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Vic

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He can say whatever he wants. Unless he enacts laws, it is just freedom of expression, dumb as it may be.
Which is why I also pointed out that it is irresponsible leadership. This man is President of the United States, not a circus clown. As free as his personal speech may be, the American people are allowed to judge him by his words. Especially when his words are contrary to his oath of office.
 

sdifox

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Which is why I also pointed out that it is irresponsible leadership. This man is President of the United States, not a circus clown. As free as his personal speech may be, the American people are allowed to judge him by his words. Especially when his words are contrary to his oath of office.

And that is where the congress, senate, news media, public are supposed to call him out.

He is free to have an opinion. He also has to suffer the consequences, but that is not happening right now.
 

Vic

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And that is where the congress, senate, news media, public are supposed to call him out.

He is free to have an opinion. He also has to suffer the consequences, but that is not happening right now.

I could not possibly agree more.
 

Chiropteran

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So you admit that there is corroboration on the dossier. Ergo not fake like you stipulated. Go stand in the corner.

So, counterfeit money isn't fake, since it's a real physical object?

The dossier exists. It's fake, full of lies and misinformation.

I don't really understand how you can fail to grasp this.

The mere existence of something does not prove it is legit and truthful.
 

brycejones

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So, counterfeit money isn't fake, since it's a real physical object?

The dossier exists. It's fake, full of lies and misinformation.

I don't really understand how you can fail to grasp this.

The mere existence of something does not prove it is legit and truthful.
You do understand that parts of it have been verified right?
 

Chiropteran

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You do understand that parts of it have been verified right?

You do understand that if you tell a story in which you make 3 truthful statements and one lie, the story is a lie?

"Brycejones posts on anandtech forums, and he also murders children"
-Based on your logic, you can't call the prior quote fake, because part of it is true.
 

brycejones

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You do understand that if you tell a story in which you make 3 truthful statements and one lie, the story is a lie?

"Brycejones posts on anandtech forums, and he also murders children"
-Based on your logic, you can't call the prior quote fake, because part of it is true.

I'll take derp for $1000 Alex.
 

Grooveriding

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This is not worth the forum database space. He's been proven wrong multiple times. This is a fully indoctrinated Trump subreddit drone. That place is a propaganda brainwash mill. Once they get fried by the lunacy, they're not coming back.

He probably has more important things to do anyways, like check his local pizza shop for a basement.
 

Bowfinger

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Did you read the judge's actual ruling? No, of course you didn't. You rely on propaganda sites like Lawnewz.com to do your thinking for you, to spin reality into alternative facts that support your biases. Or, even more pathetic, you rely on like-mindedTwitter blowhards to think for you, because sites like Lawnewz use too many words. Either way, sad.

Had you read the ruling, you would know that it was NOT deciding whether or not CNN's story was accurate. It was considering CNN's motion to dismiss the complaint without trial. As the judge pointed out repeatedly in his ruling, when considering a motion to dismiss he must presume all of the plaintiff's allegations are true. The motion to dismiss can be granted only if the plaintiff's case is so baseless that it will fail even if all of his claims are true. This judge looked at the case and said __IF__ the plaintiff's claims are all true, the case should go to trial. That's it. The judge did not rule at all about CNN's accuracy. That will come in the trial.

In short, by your own standards, Lawnewz.com is fake news. You've been duped again.
 
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Bowfinger

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No, I'll take door #3 -- you live in a bubble of alternative facts. CNN never stated every detail in the dossier was accurate. Moreover, they didn't report the details of the many different reports in the dossier. They merely reported that the dossier existed, and it was alleged to contain incriminating information the Russian government could use to influence Trump. Both claims are accurate.

If you are so desperate to find incompetent and corrupt media, I suggest you focus on the right-wing advocacy media and the propaganda blogs that cater to the right-wing fringe (e.g., Breitbart, Daily Caller, American Thinker, etc.) Their entire business model is reporting speculation, innuendo, and outright lies as fact. Somehow I suspect you won't see this, however. I'm guessing you're one of rubes that falls for their propaganda, again and again and again.
Crickets ...


Please link to where CNN said a single word about Michael Cohen in its reporting about this dossier. Here is CNN's initial article on the dossier:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/

Have at it. And feel free to search for other articles from CNN about the dossier. I challenge you to find anything in any of them which is not accurate. Time to put up or shut up.
More crickets ...
 

cytg111

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Meghan54

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Lemme ask you...do you really like sitting in a corner, repeatedly hitting yourself in the scrotum with a ball peen hammer? 'Cause it sure does look like you do.....



You do understand that if you tell a story in which you make 3 truthful statements and one lie, the story is a lie?

"Brycejones posts on anandtech forums, and he also murders children"
-Based on your logic, you can't call the prior quote fake, because part of it is true.

So, counterfeit money isn't fake, since it's a real physical object?

The dossier exists. It's fake, full of lies and misinformation.

I don't really understand how you can fail to grasp this.

The mere existence of something does not prove it is legit and truthful.
 

Chiropteran

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Lemme ask you...do you really like sitting in a corner, repeatedly hitting yourself in the scrotum with a ball peen hammer? 'Cause it sure does look like you do.....

