Trump just fired Comey!

[emperus]

Catching up on my news. This tidbit struck me.

“It’s total chaos,” said one former transition team official with close ties to the administration.
“It’s image-making on the inside and people trying to protect themselves. There is a deep streak of paranoia among staff. The communications team s--- the bed on the Comey firing and now the war with the FBI has them all scared and throwing each other under the bus.
"Thank God I don’t work there. If I did, I’d be dialing up my attorney.”
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...te-house-to-correct-comey-firing-facts-report

 

[Homerboy]

Catching up on my news. This tidbit struck me.

“It’s total chaos,” said one former transition team official with close ties to the administration.
“It’s image-making on the inside and people trying to protect themselves. There is a deep streak of paranoia among staff. The communications team s--- the bed on the Comey firing and now the war with the FBI has them all scared and throwing each other under the bus.
"Thank God I don’t work there. If I did, I’d be dialing up my attorney.”
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...te-house-to-correct-comey-firing-facts-report

Seems like a well oiled team. I'm sure lots of great things are getting done under those conditions. I can't think of a better, more constructive work environment.

 

[brycejones]

Catching up on my news. This tidbit struck me.

“It’s total chaos,” said one former transition team official with close ties to the administration.
“It’s image-making on the inside and people trying to protect themselves. There is a deep streak of paranoia among staff. The communications team s--- the bed on the Comey firing and now the war with the FBI has them all scared and throwing each other under the bus.
"Thank God I don’t work there. If I did, I’d be dialing up my attorney.”
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...te-house-to-correct-comey-firing-facts-report

Fake news! It's the best ever they are doing awesome so much winning.

What about Hillarys emails and Benghazi? That is what is really important.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The President of the United States is threatening the former FBI director in the open....

Well fuck a duck.

 

[ch33zw1z]

There's so so so much winning, participation trophies don't even need to be handed out.

 

[vi edit]

There's so so so much winning, participation trophies don't even need to be handed out.

I legitimately laughed out loud. Thank you for that.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So we now have a situation where the president basically admitted to committing a crime in a televised interview and people are still so partisan that they are whining about the media.

Conservatives have lost their minds. I mean they went crazy under Obama but I figured that was just partisanship. It seems that the alternate reality they constructed to convince themselves Obama was bad just kind of stuck.

What do you do when half the country has simply lost any contact with reality?

I'm looking at this from a legally actionable perspective now, not making a challenge but I think you would know that.

What crime did Trump admit to in a technical sense? I'm interested in your opinions as Trump is clearly using his Office to intimidate a private citizen, which is reprehensible, but not illegal in a prosecutorial sense as I understand it. I couldn't bring myself to watch the interview.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I'm looking at this from a legally actionable perspective now, not making a challenge but I think you would know that.

What crime did Trump admit to in a technical sense? I'm interested in your opinions as Trump is clearly using his Office to intimidate a private citizen, which is reprehensible, but not illegal in a prosecutorial sense as I understand it. I couldn't bring myself to watch the interview.

Obstruction of Justice. He stated he called Comey to a meeting to discuss his future with the FBI. During that meeting he states he point blank asked Comey if he was under investigation. What message are you sending to the man when discussing his future if you, the person who decides his fate, ask that question about an investigation you are involved in?

 

[vi edit]

I'm looking at this from a legally actionable perspective now, not making a challenge but I think you would know that.

What crime did Trump admit to in a technical sense? I'm interested in your opinions as Trump is clearly using his Office to intimidate a private citizen, which is reprehensible, but not illegal in a prosecutorial sense as I understand it. I couldn't bring myself to watch the interview.

I don't think there is any "crime" either. It's more a question of intent. That is what has gotten him into so much trouble with the travel ban EO's and other things that have been blocked. It's him running his mouth off and providing intent to be later used against him.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm looking at this from a legally actionable perspective now, not making a challenge but I think you would know that.

What crime did Trump admit to in a technical sense? I'm interested in your opinions as Trump is clearly using his Office to intimidate a private citizen, which is reprehensible, but not illegal in a prosecutorial sense as I understand it. I couldn't bring myself to watch the interview.

He said that one of his reasons for firing Comey was the Russia investigation. Saying you fired an investigator because you didn't like how he was investigating you to me that's a pretty clear cut admission of obstruction of justice.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

He said that one of his reasons for firing Comey was the Russia investigation. Saying you fired an investigator because you didn't like how he was investigating you to me that's a pretty clear cut admission of obstruction of justice.

Oh man I have to find that exact quote. That would be a solid non-trivial basis for impeachment and removal from office.

 

[Pens1566]

Not sure why some people are still playing semantics with the Rosenstein info. It's blatantly obvious he wasn't happy with the portrayal of him being the hatchet man re Comey. The reporting is out there, from almost every legit institution. As soon as it was, the admin did a 180 and changed to "it was Trump's idea". Then it changed again. Gee, I wonder why they did that ...

On another note ... who in the admin keeps allowing the orange meat sack to participate in these interviews? For fucks sake, it's like Palin all over again. Everyone else sees the train wreck coming a mile away but you still keep parking the car on the tracks.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Oh man I have to find that exact quote. That would be a solid non-trivial basis for impeachment and removal from office.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/11/donald-trump-james-comey-firing-russia-investigation

Comey had been leading an investigation into possible collusion between Trump advisers and Russian officials when he was dismissed by the president. Defending that decision in an interview on NBC News on Thursday, Trump said: “And, in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said: ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve won.’”

