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K1052

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Republicans: We will only agree to HR2 because that's the needed immigration law change.

Also Republicans: We will agree to no deal whatsoever because existing law doesn't need to be changed.
 

fskimospy

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Republicans: We will only agree to HR2 because that's the needed immigration law change.

Also Republicans: We will agree to no deal whatsoever because existing law doesn't need to be changed.
If I’m not mistaken Johnson said they would only consider changes to immigration law when republicans control all three elected bodies of government.

So basically ‘this is a crisis that we have no interest in resolving until some unspecified point in the future, one that could be decades away.’
 
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K1052

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If I’m not mistaken Johnson said they would only consider changes to immigration law when republicans control all three elected bodies of government.

So basically ‘this is a crisis that we have no interest in resolving until some unspecified point in the future, one that could be decades away.’

And they even had that for two years with the same guy who is now promising a "perfect" immigration bill after every attempt at passing legislation under his administration imploded spectacularly.
 

fskimospy

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And they even had that for two years with the same guy who is now promising a "perfect" immigration bill after every attempt at passing legislation under his administration imploded spectacularly.
It’s just like how after each time they control the government they claim they ‘lost their way’ on fiscal restraint, only to blow up the deficit with tax cuts for the rich each time.
 
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NWRMidnight

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If I’m not mistaken Johnson said they would only consider changes to immigration law when republicans control all three elected bodies of government.

So basically ‘this is a crisis that we have no interest in resolving until some unspecified point in the future, one that could be decades away.’
Except if that was factual, why didn't they take care of it with the last administration when they did have control of all 3 branches from 2017 to 2019? What that tells me is Johnson is lying his ass off.
 

MrSquished

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"Current immigration law is fine" from the people who scream loudest about illegal immigration certainly is something I wasn't expecting to see.
Oh those people are irredeemable so of course it's expected.
 

K1052

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Except if that was factual, why didn't they take care of it with the last administration when they did have control of all 3 branches from 2017 to 2019? What that tells me is Johnson is lying his ass off.

He literally changed his demand overnight from "nothing but HR2 which is what we need" to "we don't need any new laws" because Trump told him to.
 
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Indus

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Lankford got censured today by the Oklahoma Republicans for "negotiating".

I don't know how much proof you need that the Republican party isn't the same anymore.

The Trump Terrorism party: Unless Orange gets what he wants.. blow everything up!
 

K1052

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Lankford got censured today by the Oklahoma Republicans for "negotiating".

I don't know how much proof you need that the Republican party isn't the same anymore.

The Trump Terrorism party: Unless Orange gets what he wants.. blow everything up!

Actually this part is pretty much the same. The far right has blown up every immigration deal for the last 20 years and the rest of the GOP has let them.

The main difference now is that even people inside the party, and Trump himself, are explicitly saying it is for political gain into tv cameras. I think the potential problem is that this is a play to the base instead of the people in the middle they need to convince they are serious.
 

trenchfoot

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He literally changed his demand overnight from "nothing but HR2 which is what we need" to "we don't need any new laws" because Trump told him to.


There's nothing holding back the Republicans from flipping and flopping around on any issue at any given moment in time, from being unabashedly hypocritical, from lying their asses off about anything that bothers them because they abandoned their ideology, their ethics and their morals back in 2016 when they elected one the most if not the most criminally minded useful idiot they could ever hope for.

They've been busy defending his incompetence, his treasonous anti-democratic fascist agenda and his penchant for turning the White House into a Whore House where his ass was for sale to the highest bidders so long as they stroked his phallic ego and sucked his cellulite puckered ass.

You simply can't possibly defend Trump without being hypocritical, without being serial liars to provide cover for their Serial Liar in Chief because being honest, factual and truthful about Trump is to admit the fact that he is at least the worst possible person to lead the nation and at most a clear and present danger to the nation he wants to take over as a racist dictator of whom our history books have already taught us will only lead to our downfall.
 

FelixDeCat

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So what are you willing to give up in exchange for changing the law to make it that way?
We should not have to compromise. We are being invaded. This calls for physically stopping people from illegal entry and removing those who are here without permission.

Only Greg Abbot gets it and he has done wonders to stem the tide. Abbot is so effective in fact, Brandon has done everything to thwart his successful efforts because it just goes to show you how bad his policy of "catch and release" is.
 

Indus

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We should not have to compromise. We are being invaded. This calls for physically stopping people from illegal entry and removing those who are here without permission.

Only Greg Abbot gets it and he has done wonders to stem the tide. Abbot is so effective in fact, Brandon has done everything to thwart his successful efforts because it just goes to show you how bad his policy of "catch and release" is.

If you want an easy fix, why don't you just go into Mexico and shoot em all?

Totally solves murder on American soil and illegal immigration problem.

And if you want to argue on the basis of facts, there's 2 factual problems with your statement.

1 - Illegal aliens who are here have no pathway to citizenship what so ever. I've actually known a few who thought they were going to get green cards via marriage.. showed up at 26 Federal Plaza and were deported.

2 - Those who are actually let in surrendered to authorities for an Asylum claim but are in the backlog.. so technically they're in limbo, neither illegal, nor legal.. just asylum case pending!

I think I told you of a friend's story.. his parents immigrated legally but his case file got lost and he had to wait 21 years to get his green card.. it's not a made up lie for dramatic effect.

