Tressfx: A new frontier of realism in pc gaming

[sontin]

Like Forward+ on a nVidia card.
So, what's the point?

 

[Lonbjerg]

And it runs like ass, so what's the point?

Compared to what?
You got benchmarks or did you just invent a "fantasy fact"? ^^

 

[Greenlepricon]

And it runs like ass, so what's the point?

Easily the best way to emulate a cpu bottleneck if you want to know how that feels.

Which is why I'm looking forward to tressfx. I'm hoping it doesn't produce the same lag that trying to run physx can, but guess we have to wait and see for that one.

 

[notty22]

TressFX is not free for DX9 cards. Now , there are not many left out there(dx9,10.1), but they are there. AMD is down on market share? Are 100% of those dx11? or capable of running dx11 fast enough to be playable. A real problem with first generation dx11 cards of even the highest tier. I'm pretty sure, some gamers still choose the less intensive .exe in some cases.
But I guess, if you have a o/c 7950 or better, which is the only AMD card some seem to think exist, then I guess you can run dx11 and all it's features!

edit: Can't use those numbers for cards in the field. I was using a card shipped %

 

[blackened23]

PhysX is free for everyone, too. If you want to play with it, activate it. It runs on every x86 cpu out there.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, you can't use physx GPU particle acceleration without an nvidia card + drivers installed. You can't use physx in batman: AC without an nvidia card.

Again, you should differentiate between particle effects and a general physics API. They are far different.

 

[blackened23]

TressFX is not free for DX9 cards. Now , there are not many left out there(dx9,10.1), but they are there. AMD is down on market share? Are 100% of those dx11? or capable of running dx11 fast enough to be playable. A real problem with first generation dx11 cards of even the highest tier. I'm pretty sure, some gamers still choose the less intensive .exe in some cases.
But I guess, if you have a o/c 7950 or better, which is the only AMD card some seem to think exist, then I guess you can run dx11 and all it's features!
edit: Can't use those numbers for cards in the field. I was using a card shipped %

Nice, you should start talking pseudo armchair financial analysis information as well. Maybe stock analysis. Then your post would be complete.

 

[Erenhardt]

PhysX is free for everyone, too. If you want to play with it, activate it. It runs on every x86 cpu out there.

Yea. And you can live eating only glucose and water. What did you have for a dinner? Or...
When it is very hot and you want a little breeze you can run as fast as you can. Moving air will cool your sweat empty head!

 

[Lonbjerg]

Yea. And you can live eating only glucose and water. What did you have for a dinner? Or...
When it is very hot and you want a little breeze you can run as fast as you can. Moving air will cool your sweat empty head!

So your "diet" is hair.
My diet is hair, cloth, fluids, particles, smoke and a hole bunch more.

And you think I am the one on the "bad nutrition diet"?

LOL

 

[Erenhardt]

So your "diet" is hair.
My diet is hair, cloth, fluids, particles, smoke and a hole bunch more.

And you think I am the one on the "bad nutrition diet"?

LOL

I know where you take most of your nutritions!
Don't feed that troll any more, he is getting fat!

 

[Lonbjerg]

I know where you take most of your nutritions!
Don't feed that troll any more, he is getting fat!

Nice red herring...care to answer the question? ^^

 

[Grooveriding]

Some serious posterior pain over AMD's uber TressFX Need to pass out a couple pillows to sit on imo.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Honestly, the amount of retardation in this thread is mind boggling. Half the nvidia cheerleaders don't even realize that direct compute is part of DX11 API's and not something owned by AMD. They are blaming AMD for gimping Nvidia's performance with DirectCompute. What a bunch of smart individuals.

 

[Dravonic]

I'm hoping [TressFX] doesn't produce the same lag that trying to run physx can, but guess we have to wait and see for that one.

...capable of running dx11 fast enough to be playable.

This is what we should be discussing here, but thanks to the very limited info released I guess I can't just put the blame on the fanboys flame-baiting each other for the lack of a relevant discussion in this thread.

How feasible is this? Is it a high-end hardware only thing? I must say it kinda feels like it when reading the blog post:

Graphics cards featuring the Graphics Core Next architecture, like select AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series, are particularly well-equipped to handle these types of tasks, with their combination of fast on-chip shared memory and massive processing throughput on the order of trillions of operations per second.

It might be just AMD plugging in their product, but I'm hoping this is actually accessible technology for mid-range+ systems.

 

[notty22]

Nice, you should start talking pseudo armchair financial analysis information as well. Maybe stock analysis. Then your post would be complete.

Are you over your 680sli hissy fit? What are you going on about financials for, you are edit.:ninja:

 

[Greenlepricon]

How feasible is this? Is it a high-end hardware only thing? I must say it kinda feels like it when reading the blog post:

It might be just AMD plugging in their product, but I'm hoping this is actually accessible technology for mid-range+ systems.