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I found it and there is no ambiguity. He admitted to firing Comey and part of the reason was the Russian link investigation.

It is time for Congress to act and remove Trump.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I found it and there is no ambiguity. He admitted to firing Comey and part of the reason was the Russian link investigation.

It is time for Congress to act and remove Trump.

Congress controlled by Con's will never do this. (I hope I'm wrong)

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/11/donald-trump-james-comey-firing-russia-investigation

Everything else in this thread has become secondary I think. The President fired Comey because of his investigation and threatened him afterwards on twitter.

Writing my representatives now.

 

[fskimospy]

I found it and there is no ambiguity. He admitted to firing Comey and part of the reason was the Russian link investigation.

It is time for Congress to act and remove Trump.

Yes, I don't see how this is not front page news everywhere. I mean I get how threatening the former FBI director is also insane and huge news but this is pretty much the admission of a crime.

 

[vi edit]

Oh man I have to find that exact quote. That would be a solid non-trivial basis for impeachment and removal from office.

Just watch the interview. This man has the mental capacity of a 4th grader. There was a particular part that reminded me of Tommy Boy.

Tommy: Here's the way I see it, Ted. Guy puts a fancy guarantee on a box 'cause he wants you to fell all warm and toasty inside.
Ted Nelson: Yeah, makes a man feel good.
Tommy: 'Course it does. Why shouldn't it? Ya figure you put that little box under your pillow at night, the Guarantee Fairy might come by and leave a quarter, am I right, Ted?
Ted Nelson: What's your point?
Tommy: The point is, how do you know the fairy isn't a crazy glue sniffer? "Building model airplanes" says the little fairy, well, we're not buying it. He sneaks into your house once, that's all it takes. The next thing you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up, I seen it a hundred times.
Ted Nelson: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?
Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for now, for your customer's sake, for your daughter's sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality product from me.
Ted Nelson: Okay, I'll buy from you.
Tommy: Well, that's... What?

 

[ch33zw1z]

Everything else in this thread has become secondary I think. The President fired Comey because of his investigation and threatened him afterwards on twitter.

Writing my representatives now.

I don't email my rep's often, but this got me to do it.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

1.)At some point you have to wonder why this is more important than the fact that Trump fired the FBI director investigating him.

2.) Just like most of your posts, as more info comes out, I'm sure you'll look equally ridiculous. Remember your argument about the Deputy AG yesterday. Here is the liberal bastion(lol) the Wall Street Journal's reporting.

Rosenstein Pressed White House to Correct the Record on Comey Firing
Deputy attorney general objected to White House description of events, and hinted he couldn’t work in an environment where facts weren’t accurately reported

Now, we can play the semantics game or we can can understand the gist of the reporting and be thankful we have a better understanding of how this episode transpired. And it should be troubling that the deputy AG is playing this semantics game.

So the story has now changed to Comey "hinted" instead....so that's how you rationalize the horseshit MSM reporting initially saying he threatened to quit. Nice! Care to rationalize the bald-faced lie that Comey was denied additional resources as well?

 

[K1052]

As a starter here Sessions should be hauled in front of the Judiciary Committee and questioned about his supposed recusal from all issues Trump-Russia. If he had indeed recused himself helping Trump engineer Comey's ouster on the basis of Trump's unhappiness with the Russia investigations would seem to indicate he's lied to congress....again. Should his answers not be satisfactory he should be impeached and removed from his position.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So the story has now changed to Comey "hinted" instead....and that's how you rationalize the horseshit MSM reporting initially saying he threatened to quit. Nice! Care to rationalize the bald-faced lie that Comey was denied additional resources as well?

It no longer matters in the larger scheme of things. Trump in his own words admitted that part of his reason for firing Comey was because of the investigation into Russian connections. He fired someone responsible for the investigation of Russian interference which may have reflected badly on Trump or others he's close to. This constitutes willful obstruction and whatever other laws apply to officials in office using their authority to silence proceedings. On top of that Trump made a direct threat on Comey afterwards.

You would have called for the removal of Obama if this had happened, and rightly so. Right and wrong are not rightfully based on party or ideology nor a partisan claim.

This goes beyond like or dislike. This is an inherently illegal act and no naysaying can change the law.

 

[thraashman]

Congress controlled by Con's will never do this. (I hope I'm wrong)

A good rule of thumb for when conservatives control Congress. Ask yourself just one question as to if they'll do something, and that question is "Is it the right thing to do?" If you answer "yes" to that question, you know they won't do it.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It no longer matters in the larger scheme of things. Trump in his own words admitted that part of his reason for firing Comey was because of the investigation into Russian connections. He fired someone responsible for the investigation of Russian interference which may have reflected badly on Trump or others he's close to. This constitutes willful obstruction and whatever other laws apply to officials in office using their authority to silence proceedings. On top of that Trump made a direct threat on Comey afterwards.

You would have called for the removal of Obama if this had happened, and rightly so. Right and wrong are not rightfully based on party or ideology nor a partisan claim.

This goes beyond like or dislike. This is an inherently illegal act and no naysaying can change the law.

This is a completely different matter from the point I was making.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

A good rule of thumb for when conservatives control Congress. Ask yourself just one question as to if they'll do something, and that question is "Is it the right thing to do?" If you answer "yes" to that question, you know they won't do it.

This is a matter of profit and loss. If the wrong done is such that it puts the political books in the red with corresponding loss in seats the Reps will toss Trump under the bus in a heartbeat. That said it has to be something significant that will stick, but I think this may be it. The press is strangely missing in reporting on the significance of this action.