Parents green card 1986. Parents citizenship 1992. But Kid's green card 2007 and kid's citizenship 2013! (that's how long the actual backlog is due to the archaic immigration system and visa queues)
 

eelw

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We should not have to compromise. We are being invaded. This calls for physically stopping people from illegal entry and removing those who are here without permission.

Only Greg Abbot gets it and he has done wonders to stem the tide. Abbot is so effective in fact, Brandon has done everything to thwart his successful efforts because it just goes to show you how bad his policy of "catch and release" is.
Sigh. They aren’t illegal when they are presenting themselves at border crossings and asking for asylum. And the Biden administration is catching actual illegal crossings and deporting them at higher rates that your orange monkey king.
 

ch33zw1z

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We should not have to compromise. We are being invaded. This calls for physically stopping people from illegal entry and removing those who are here without permission.

Only Greg Abbot gets it and he has done wonders to stem the tide. Abbot is so effective in fact, Brandon has done everything to thwart his successful efforts because it just goes to show you how bad his policy of "catch and release" is.

You must be high again.
 

fskimospy

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We should not have to compromise. We are being invaded. This calls for physically stopping people from illegal entry and removing those who are here without permission.

Only Greg Abbot gets it and he has done wonders to stem the tide. Abbot is so effective in fact, Brandon has done everything to thwart his successful efforts because it just goes to show you how bad his policy of "catch and release" is.
Well too bad then. If you aren’t willing to compromise then you get nothing.
 

FelixDeCat

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If you want an easy fix, why don't you just go into Mexico and shoot em all?

Totally solves murder on American soil and illegal immigration problem.

And if you want to argue on the basis of facts, there's 2 factual problems with your statement.

1 - Illegal aliens who are here have no pathway to citizenship what so ever. I've actually known a few who thought they were going to get green cards via marriage.. showed up at 26 Federal Plaza and were deported.

2 - Those who are actually let in surrendered to authorities for an Asylum claim but are in the backlog.. so technically they're in limbo, neither illegal, nor legal.. just asylum case pending!

I think I told you of a friend's story.. his parents immigrated legally but his case file got lost and he had to wait 21 years to get his green card.. it's not a made up lie for dramatic effect.

Parents green card 1986. Parents citizenship 1992. But Kid's green card 2007 and kid's citizenship 2013! (that's how long the actual backlog is due to the archaic immigration system and visa queues)
No one is talking about killing people just deporting them. Republicans are the party of law and order.

Law

&

Order.
 

MrSquished

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We should not have to compromise. We are being invaded. This calls for physically stopping people from illegal entry and removing those who are here without permission.

Only Greg Abbot gets it and he has done wonders to stem the tide. Abbot is so effective in fact, Brandon has done everything to thwart his successful efforts because it just goes to show you how bad his policy of "catch and release" is.

So if those people are invading, And your shithead Governor is sending them to other states, sounds like he's a traitor. Why would you send enemy combatants to other states to help them spread their invasion. That's treason.

And your scumbag Governor is a traitor to all things that are decent, and so are you. I clean up my cat litter and look at the little poops and I think to myself, look it's Felix's soul.

I know you are a piece of shit and I know he is a piece of shit, So of course you agree.
 

fskimospy

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No one is talking about killing people just deporting them. Republicans are the party of law and order.

Law

&

Order.
Republicans say the only thing stopping them from killing migrants is that the Feds would stop them.
 

Indus

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Republicans are the party of law and order.

Law

&

Order.

Overthrowing the results of an election by force.
Trying to kidnap governors.
Bribing people to stay quiet.
Sexually assaulting people.
Pedophilia.

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You need to be in a padded cell forever!
 

MrSquished

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Overthrowing the results of an election by force.
Trying to kidnap governors.
Bribing people to stay quiet.
Sexually assaulting people.
Pedophilia.

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You need to be in a padded cell forever!
And now literally sending invaders to other states. Total traitors.

Secede already. Just promise to take Florida, the entire deep south and half the Midwest with you. Don't let the door hit you on the way out scumbags.
 
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HomerJS

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We should not have to compromise. We are being invaded. This calls for physically stopping people from illegal entry and removing those who are here without permission.

Only Greg Abbot gets it and he has done wonders to stem the tide. Abbot is so effective in fact, Brandon has done everything to thwart his successful efforts because it just goes to show you how bad his policy of "catch and release" is.
Because in divided government that’s what you do to get things done.

Maybe if your boy got Mexico to shell out a few more pesos for that wall that was never finished, problem solved right.

The greatest wall built by mankind didn’t stop people from eventually getting through.
 

FelixDeCat

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Overthrowing the results of an election by force.
Trying to kidnap governors.
Bribing people to stay quiet.
Sexually assaulting people.
Pedophilia.

You need to be in a padded cell forever!

You are the one who made the first ridiculous statement and now you are doubling down.

Lets make an all inclusive list for Democrats:

Slavery
Jim Crow
Hillary selling our uranium supply to the Russians
Hunter taking bribes from corrupt Ukranians

And pedophilia? How about noted democrat Jeffrey Epstein?
 
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HomerJS

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You are the one who made the first ridiculous statement and now you are doubling down.

Lets make an all inclusive list for Democrats:

Slavery
Jim Crow
Hillary selling our uranium supply to the Russians
Hunter taking bribes from corrupt Ukranians

And pedophilia? How about noted democrat Jeffrey Epstein?
Might want to rethink that JE brag
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