective luck has been running.

BAD MELANIA!!!

 

[Roger Wilco]

GOP Rep. Scott Perry just lost his phone.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1557127964982132739

 

[Amused]

Too soon?

 

[VRAMdemon]

MAGAs: if they can raid a former President's residence, they can do this to you!

Also MAGAs: Breonna Taylor deserved to be killed in her sleep by LEOs executing a no-knock warrant even though she hadn't committed any crimes.

Or this...

MAGA's - “The FBI is investigating Hillary! This proves that Hillary is corrupt!”

MAGA"S - “The FBI is investigating Trump! This proves that the FBI is corrupt!”

 

[gothuevos]

This will probably turn out to be about as effective as when they jailed Hitler, what with how our collective luck has been running.

Isn't he already polling ahead of Biden in a hypothetical 2024 rematch?

I wonder how those numbers change after the end result of this.

 

[alien42]

GOP Rep. Scott Perry just lost his phone.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1557127964982132739

Surely this isn't just an oddly timed coincidence.

 

[Amol S.]

Then do tell; why didn't they place him in jail?

One needs to be convicted of a crime by the court of law, even after a raid. However, the FBI does have the right to place Trump under house arrest if they find what they are looking for and it is incriminatory.

The Phil G. Qanonsense crowd is applying generous amounts of copium to this...



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It really is scary as to how these people are in our nation. These people are as dangerous as El Chapo, if they get infuriated at you or your political ideas.

I think it is super clear that McConnell wants Trump gone from American political life.

That's why I said it could have been McConnell who tipped the FBI as revenge against Trump, and to show who really is boss.

Does anybody like this guy?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1556987104219090945

No, and he lost the NYC Democrat primary mayoral race against Adams.

People didn't like Hillary because she was a self absorbed conceited person with the personality of a turnip.

I wouldn't vote against anyone because they were a woman or gay. I can think of two women right off the bat I would vote for. I can't think of any gays off the top of my head worthy of a vote.

One of the reasons Hillary lost is also one the reasons why Al Gore lost. They both didn't campaign as hard as they should have. Had Hillary put more effort in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, Trump would never have won. What surprised me was the fact that Hillary went and spent campaign money while campaigning in Arkansas thinking she could flip it.... only to get met with disappointment.

GOP Rep. Scott Perry just lost his phone.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1557127964982132739

It's starting to look more like the raid has to do with Jan 6th investigation being done by the DOJ. Scott Perry was one of the many people to get subpoenaed by the jan 6th house committee.

 

[Amol S.]

Isn't he already polling ahead of Biden in a hypothetical 2024 rematch?

I wonder how those numbers change after the end result of this.

Trump was ahead of the Generic Democrat category in polls two years before 2020..... and who won 2020?

 

[VRAMdemon]

FBI broke into the safe of a former President? Wow. IF what His Donaldship says is true he is right, this has certainly never been done before. PS-the right to break into the safe would have been had to spelled out in the search warrant-so the need to do so would have had to be spelled out in detail to the judge that issued the search warrant.

This could really be something big.

Make America Safe again!

 

[Roger Wilco]

Three rooms

https://twitter.com/x/status/1557133923452436483

 

[VRAMdemon]

I can’t imagine the strain the toilets and the fireplaces in Trump Tower and Bedminster must currently be under.

Would Trump have any plans for the documents at all, either when he took them or in the years forward? His thought process could be no more complicated than “other people want these, so I will keep them.” Hell, even if he made a deal to sell secrets to the highest bidder, he’d take their money and most likely never deliver a thing.

It could be the boxes of stacks and stacks of papers marked “pardon”, which he signed at the bottom. I can see Donald at the copier on his last day in office.

Trump figured that they’re like coupons that you get to use whenever you get in trouble criming and frauding, and he’s been selling the things for a million each.

 

[pete6032]

Would Trump be stupid enough (he is stupid, but people around him are not) to take documents that he could sell to our country’s opponents? Espionage? If it were just a few documents, like a prized letter from a tyrant of an isolated nation, I’d figure it was for sentimental reasons. But if it’s boxes and boxes of documents, it’s most likely their contents are damning. He’s not going to take top-secret documents just because he thinks it’s fun to have them, or because he got confused. He’s going to take stuff that he didn’t want getting out.

On the other hand ... If the materials are simply incriminating, full stop, he has no reason to keep them. If the documents can put him in prison and have no other value, he simply burns them. Something else may be going on. . Right now, I'm skeptical that Trump held onto this material solely due to keep it out of other people’s view. Again, he’s a moron, but he’s a cagy veteran when it comes to fraud, crime and covering his tracks. If it’s not useful, and it’s simply incriminating, it’s ashes.

This may end up not being that big of a deal, if it is a big deal - I do think that this is evidence that the DOJ noose is tightening. In particular, it’s increasingly likely that insider goons like Manafort and Meadows are spilling the beans.

The documents either:
a) implicate him in a crime so he took them to cover it up
b) were requested by someone who is blackmailing him, or
c) Were taken with the intent of selling to someone in the future.

There is no reason he would sit on the documents if they were benign materials. Am curious to know if the presidential archive knows what's in them for certain.

 

[uallas5]

Trump allies are filling the airwaves with support for him and anger over the raid......Russian airwaves that is.

Russian State Media’s Response to the Mar-a-Lago Raid Is a Spectacle You Don’t Want to Miss (thedailybeast.com)

 

[KMFJD]

just lol

 

[Roger Wilco]

How long till Trump seeks asylum in Russia?

 

[K1052]

so what you're saying is they found some shit

https://twitter.com/x/status/1557074895103836166

 

[nicalandia]

We republicans should Defund the FBI the second we take congress back. Make Donal J Trump Chancellor of the USA(Life Appointment) Stack the Supreme Court and strike down every progressive landmark decision made in the last 60 years.

 

[Pens1566]

We republicans should Defund the FBI the second we take congress back. Make Donal J Trump Chancellor of the USA(Life Appointment) Stack the Supreme Court and strike down every progressive landmark decision made in the last 60 years.

This is a legit post, right?