I think that they're definitely going to shoot for this on consoles. Maybe to a lesser degree than you can achieve on pc, but if they can squeeze this out it should hopefully be able to run on mid-range hardware. If I have to choose between this and AA, then, well... guess I'll have to see how good that hair looks

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I think that they're definitely going to shoot for this on consoles. Maybe to a lesser degree than you can achieve on pc, but if they can squeeze this out it should hopefully be able to run on mid-range hardware. If I have to choose between this and AA, then, well... guess I'll have to see how good that hair looks

Another piece of news that came out at the same time as the TressFX announcement was that the PS4 is set to use Havok GPU accelerated physics for all titles from licensed developers. That's the reason why I said PhysX is dead if Nvidia continues to wall it off from competitor hardware. Not because of TressFX.

http://www.havok.com/news-and-press...echnology-showcased-playstation®-meeting-2013

 

[Greenlepricon]

Another piece of news that came out at the same time as the TressFX announcement was that the PS4 is set to use Havok GPU accelerated physics for all titles from licensed developers. That's the reason why I said PhysX is dead if Nvidia continues to wall it off from competitor hardware. Not because of TressFX.

http://www.havok.com/news-and-press...echnology-showcased-playstation®-meeting-2013

Oh wow don't know how I didn't notice this anywhere. That's definitely something else to look forward to seeing more of.

 

[notty22]

Another piece of news that came out at the same time as the TressFX announcement was that the PS4 is set to use Havok GPU accelerated physics for all titles from licensed developers. That's the reason why I said PhysX is dead if Nvidia continues to wall it off from competitor hardware. Not because of TressFX.

For all it's titles, that is NOT what your link states.

Havok has fully optimized its leading Tools and Middleware line‐up for PlayStation®4, which is now available to all licensed PlayStation®4 developers

Does not mean all will use it.

At the event Sony Computer Entertainment also showcased a number of Havok Physics powered games. - See more at: http://www.havok.com/news-and-press/releases/havoks-cutting-edge-physics-technology-showcased-playstation%C2%AE-meeting-2013#sthash.tC3smXeq.dpuf

That is not ALL>

 

[VulgarDisplay]

For all it's titles, that is NOT what your link states.

Does not mean all will use it.
That is not ALL>

Who cares, stop splitting TressFX over it. Long story short, PhsyX is going to be pushed out of development entirely if they don't get it to work with DirectCompute or OpenCL which is entirely possible.

 

[notty22]

Who cares, stop splitting TressFX over it. Long story short, PhsyX is going to be pushed out of development entirely if they don't get it to work with DirectCompute or OpenCL which is entirely possible.

Actually not a bad pun there. I still don't agree with your pro-longing flame wars. Let AMD develop this tech without drama or you or AMD ego building by gauging one's success on/only on another initiatives failure.

 

[parvadomus]

Who cares, stop splitting TressFX over it. Long story short, PhsyX is going to be pushed out of development entirely if they don't get it to work with DirectCompute or OpenCL which is entirely possible.

This. :biggrin:
Havok getting into GPU physics = PhysX death. But nvidia can rescue it, porting it to directcompute.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Actually not a bad pun there. I still don't agree with your pro-longing flame wars. Let AMD develop this tech without drama or you or AMD ego building by gauging one's success on/only on another initiatives failure.

WTF are you talking about... Pro longing flamewars? I'm the only person in here presenting any information about the topic. No flaming here whatsoever.

 

[BoFox]

AMD was evangelizing N patches and nVidia was evangelizing RT patches! The irony is both were collaborating with Havok and HavokFX for GPU physics and Intel swooped in!

How much growth for Nvidia, exactly, at the expense of a collaborated open source physics engine development that would have rendered Intel's Havok 90% worthless? Havok was not the only thing out there either, there was Ghostbuster: Video Game's Infernal Velocity engine that did wonders. Even HLSL, as grstanford stated over at ABT forum with 3DMark03 ( here is the video that he uploaded) .. did wonders for the hair back then!

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P.S. - Think about how much further it would have boosted both ATI and Nvidia as GPU companies back then, "wowing" so many more people so much more quickly through the decade? CPU would be less important, and GPU would have been like say, 30% more important back then.

 

[Lonbjerg]

Another piece of news that came out at the same time as the TressFX announcement was that the PS4 is set to use Havok GPU accelerated physics for all titles from licensed developers. That's the reason why I said PhysX is dead if Nvidia continues to wall it off from competitor hardware. Not because of TressFX.

http://www.havok.com/news-and-press/releases/havoks-cutting-edge-physics-technology-showcased-playstation%C2%AE-meeting-2013

It's also set to use Physx, stop the misinformation:
http://physxinfo.com/news/10531/nvi...tner-for-physics-middleware-on-playstation-4/

http://www.scei.co.jp/ps4_tm/index.html

Havok couldn't kill PhysX on x86 CPU's...now it will kill PhysX on GPU's...

LOL
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[notty22]

WTF are you talking about... Pro longing flamewars? I'm the only person in here presenting any information about the topic. No flaming here whatsoever.

Here's what I'm talking about tool. This is a example of your depth, are you waiting for someone to also call you out for being a liar? So you can put on a grandstand?

Honestly, the amount of retardation in this thread is mind boggling. Half the nvidia cheerleaders don't even realize that direct compute is part of DX11 API's and not something owned by AMD. They are blaming AMD for gimping Nvidia's performance with DirectCompute. What a bunch of smart individuals.