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Indus

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You are the one who made the first ridiculous statement and now you are doubling down.

Lets make an all inclusive list for Democrats:

Slavery
Jim Crow
Hillary selling our uranium supply to the Russians
Hunter taking bribes from corrupt Ukranians

And pedophilia? How about noted democrat Jeffrey Epstein?

You're the most dumbass sawdust for brains poster on here. Hell you probably live here:

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Were you alive in 1860s?

Why would we sell uranium when we actually need to import it? (FFS just google where is Uranium naturally found.. it isn't in the USA)

More than 85% of uranium is produced in six countries: Kazakhstan, Canada, Australia, Namibia, Niger, and Russia.

Was Hunter ever running for office where he could make US Policy?

Everything I said was factual but keep drinking Orange koolaid and quote alleged unproven stuff as facts!

And it's a sad fucking day when Ann Coulter who I hate seems to have more brains than you:

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MrSquished

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You're the most dumbass sawdust for brains poster on here. Hell you probably live here:

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Were you alive in 1860s?

Why would we sell uranium when we actually need to import it? (FFS just google where is Uranium naturally found.. it isn't in the USA)

More than 85% of uranium is produced in six countries: Kazakhstan, Canada, Australia, Namibia, Niger, and Russia.

Was Hunter ever running for office where he could make US Policy?

Everything I said was factual but keep drinking Orange koolaid and quote alleged unproven stuff as facts!

And it's a sad fucking day when Ann Coulter who I hate seems to have more brains than you:

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That guy is just a representation of the virus that is the base of the gqp.

They are the exact same viruses that became fascist authoritarian regimes whether in Germany, Italy, or Spain. Authoritarian regimes in the name of Mao in China, Pol Pot, Pinochet, Stalin, etc....

There have always been a chunk of any big population that become a virus by falling in line with authoritarian movements with the common theme of jingoism and hating on the other, and that they only know the good kind of culture. Sometimes this makes them religious based as well sometimes it's anti-religent based.

The point is the ingredients are very similar, And our gqp base is just our version of those that become part of the virus, Just like they have thousands of time in history, And are happening now currently all over the world in dozens of places.

I don't know why people can't learn from history books. These people are evil just like all those other people were and all these other movements were. Another common theme is they have no capacity to realize how fucking evil they are.

Another common theme is that The rest of the population is too naive to really think that people can be that bad, Even though anybody who knows even a goddamn thing about history you should know that's exactly what they're capable of. It's like this built-in self denial.

The evil people are in complete denial of what they are, And enough of the sane people are in denial that people can really be that fucking shitty. And then surprise!
 
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Indus

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That guy is just a representation of the virus that is the base of the gqp.

They are the exact same viruses that became fascist authoritarian regimes whether in Germany, Italy, or Spain. Authoritarian regimes in the name of Mao in China, Pol Pot, Pinochet, Stalin, etc....

There have always been a chunk of any big population that become a virus by falling in line with authoritarian movements with the common theme of jingoism and hating on the other, and that they only know the good kind of culture. Sometimes this makes them religious based as well sometimes it's anti-religent based.

The point is the ingredients are very similar, And our gqp base is just our version of those that become part of the virus, Just like they have thousands of time in history, And are happening now currently all over the world in dozens of places.

I don't know why people can't learn from history books. These people are evil just like all those other people were and all these other movements were. Another common theme is they have no capacity to realize how fucking evil they are.

Another common theme is that The rest of the population is too naive to really think that people can be that bad, Even though anybody who knows even a goddamn thing about history you should know that's exactly what they're capable of. It's like this built-in self denial.

The evil people are in complete denial of what they are, And enough of the same people are in denial that people can really be that fucking shitty. And then surprise!

Yep he sold his intelligence for a Red MAGA hat!

Now he is no longer human with the ability to critically think or reason. And we humans don't communicate well with other species.
 

MrSquished

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Yep he sold his intelligence for a Red MAGA hat!

Now he is no longer human with the ability to critically think or reason. And we humans don't communicate well with other species.

We all started as humans, We all had a shot to be okay. Including them. But, him and his human crowd did not turn out okay. This is life. This is history.

They're still human they just have a virus that ate their soul. They have no soul, very little decency and very few morals.
 

trenchfoot

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We all started as humans, We all had a shot to be okay. Including them. But, him and his human crowd did not turn out okay. This is life. This is history.

They're still human they just have a virus that ate their soul. They have no soul, very little decency and very few morals.


From my observations conservative friends of mine are very decent caring folks to their friends and loved ones UNTIL politics gets in the way and 99% of the time they are the ones who open that can of putrid smelling worms, as if they are so consumed by the angst and frustration they feel from having to defend Trump from a heavily disadvantaged position because they must painfully rationalize their way around Trump's racist tinged diatribes, his unhinged blatant lies and his malicious, malevolent malfeasant behavior.

