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Trump administration seen as more truthful than news media

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Just for the record, I appreciate your posts. We might completely disagree on a lot of things, but your posts are still informative and thought through.

woolfe9998 said:
I agree with this to a point. The media is a corporate business, and as such, it will adapt to cultural change to the extent that such change affects its business model. The emergence of Fox News is an example of this trend. It plays to an audience of conservatives who have convinced themselves that the rest of the media is against them, and so long as it remains the only game in town for conservative biased mainstream network media, it will do well with that model.
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The reason fox was able to position itself as the go-to station for conservatives is because just about every other news outlet leans to the left (the degree of the lean varies). Like you said, they were essentially the only game in town if you don't want your news with a liberal slant. If most of the media didn't lean to the left, fox would not have been able to set themselves apart by being the only non-left-leaning outlet.

It used to be that the news branches of major networks were to some extent given a pass and allowed to lose a little money, on the theory that the news component brought some prestige to the network. However, with so much competition right now, first from the emergence of cable news then the internet, news media is hemorrhaging and they have to compensate by being increasingly sensationalistic. What they're not doing is compensating by being increasingly liberal, because this approach limits their market.
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I don't think they're "increasingly liberal", they've always been liberal. They've grown increasingly willing to play loose with the truth in their attempt to survive in the new reality. They've always been liberal, but their prestige as a legitimate news provider had great value so they didn't go overboard and had to at least appear to be unbiased. Now that the prestige of being a "legit" news source is rapidly losing it's value because of the internet etc, formerly "legit" places are trading the prestige of being an accurate legitimate source for the profits of being a sensationalist outlet pushing a political narrative. Kind of like Microsoft changing their business model from "making money from selling software / OS" to "give away the OS for free and monetize the information you glean from the users".

I know you think the media's coverage of Trump shows a liberal bias, but Trump is a walking controversy. He's been a huge ratings boon for all the news media. If you don't want to see so much negative coverage of a republican candidate, then don't nominate a vain reality TV star with a penchant for lying and offending all sorts of people. If you choose to nominate that sort of candidate, then expect the news media to cover the ensuing controversies quite gleefully. It was nowhere near this when Romney ran in 2012 and the news media certainly hasn't changed much in just 4 years.
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You don't have to tell me Trump is lousy. I've always been on record as not liking him as a candidate. The media had a much easier time going after Trump because he has so much baggage and is generally a douche. They were just as heavily biased against Romney, he was just not as juicy of a target. Trump just beat them at their own game by using their penchant for going after him as a positive weapon for his campaign.
 
OrByte said:
It is funny you posting in a thread and discussing trust.
I don't trust you.

You aren't American. You are posting solely to create discord amongst americans. You are a professional troll.
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You're an idiot, the fact that I disagree with the far left in this country and ridicule it, is a feature of the 1st Amendment, not a negative. Why would you think i'm not an American? It's probably just a dig, but i'm curious why you'd assume it?
 
imported_tajmahal said:
You're an idiot, the fact that I disagree with the far left in this country and ridicule it, is a feature of the 1st Amendment, not a negative. Why would you think i'm not an American? It's probably just a dig, but i'm curious why you'd assume it?
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maybe because you hate america
why do you hate america tajjy? your posts are so indicative of a russian troll, it's very telling.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
You're an idiot, the fact that I disagree with the far left in this country and ridicule it, is a feature of the 1st Amendment, not a negative. Why would you think i'm not an American? It's probably just a dig, but i'm curious why you'd assume it?
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because your posts make no sense in sum total unless you hate everything that America stands for.

It is obvious in sum total of your post history.

you are a troll and no I don't trust you nor your motives on any/all of your posts.

I know I'm not alone.
 
OrByte said:
because your posts make no sense in sum total unless you hate everything that America stands for.

It is obvious in sum total of your post history.

you are a troll and no I don't trust you nor your motives on any/all of your posts.

I know I'm not alone.
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Hence why I've stopped even responding to anything he posts.
 
PokerGuy said:
You don't have to tell me Trump is lousy. I've always been on record as not liking him as a candidate.
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You've been more on record as ripping into Hillary & the Dems with gleeful abandon, not to mention beating the myth of the liberal media nearly to death.

It's the same malignant negativity nurtured by the mouthpieces of the Right Wing for decades. It's what made Trump as President into a reality.

Here it is, dumbshits.
 
Jhhnn said:
You've been more on record as ripping into Hillary & the Dems with gleeful abandon, not to mention beating the myth of the liberal media nearly to death.

It's the same malignant negativity nurtured by the mouthpieces of the Right Wing for decades. It's what made Trump as President into a reality.

Here it is, dumbshits.
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Hillary would have been much worse.
 
OrByte said:
because your posts make no sense in sum total unless you hate everything that America stands for.

It is obvious in sum total of your post history.

you are a troll and no I don't trust you nor your motives on any/all of your posts.

I know I'm not alone.
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I'm glad to know you're not alone. Just for the record i'm a US citizen, born in Los Angeles County from parents born in Omaha, Nebraska.
 
Jhhnn said:
You've been more on record as ripping into Hillary & the Dems with gleeful abandon, not to mention beating the myth of the liberal media nearly to death.

It's the same malignant negativity nurtured by the mouthpieces of the Right Wing for decades. It's what made Trump as President into a reality.

Here it is, dumbsh*ts.
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lol, I think you're forgetting that while I'm on record saying I never liked Trump as a candidate and was never a Trump supporter, I've also repeatedly said that the alternative (illary and her cabal) would have been much worse. I'm perfectly happy with the outcome so far, thanks.
 
PokerGuy said:
http://www.thehill.com/homenews/media/318514-trump-admin-seen-as-more-truthful-than-news-media-poll

Kind of funny. How far has media credibility fallen? Well, apparently now it's even lower than Trump's credibility, which is saying something. With formerly respectable (if biased) organizations like CNN going all-out fake news / tabloid, I guess this is not surprising.
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This is absolutely trivial to understand. Pretty much all conservative are ideologically obligated to pronounce trump as truthful no matter what, while some liberals might believe the media isn't truthful.

Now watch the dipshits try their best to pretend how hard this is to grasp.
 
agent00f said:
This is absolutely trivial to understand. Pretty much all conservative are ideologically obligated to pronounce trump as truthful no matter what, while some liberals might believe the media isn't truthful.

Now watch the dipshits try their best to pretend how hard this is to grasp.
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They've been led to believe in a lot of things that aren't true & to have shitty negative attitudes with decades of right wing propaganda. Trump never would have been elected if that weren't true.

Repubs built it & it has served them well in the top down class warfare their ideology enables quite by design. Trump saw the monster they've created better than they did, threw it all the red meat it ever wanted during the campaign. He took it to a higher level than they'd ever dared, and won.
 
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