Trump’s Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

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Lifer
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I'm thinking more along the lines of a phone call (hopefully cell therefore a record) or a text. Even the Trumps were versed enough in the concept of plausible deniability so as to never forward to His Donaldship the actual email.

I think it is more likely that the emails were not forwarded to The Donald because The Donald doesn't read emails. I'm almost certain that he is the sort of person that has his secretary print his emails out for him, and he 'reads' along as she reads them out loud to him.
 

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I think it is more likely that the emails were not forwarded to The Donald because The Donald doesn't read emails. I'm almost certain that he is the sort of person that has his secretary print his emails out for him, and he 'reads' along as she reads them out loud to him.

Its been reported (before the election) that trump not only didn't use email but that he also didn't use a computer. All contact with him would have to be via phone or in person and I'm sure its no coincidence that a meeting between his top aides and a Russian with damaging Clinton info happened several floors away from the Donald.

Trump being impeached or being disgraced isn't a big deal for trump, he'll still have his business and his money. Now if Mueller finds some info about trumps financial dealings, things like violating the foreign corrupt practices act which could have some real consequences, well then he might be a little concerned.
 

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I believe the story leaked from inside the current investigation. Doesn't make sense for any of the 3 campaign members to leak it. Puts all of them in legal jeopardy. Outside chance the russkies did it, but unlikely. Slim chance someone else in admin, but they weren't in the meeting or on the emails. Logical choice is SIGINT that's been collected from one of the participants.
 
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Next phase.

That liberal rag WSJ says that talking to Russians will get you caught on tape talking to Russians without you actually being under surveillance. Turns out the Russians you talk to were though.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia...p-associates-before-campaign-began-1499890354

Foreign Policy also has some concerns:
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/12...-case-involving-lawyer-who-met-with-trump-jr/

Fake news, Liberal media, anonymous sources and "stuff"
 
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Lifer
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if someone back in the '80s had told me that one day the Russians would be seriously accused by much of the US establishment of interfering with their elections, and getting their favoured candidate into the Presidency, I really don't think this is what I would have envisaged.
 

Jhhnn

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It's an effective strategy that has been perfected by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity - Discredit facts, create conspiracy theories and flat out lie to move your agenda forward... These clowns may not have known the beast they have created, a population of ignorant, paranoid, reality TV soaked robots.... That respond to the irrational ramblings of sociopaths.

For the insincere sociopaths at the top of the Repub party it's like the old Monty Python skit- "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition". They sure as Hell didn't expect Trump.

One of my fave cartoons from 2016-

http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/Horsey_Tribune_5.jpg?resize=807x807
 
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emperus

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I believe the story leaked from inside the current investigation. Doesn't make sense for any of the 3 campaign members to leak it. Puts all of them in legal jeopardy. Outside chance the russkies did it, but unlikely. Slim chance someone else in admin, but they weren't in the meeting or on the emails. Logical choice is SIGINT that's been collected from one of the participants.

All reporting says it was leaked from inside the Trump Admin (Senior Advisers). People are speculating multiple reasons (more damaging info to come, Jr. being the scapegoat, protecting Kushner,, etc, etc,)
 

jackstar7

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if someone back in the '80s had told me that one day the Russians would be seriously accused by much of the US establishment of interfering with their elections, and getting their favoured candidate into the Presidency, I really don't think this is what I would have envisaged.
I also expected more of a Dolph Lundgren type.
 

jackstar7

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If I were to guess in the 80s I would have described a Bernie Sanders type
Doesn't convey the strength needed to win people over. Bullies were still quite en vogue in those days. Physical strength was the end-all.

As we found out though, now you just need words and to never back them up.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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FNN? C'mon man.

There is one aspect to most of this news of late: lots of sizzle and very little steak.

So far.

But this is clearly only getting started.

I think the SF86 is still going to be a key part of this whole thing. I've thought so from the moment it came to light that Kushner lied on it. Felonies should be taken seriously, especially for the Tobias Funke's of this dysfunctional family.

Coincidentally... Tobias was the one recruited to be a mole.
 

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All reporting says it was leaked from inside the Trump Admin (Senior Advisers). People are speculating multiple reasons (more damaging info to come, Jr. being the scapegoat, protecting Kushner,, etc, etc,)

How does potentially implicating Kushner in a crime protect Kushner though? Serious question, I don't understand how this helps him.
 

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jackstar7

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This is pretty golden:
https://twitter.com/tinyrevolution/status/884916279655751680

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kage69

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If you want to know why the resident Trump cheerleaders think there's nothing wrong with Trump Jr.'s emails, here's one reason why: Fox News deliberately omitted the mentions of Russian government in its excerpts.

That's one of the most frustrating things about the Trump administration. It's not just the rampant corruption and lying from the administration and the Trump family -- it's that Fox's response to this is to double down on its falsehoods. For example, lies by omission like this. CNN and other outlets may make mistakes, but they don't deliberately hide facts to create a false narrative.

So true.

Fox is now back to being the unofficial propaganda outlet and prostate masseuse for the White House. It seems more desperate this time around compared to 2000-2008. They have a lot less to work with and they know it. Watch Krauthammer get retired.
 
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Steele Dossier is becoming increasingly accurate as things that can be confirmed are confirmed.

Countdown to pee tape "leaking"?

Come on, Trumpettes! Comedy!
 

jackstar7

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this deserves a thread of its own, and let's all welcome Jeffrey Beauregard Sessions back to the middle of Russiagate.
Make it so.

I'm just enjoying the ride in this thread.

Note as Trumpettes participate less and less as we go...
 

emperus

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How does potentially implicating Kushner in a crime protect Kushner though? Serious question, I don't understand how this helps him.

Maybe making Don Jr. the lead in all of this and Kushner just somehow got caught up in it. Not sure. Heard that theory on all places Fox News. But, with all the people looped into the email and the Full weight of the FBI bearing down on this, this email was probably coming out.

From the NY times:
The emails were discovered in recent weeks by Mr. Kushner’s legal team as it reviewed documents, and the team amended his clearance forms to disclose it, according to people briefed on the developments, who like others declined to be identified because of the sensitive political and legal issues involved.
 

Jhhnn

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I do love the current rationale- "We went for the collusion but the Russians didn't give us anything, so it's not collusion..."

Sweet freaking Jebsu...