It really sucks being so wrong all the time, doesn't it?

Keep on throwing out the attacks, if you makes you feel better.
 

IronWing

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It really sucks being so wrong all the time, doesn't it?

Keep on throwing out the attacks, if you makes you feel better.
^ Running dog


Edit: Modern insults just don't compare to the good ol' days. "Running dog lackey of capitalist imperialism, a bourgouise traitor to the protletariat, a lickspittle idler and a kulak parasite, a Bonpartist pig, a Trotskite facsist hyena, a ranchevist, a stoner, a lazybones, and a class traitor"
 
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ivwshane

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It really sucks being so wrong all the time, doesn't it?

Keep on throwing out the attacks, if you makes you feel better.

Well, to be fair, nothing else seems to get through to you. Your twitter link was refuted with an actual argument and you ignored it and instead responded to the other post.

Clearly, being wrong is something you've come to simply ignore.
 

Chiropteran

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Well, to be fair, nothing else seems to get through to you. Your twitter link was refuted with an actual argument and you ignored it and instead responded to the other post.

So the trial against CNN for publishing fake news is cleared to move forward, that proves CNN isn't fake news?

Sorry, you seem to be confused about what "refute" means. Nothing has been refuted, it's an ongoing process.

Can't wait until CNN is found guilty, the "refute" will be "but but CNN can still appeal! it's not final yet!"
 

brycejones

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So the trial against CNN for publishing fake news is cleared to move forward, that proves CNN isn't fake news?

Sorry, you seem to be confused about what "refute" means. Nothing has been refuted, it's an ongoing process.

Can't wait until CNN is found guilty, the "refute" will be "but but CNN can still appeal! it's not final yet!"
Nothing has been proven either or did you miss that?
 

jackstar7

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When do you all realize your quality of life goes up when you ignore guys like this? He's been trolling for over 9 pages of this shit.

There's a significant difference between those that disagree with you and those that don't agree with reality.
 
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Bowfinger

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So the trial against CNN for publishing fake news is cleared to move forward, that proves CNN isn't fake news?

Sorry, you seem to be confused about what "refute" means. Nothing has been refuted, it's an ongoing process.

Can't wait until CNN is found guilty, the "refute" will be "but but CNN can still appeal! it's not final yet!"
Excuse me, sweetie, but you're being extremely dishonest. It was YOU who claimed your Twitter link "verified" that "CNN is fake news." Your assertion is factually false; the tweet (and the story) didn't even address the issue of CNN's accuracy for that one story, let alone their overall accuracy. By your own simplistic, black and white view of the world, your false assertion was a lie. Also by your own standard, since you told one lie, we should discount everything else you say as lies.

In other words, according to your own words, you are a liar. Sad.

Edit: typo
 
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Meghan54

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Still pounding, eh? Sad, really.


Legally verified: CNN is fake news.[/QUOTE]
So the trial against CNN for publishing fake news is cleared to move forward, that proves CNN isn't fake news?

Sorry, you seem to be confused about what "refute" means. Nothing has been refuted, it's an ongoing process.

Can't wait until CNN is found guilty, the "refute" will be "but but CNN can still appeal! it's not final yet!"
 

Chiropteran

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Excuse me, sweetie, but you're being extremely dishonest. It was YOU who claimed your Twitter link "verified" that "CNN is fake news." Your assertion is factually false; the tweet (and the story) didn't even address the issue of CNN's accuracy for that one story, let alone their overall accuracy. By your own simplistic, black and white view of the world, your false assertion was a lie. Also by your own standard, since you told one lie, we should discount everything else you say as lies.

In other words, according to your own words, you are a liar. Sad.

Edit: typo

You do realize that every single negative attack on Trump has been tested EVEN LESS than this by the legal system?

If you are going to disregard a lawsuit because it hasn't reached a guilty verdict yet, then you need to start discounting all the idiotic attacks by the MSM that also haven't been proven in court.
 

agent00f

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You do realize that every single negative attack on Trump has been tested EVEN LESS than this by the legal system?

If you are going to disregard a lawsuit because it hasn't reached a guilty verdict yet, then you need to start discounting all the idiotic attacks by the MSM that also haven't been proven in court.

Given the natural bottom stack ranking given to empirical reality in conservatism, well below sycophantic loyalty and maybe selfish interest, it's a mystery why its membership exerts so much effort only to demonstrate the fact.
 

brycejones

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You do realize that every single negative attack on Trump has been tested EVEN LESS than this by the legal system?

If you are going to disregard a lawsuit because it hasn't reached a guilty verdict yet, then you need to start discounting all the idiotic attacks by the MSM that also haven't been proven in court.

Now I see it. The attack on all information as being dishonest unless it is proven in court so your glorious leader can say whatever he wants without being questioned.
 

ivwshane

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You do realize that every single negative attack on Trump has been tested EVEN LESS than this by the legal system?

If you are going to disregard a lawsuit because it hasn't reached a guilty verdict yet, then you need to start discounting all the idiotic attacks by the MSM that also haven't been proven in court.

I guess the fact that trump rescinded his EO means he was never wrong, right? Winning!