How specifically is the government NOT doing their job? They are detaining record numbers of people and applying appropriate laws when they detain them to determine next steps. Are you of the opinion that "defending the border" means we need to shoot anyone who crosses it?
trenchfoot
Lifer
- Aug 5, 2000
- 15,772
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Trump's version of the Berlin Wall is what MAGAts want because it's what Trump told them to want. It's so much more emotionally fulfilling than balancing the budget (of which the GOP heads of state are such hypocrites about).
The Republican party is built on a foundation of hate. They need enemies to dispense their propagandized hate on and alleviate the fear they've been brain fucked into feeling and believing. They need this hate and fear as a means to rally themselves against a perceived common enemy. They need religiously endorsed racism as a method of defining themselves as a group. They need to be constantly lied to by their cadre so as to be perfectly fine with being lied to because those lies become their truths, their made up version of why they need to keep fighting against whomever or whatever their corporate sponsored stooges in gov't tell them fight against.
Crazy is as Crazy does. The crazier the better. Off they go down that MAGAt red brick road of mayhem and chaos to fuck things up for Biden and the Democrats worse than Trump did to America.
The Republican party is built on a foundation of hate. They need enemies to dispense their propagandized hate on and alleviate the fear they've been brain fucked into feeling and believing. They need this hate and fear as a means to rally themselves against a perceived common enemy. They need religiously endorsed racism as a method of defining themselves as a group. They need to be constantly lied to by their cadre so as to be perfectly fine with being lied to because those lies become their truths, their made up version of why they need to keep fighting against whomever or whatever their corporate sponsored stooges in gov't tell them fight against.
Crazy is as Crazy does. The crazier the better. Off they go down that MAGAt red brick road of mayhem and chaos to fuck things up for Biden and the Democrats worse than Trump did to America.
That is false. Individuals seeking asylum are able to request it regardless of where they enter the US. This is longstanding federal law and it's confusing how frequently conservatives try and spread falsehoods about it. Trump even lost several court cases making this absurd claim!
Those administering the federal government say the resources provided are insufficient to do the job in a timely and effective manner.
Imagine having a police department of one person and then passing all sorts of laws to make things illegal. Then you say 'those are already illegal, our town sheriff just needs to do his job and arrest everyone.' All this of course ignores the fact that our immigration legislation as it is is awful and we need to make it much, much easier to legally immigrate to the US, which would require new legislation.
The problem is that Republicans affirmatively do not want to resolve the immigration situation, which is why they keep torpedoing every attempt to do so. The problem you're complaining about? Republicans LOVE it and want it to continue forever. If you want to solve it, vote for Democrats.
I do remember how pcgeek used apprehension figures to claim that the border patrol wasn't doing its job. This logic would indicate if they didn't arrest anyone pcgeek would think they were doing an excellent job.
Lol Repugican governors, 25 of the 26 wrote letter approving of Abbott ignoring SCOTUS ruling that his use of razor wire is illegal and must be removed. Come on D states, just ban guns.
JD50
Lifer
- Sep 4, 2005
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Schrodingers Border, we simultaneously have open borders and record high apprehensions.
JD50
Lifer
- Sep 4, 2005
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- 2,883
- 136
"Current immigration law is fine" from the people who scream loudest about illegal immigration certainly is something I wasn't expecting to see.
Their rationale/argument is if that many are being encountered, apprehended, etc, then how many more are slipping through?
I'm not saying I agree with it, but that is their entire argument and there's zero way to quantify "who's slipping through."
Yes I have lost track of what the right is even mad about?
It's simultaneously an invasion that can wait until Trump is in office to fix it, yet also the current immigration laws are enough to take care of it if they're enforced, which they appear to be?
Is this all because of "remain in Mexico" being in limbo?
Right, but that is an illogical argument. By that measure if the border patrol apprehended no one then that would indicate the border is the most secure it can possibly be.
Similarly, that would mean in any city when the cops got better at catching criminals it would indicate the crime rate went up. It's transparently stupid.
nakedfrog
No Lifer
- Apr 3, 2001
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dank69
Lifer
- Oct 6, 2009
- 37,334
- 32,931
- 136
Yeah we don't need to change anything we just need the government to enforce existing laws apparently.
UNCjigga
Lifer
- Dec 12, 2000
- 25,560
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“We don’t need border control—just enforce the laws already on the books!!”
Why does that sound…familiar?
Why does that sound…familiar?
cytg111
Lifer
- Mar 17, 2008
- 26,101
- 15,551
- 136
A great many places
2 men sentenced to years in prison for fraudulent border wall fundraiser tied to Steve Bannon
Brian Kolfage and Andrew Badolato previously pleaded guilty to several federal crimes related to siphoning funds from the online fundraising scheme.
www.cbsnews.com
ch33zw1z
Lifer
- Nov 4, 2004
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- 20,322
- 146
GOP Governors Invoke the Confederate Theory of Secession to Justify Border Violations
We have been here before. It does not end well.
Should be a fun time
FelixDeCat
Lifer
- Aug 4, 2000
- 30,976
- 2,677
- 126
People trans across the border daily, its just that millions never go back home. We want them to trans back across and apply for citizenship or asylum in their country of origin.
ch33zw1z
Lifer
- Nov 4, 2004
- 39,747
- 20,322
- 146
ivwshane
Lifer
- May 15, 2000
- 33,494
- 16,972
- 136
- Feb 6, 2002
- 39,276
- 32,769
- 136
To show people on the right don’t really care about immigration reform.
Just as many if not more people get into this country illegally by Visa overstays yet they never mention it
Just as many if not more people get into this country illegally by Visa overstays yet they never mention it
So what are you willing to give up in exchange for changing the law to make it that way?
Indus
Lifer
- May 11, 2002
- 15,944
- 11,103
- 136
Because they were vetted originally and likely had financial means to support themselves rather than ending up public charges.
You won't believe how strict the visa process actually is.. it's not easy to get a visa, so they tend to make headlines of the ones that cheat the visa system and ignore border laws.
Best way to think of it is as breaking and entering vs overstaying and not paying the rent (needing an eviction).
So then it’s not really about the law, just as he said.
Regardless, most visa overstays are from tourist visas, which are not at all difficult to get.
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