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Lifer
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soundforbjt
Lifer
- Feb 15, 2002
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Yep, cherry pick the only poll that shows him barely above 50%, rasmussen always leans right.
Just for the record, I appreciate your posts. We might completely disagree on a lot of things, but your posts are still informative and thought through.
The reason fox was able to position itself as the go-to station for conservatives is because just about every other news outlet leans to the left (the degree of the lean varies). Like you said, they were essentially the only game in town if you don't want your news with a liberal slant. If most of the media didn't lean to the left, fox would not have been able to set themselves apart by being the only non-left-leaning outlet.
I don't think they're "increasingly liberal", they've always been liberal. They've grown increasingly willing to play loose with the truth in their attempt to survive in the new reality. They've always been liberal, but their prestige as a legitimate news provider had great value so they didn't go overboard and had to at least appear to be unbiased. Now that the prestige of being a "legit" news source is rapidly losing it's value because of the internet etc, formerly "legit" places are trading the prestige of being an accurate legitimate source for the profits of being a sensationalist outlet pushing a political narrative. Kind of like Microsoft changing their business model from "making money from selling software / OS" to "give away the OS for free and monetize the information you glean from the users".
You don't have to tell me Trump is lousy. I've always been on record as not liking him as a candidate. The media had a much easier time going after Trump because he has so much baggage and is generally a douche. They were just as heavily biased against Romney, he was just not as juicy of a target. Trump just beat them at their own game by using their penchant for going after him as a positive weapon for his campaign.
The reason fox was able to position itself as the go-to station for conservatives is because just about every other news outlet leans to the left (the degree of the lean varies). Like you said, they were essentially the only game in town if you don't want your news with a liberal slant. If most of the media didn't lean to the left, fox would not have been able to set themselves apart by being the only non-left-leaning outlet.
I don't think they're "increasingly liberal", they've always been liberal. They've grown increasingly willing to play loose with the truth in their attempt to survive in the new reality. They've always been liberal, but their prestige as a legitimate news provider had great value so they didn't go overboard and had to at least appear to be unbiased. Now that the prestige of being a "legit" news source is rapidly losing it's value because of the internet etc, formerly "legit" places are trading the prestige of being an accurate legitimate source for the profits of being a sensationalist outlet pushing a political narrative. Kind of like Microsoft changing their business model from "making money from selling software / OS" to "give away the OS for free and monetize the information you glean from the users".
You don't have to tell me Trump is lousy. I've always been on record as not liking him as a candidate. The media had a much easier time going after Trump because he has so much baggage and is generally a douche. They were just as heavily biased against Romney, he was just not as juicy of a target. Trump just beat them at their own game by using their penchant for going after him as a positive weapon for his campaign.
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
- Jul 9, 2009
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You're an idiot, the fact that I disagree with the far left in this country and ridicule it, is a feature of the 1st Amendment, not a negative. Why would you think i'm not an American? It's probably just a dig, but i'm curious why you'd assume it?
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
- Feb 16, 2005
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maybe because you hate america
why do you hate america tajjy? your posts are so indicative of a russian troll, it's very telling.
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
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Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
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a funny joke or an implied joke? that's a pretty broad description. And such a vindictive and spiteful little russian troll you are.
OrByte
Diamond Member
- Jul 21, 2000
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because your posts make no sense in sum total unless you hate everything that America stands for.
It is obvious in sum total of your post history.
you are a troll and no I don't trust you nor your motives on any/all of your posts.
I know I'm not alone.
nakedfrog
No Lifer
- Apr 3, 2001
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You've been more on record as ripping into Hillary & the Dems with gleeful abandon, not to mention beating the myth of the liberal media nearly to death.
It's the same malignant negativity nurtured by the mouthpieces of the Right Wing for decades. It's what made Trump as President into a reality.
Here it is, dumbshits.
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
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imported_tajmahal
Lifer
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I'm glad to know you're not alone. Just for the record i'm a US citizen, born in Los Angeles County from parents born in Omaha, Nebraska.
lol, I think you're forgetting that while I'm on record saying I never liked Trump as a candidate and was never a Trump supporter, I've also repeatedly said that the alternative (illary and her cabal) would have been much worse. I'm perfectly happy with the outcome so far, thanks.
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
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zinfamous
No Lifer
- Jul 12, 2006
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Who said "shoot some one on Main Street and get away with it?" Cum'on give a guess!
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
- Jul 9, 2009
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No one said that except you. If you're going to use quotation marks it really needs to be a quote and not something you made up.
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
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right because the implication behind that somewhat inaccurate quote was totally vague. how fucking deluded are you troll-boy?
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
- Jul 9, 2009
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Schooling the ignorant is not being a troll, maybe you can correct the quotation.
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
- Feb 16, 2005
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you? schooling? nah. That is not happening, except maybe in your mind. LOL.. schooling the ignorant..
This is absolutely trivial to understand. Pretty much all conservative are ideologically obligated to pronounce trump as truthful no matter what, while some liberals might believe the media isn't truthful.
Now watch the dipshits try their best to pretend how hard this is to grasp.
They've been led to believe in a lot of things that aren't true & to have shitty negative attitudes with decades of right wing propaganda. Trump never would have been elected if that weren't true.
Repubs built it & it has served them well in the top down class warfare their ideology enables quite by design. Trump saw the monster they've created better than they did, threw it all the red meat it ever wanted during the campaign. He took it to a higher level than they'd ever dared, and won.
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
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