They want to defend him but they don't have any factual meaningful evidence to do it with, so what else can they do but spout nebulously vague, evasive and gloriously embellished fairy tales of his accomplishments and his (never kept) promises of enacting better health care and tax cuts for "His People". They must also defend issues that are solely meant to drive a wedge between the masses, like the border issue where they scream bloody murder for things to be done about it BUT they also don't want to fix it so as to keep that and a bunch of other hoax ginned up shit that they can then accuse Biden and the "Radical Left" of being guilty of.

It's so easy to corner these folks into a state of blabbering because they don't have any defenses that can withstand the test of a genuine argument for and against Trump's qualifications, his statesmanship, his integrity, his morals and ethics, all of which he has clearly shown to the world that he has none of. So what else can they do but turn all of his glaring faults into something they can admire and respect him for.

Now who in their right mind would ever want to do such painful humiliating things to themselves is beyond me, let alone the fact that there are literally millions of them having to do it to themselves 24/7/365.
 

kage69

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It always brings a smile to my face to see Team Treason attempt to defend the indefensible by smugly ramming their heads up their asses.

If after all the criminality, the corruption, the obstruction of justice and the treason you still refer to the repugs as the party of law and order, grats, you're insane. Time to check into the rubber bungalow before you hurt yourself. Being less attached to reality than the pseudo nazi Ann Coulter is a sign, and it says Get Help.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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From my observations conservative friends of mine are very decent caring folks to their friends and loved ones UNTIL politics gets in the way and 99% of the time they are the ones who open that can of putrid smelling worms, as if they are so consumed by the angst and frustration they feel from having to defend Trump from a heavily disadvantaged position because they must painfully rationalize their way around Trump's racist tinged diatribes, his unhinged blatant lies and his malicious, malevolent malfeasant behavior.

They want to defend him but they don't have any factual meaningful evidence to do it with, so what else can they do but spout nebulously vague, evasive and gloriously embellished fairy tales of his accomplishments and his (never kept) promises of enacting better health care and tax cuts for "His People". They must also defend issues that are solely meant to drive a wedge between the masses, like the border issue where they scream bloody murder for things to be done about it BUT they also don't want to fix it so as to keep that and a bunch of other hoax ginned up shit that they can then accuse Biden and the "Radical Left" of being guilty of.

It's so easy to corner these folks into a state of blabbering because they don't have any defenses that can withstand the test of a genuine argument for and against Trump's qualifications, his statesmanship, his integrity, his morals and ethics, all of which he has clearly shown to the world that he has none of. So what else can they do but turn all of his glaring faults into something they can admire and respect him for.

Now who in their right mind would ever want to do such painful humiliating things to themselves is beyond me, let alone the fact that there are literally millions of them having to do it to themselves 24/7/365.

Of course. Nazis didn't walk around kicking puppies and slamming doors in peoples' faces, being arsonists and tipping over trash cans on every walk. They had families, they coached kids sports teams, they were pharmacists, teachers, cashiers, doctors, lawyers, etc... They seemed like normal people for those standard day to day interactions. But inside, they were evil. If they were good people, these horrific authoritarian movements with these people's support would not have happened with their votes or their support to the cause.

And I wouldn't say it's just Trump. A huge chunk of all GQP politicians and right-wing influences are also on a similar level of horribleness.
 

HomerJS

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This confirms it. Illegal border crossings have never been zero yet that is what Mike Johnson demands.
 
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trenchfoot

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Can you just imagine those big agribusinesses that rely on cheap imported labor having to pay higher wages in order to attract field hands from a shrinking labor pool because the MAGAts insist on closing the southern border down tighter than what the Berlin Wall did to Germans living in the east?

So what say Biden gives Trump what he and his freedom caucus freaks demand and see the cost of groceries skyrocket because of the labor shortage they created. Sure, the MAGAts are more than willing to suffer from the backlash and cost of living increases from that but what of everyone else?
 

HomerJS

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Can you just imagine those big agribusinesses that rely on cheap imported labor having to pay higher wages in order to attract field hands from a shrinking labor pool because the MAGAts insist on closing the southern border down tighter than what the Berlin Wall did to Germans living in the east?

So what say Biden gives Trump what he and his freedom caucus freaks demand and see the cost of groceries skyrocket because of the labor shortage they created. Sure, the MAGAts are more than willing to suffer from the backlash and cost of living increases from that but what of everyone else?
Red states will just keep lowering the child labor age requirements to single digits.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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Red states will just keep lowering the child labor age requirements to single digits.


Which pretty much brings back those glory days of having slave labor maximizing profits for the elite land owners of that era. Sad to see how the Republican party is a mere tool that the oligarchs of the nation use to remotely operate their paid elected political bots at all levels of gov't. while effectively mind fucking the folks who like to brand themselves as "conservatives" into sending these bots back to office over and over again.

It's political racketeering at its finest.
 

feralkid

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Which pretty much brings back those glory days of having slave labor maximizing profits for the elite land owners of that era. Sad to see how the Republican party is a mere tool that the oligarchs of the nation use to remotely operate their paid elected political bots at all levels of gov't. while effectively mind fucking the folks who like to brand themselves as "conservatives" into sending these bots back to office over and over again.

It's political racketeering at its finest.


The truth makes me wanna barf.
 
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HomerJS

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The latest talking point from Pubs. A new law isn't necessary to secure the border.

If I recall, wasn't it Republicans who bundled Israel and Ukraine funding along with the border?

Now they are saying it isn't necessary?

The lies just keep stepping on each other.
 

trenchfoot

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The latest talking point from Pubs. A new law isn't necessary to secure the border.

If I recall, wasn't it Republicans who bundled Israel and Ukraine funding along with the border?

Now they are saying it isn't necessary?

The lies just keep stepping on each other.


And the beauty of it all as far as they're concerned is that no lie is too great, no lie is too small and once uttered, no shits are given, no shits are taken. It like horses in a parade where they leave their crap behind them without nary an afterthought, never needing to wipe their asses after the fact.
 

VRAMdemon

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That “army” of “patriots” who were going to drive to Texas to defend the state’s right to ignore a SCOTUS ruling has fizzled because the cultists all think it’s a Deep State "honeypot"...Huh?!


So, another “convoy” that’s supposed to show up at the border but never arrives?

I don’t understand the “honeypot” part of it. I thought I was going to be reading about hot FBI agents in lingerie sprawled on the banks of the Rio Grande? *shrug*

I guess it all makes sense if you believe that Nikki Haley wanted Trump supporters to invade the Capitol and murder the vice president in order to make Trump look bad.
 
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K1052

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The "we will not help Americans if there is any possilbity of our political opponents benefiting" stuff out in the open is getting pretty ballsy. Their base loves this stuff but it's a risk with the voters they are going to need in the general if those voters start to perceive (accurately) they are just milking everything for political gain.

 

Saylick

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If there's any remaining uncertainty that politics is purely tribalism for the Right, it's gone as evidenced by this openness from conservative politicians about killing anything that might benefit average citizens if it even remotely benefits a Democratic President. Just straight up party over country.
 
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IronWing

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That “army” of “patriots” who were going to drive to Texas to defend the state’s right to ignore a SCOTUS ruling has fizzled because the cultists all think it’s a Deep State "honeypot"...Huh?!


So, another “convoy” that’s supposed to show up at the border but never arrives?

I don’t understand the “honeypot” part of it. I thought I was going to be reading about hot FBI agents in lingerie sprawled on the banks of the Rio Grande? *shrug*

I guess it all makes sense if you believe that Nikki Haley wanted Trump supporters to invade the Capitol and murder the vice president in order to make Trump look bad.
A convoy of honey wagons heading to a honey pot?
 

trenchfoot

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If there's any remaining uncertainty that politics is purely tribalism for the Right, it's gone as evidenced by this openness from conservative politicians about killing anything that might benefit average citizens if it even remotely benefits a Democratic President. Just straight up party over country.


There's also another reason the Republicans don't want the Democrats giving the working class folks of the nation what they actually want from the government: It's that the Republicans themselves don't want to give the blue collar working stiffs of America what they want from the gov't.
 

dank69

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Actually this part is pretty much the same. The far right has blown up every immigration deal for the last 20 years and the rest of the GOP has let them.

The main difference now is that even people inside the party, and Trump himself, are explicitly saying it is for political gain into tv cameras. I think the potential problem is that this is a play to the base instead of the people in the middle they need to convince they are serious.
The people in the middle are in the middle because they don't pay attention or because they hate Democrats with every fiber of their being.
 

K1052

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With the text out conservative Rs have gone from "we cannot possibly read this bill and understand it if we don't have weeks to do so" to "this is the worst immigration bill in the history of the county" in a few hours time.

The last time I've seen this level of absurd ferocious lying going on about something had to have been the ACA before it passed. It's simply incredible. This is the most conservative immigration bill the Ds have ever signed off on crafted by a conservative Republican. R house members can't decide if they need HR2, don't need any legislation, or what exactly. We can safely conclude that it is flatly not possible to ever reach an immigration compromise with people who simply do not want a deal under even the most favorable terms to them. Republicans won't reform immigration because they want to campaign on the issue forever. Every Dem should be on TV shouting this into the cameras to make voters aware.
 

trenchfoot

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So pardon my shallow understanding of this issue when I ask out loud, now that it is known without doubt that the Republicans want to give Trump and themselves the immigration issue as a hot topic to run against the Democrats and will never agree to any deal concerning immigration from the south, why is it that Biden and the Democrats haven't now offered up aid to Ukraine as a stand alone issue because of how critical it is for Ukraine to win their war against Putin?
 
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